News Once a dickhead.....

[perverse]

What we need is the same as is happening in the United States of America.

We need Segregation

Blacks from Whites

Boys from Girls

These groups should never ever meet up.

That is the only way we are truly going to stop the problems of racism and sexism.

I mean, everyone that agrees with this idiots takes on the issue should have a good read of this and realise which team they're on, tbh. Even in jest this is just moronic, and I'm pretty sure there's more than a hint of sincerity in that.

 

[Perth Red]

Did you watch the whole interview or just sound bites?

yes I did and my comments are not related to his interview. Yes I saw the whole thing. I didn’t think it was particularly offensive and I enjoyed most of it compared to the usual boring ones, but I also understand why the nrl is reigning it in. My comments above is on the raised topic of if judging peoples language and having changing expectations is a good or bad thing for society.

 

[Valheru]

So you're speaking for all women now?

You certainly do get around.

No, quite the opposite, thus the reason for me asking the question.

Seems the answer is no thus far.

 

[Valheru]

You don't think society deciding it isnt ok to call coloured people N's, gay men puffs, women slappers, sluts, cockpits, all asians chinks etc etc is a good thing? Righto.

Language is a reflection of society values, it has always been controlled and policed. Nothing new its just that we are now finally starting to evolve our societies to call it out when racist's, homophobes, sexist pigs etc continue to use language that marginalises, harms or denigrates others. I wonder why people feel so threatened with the movement just to be kind to each other and respect each other? What is it in that is making you feel so insecure?

Gee you know how to go on a tangent.

Most of the examples you listed are outright bigotry and discrimination.

Rudolph made a harmless comment about having some schooners and trying to get laid. That is not discriminatory, marginalising, denigrating or disrespectful to anyone yet a small minority of SJWs have found some offence in there.

 

[franklin2323]

yes I did and my comments are not related to his interview. Yes I saw the whole thing. I didn’t think it was particularly offensive and I enjoyed most of it compared to the usual boring ones, but I also understand why the nrl is reigning it in. My comments above is on the raised topic of if judging peoples language and having changing expectations is a good or bad thing for society.

Compare it to this though. I am not for one minute saying what Lambie said was wrong either just trying to lighten up what would be a boring interview. Not once was an insult said yet people still complain

 

[Valheru]

Compare it to this though. I am not for one minute saying what Lambie said was wrong either just trying to lighten up what would be a boring interview. Not once was an insult said yet people still complain

It doesn't take a rocket scientists to work out what would happen if the gender roles were reversed on this one.

 

[nick87]

It's weird the extreme tangents some are taking this on.

Toby, next time maybe don't talk about 'pulling anything' at 8pm on national TV? Seems pretty reasonable & simple to me. What professional organization in the world wouldn't have that view? He got a warning not an astronomical fine or suspension.

It really is as simple and straight forward as this
I heard the interview and immediately knew he'd get a call from HQ to remind him of his responsibility to the game.

Some people losing their minds over PC this and cancel culture that need to take a deep breathe and f**king relax.

Toby isnt a bad guy, no one is saying he's a bad guy. He made an inappropriate joke, and the NRL has to make sure it's on record they dont condone that sort of thing and remind their players of their responsibility as employees of the clubs and code.

 

[NewySteel]

It really is as simple and straight forward as this
I heard the interview and immediately knew he'd get a call from HQ to remind him of his responsibility to the game.

Some people losing their minds over PC this and cancel culture that need to take a deep breathe and f**king relax.

Toby isnt a bad guy, no one is saying he's a bad guy. He made an inappropriate joke, and the NRL has to make sure it's on record they dont condone that sort of thing and remind their players of their responsibility as employees of the clubs and code.

/endthread

 

[Willow]

No, quite the opposite, thus the reason for me asking the question.

Seems the answer is no thus far.

You're suggesting that no women are offended because you haven't been provided with any examples from an NRL forum. I put it to you that your research methods are flawed.

 

[Silent Knight]

It really is as simple and straight forward as this
I heard the interview and immediately knew he'd get a call from HQ to remind him of his responsibility to the game.

Some people losing their minds over PC this and cancel culture that need to take a deep breathe and f**king relax.

Toby isnt a bad guy, no one is saying he's a bad guy. He made an inappropriate joke, and the NRL has to make sure it's on record they dont condone that sort of thing and remind their players of their responsibility as employees of the clubs and code.

Finally a voice of reason. We need more sane opinions like this one instead of the debate being hijacked by those who can shout the most.

 

[Willow]

Some people losing their minds over PC this and cancel culture that need to take a deep breathe and f**king relax.

Just curious, who are losing their minds over this? I mean, apart from those upset about Rudolf getting a warning from the NRL.

I remember when Mark Riddell, as part of his post match try celebration, jumping the fence and sitting in the seats to applaud himself. It's still laughed about some 20 years later. But I recall the NRL gave him a warning or notification of some sort. At the time I thought the NRL were being a bunch of spoilsports, taking themselves too seriously, surely Riddell meant no harm. But then I realised we really can't have players jumping the fence, so it will remain as a funny one-off.

Similar with Rudolf, except that it was more silly than funny. But like Riddell, he meant no harm. And he only got a tap on the shoulder because the NRL doesn't want players talking about drinking and rooting in front of a national audience.

 

[Valheru]

You're suggesting that no women are offended because you haven't been provided with any examples from an NRL forum. I put it to you that your research methods are flawed.

That's if you assume I have only asked on here.

 

[Willow]

That's if you assume I have only asked on here.

Oh in that case, please share your research with us all.

 

[Valheru]

Oh in that case, please share your research with us all.

I'm comfortable with the assumption the vast majority of women weren't offended by the interview. Namely because he didn't even mention women.

If you aren't then that's your problem.

 

[Willow]

I'm comfortable with the assumption the vast majority of women weren't offended by the interview. Namely because he didn't even mention women.

If you aren't then that's your problem.

Rightio, so you really don't know.

 

[nick87]

Just curious, who are losing their minds over this? I mean, apart from those upset about Rudolf getting a warning from the NRL.

As per the quote, I was directly that specifically at those upset about the warning carrying on about cancel culture all that nonsense

they just need to settle down and relax. The “warning” is not a big deal

 

[dogslife]

The NRL needs more Darius

 

[Willow]

As per the quote, I was directly that specifically at those upset about the warning carrying on about cancel culture all that nonsense

they just need to settle down and relax. The “warning” is not a big deal

I agree and I think we're on the same page there.

I just don't get all this accusations of PC gone mad, cancel culture and "ma freeze peach". You only have to scratch a little under the surface to see that people are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Some folks do go out of their way to be outraged, or are being told to be outraged.

 

[nick87]

I agree and I think we're on the same page there.

I just don't get all this accusations of PC gone mad, cancel culture and "ma freeze peach". You only have to scratch a little under the surface to see that people are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Some folks do go out of their way to be outraged, or are being told to be outraged.

No, i don't really understand it either
Frankly I've never understood the free speech stuff.

There is not a lack of free speech in this country, people can pretty much say whatever the hell they like. You're not going to be killed, or targeted by the state, or imprisoned for anything you say. That's free speech.

What is not promised and what is not a right is judgment and consequence free speech. Which is typically what these sorts of people you and I are talking are actually asking for. The ability to say whatever nonsense they like without there being consequences or criticism for it

Toby Rudolph has free speech, he can tell the inappropriate joke. However there are consequences, in this case an extremely mild one in a reminder of his contractual obligation to not make public remarks which go against the ethos of the organisation that employees him. Which fits the crime of making mildly inappropriate comments/telling a mildly inappropriate joke.

There really isn't a lot going on here. I was staggered this morning to find this discussion spanning 2-3 pages of a thread

 

[Rugged Rigid Robust Roy]

I mean, everyone that agrees with this idiots takes on the issue should have a good read of this and realise which team they're on, tbh. Even in jest this is just moronic, and I'm pretty sure there's more than a hint of sincerity in that.

pay attention, its you left wing soft wantabee identity politics progressives that want segregation!!!

If you are not going to keep up with the news and the views of your left wing leaders, then you aren't going to be able to spew out the latest cancel culture vile bs that your masters tell you to.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/498992-racial-segregation-us-universities/

Racial segregation at US universities is back, with the advent of black-only dormitories. Martin Luther King would be appalled
Racial segregation is a really bad idea. So it is not surprising that advocates of identity politics are demanding that black-only dormitories should be established on American campuses.

The cultivation of identity encourages the psychic distancing of people to the point some students demand to be allowed to share spaces with only those with whom they identify. That is really bad news for a democratic society.

As Martin Luther King pointed out in a speech in New York in 1956, during his long campaign to desegregate the education system and US society generally, “Segregation has always been evil, and only the misguided reactionary clothed in the thin garments of irrational emotionalism will seek to defend it. Segregation is both rationally inexplicable and morally unjustifiable.”

Throughout history, individuals who regarded themselves as progressive were fervent opponents of any form of racial or cultural segregation. That so-called progressives today support ‘voluntary segregation’ or ‘affinity housing’ indicates just how far removed they are from the ideals that inspired abolitionists and supporters of civil rights throughout the centuries.

The divisive impulses that drive the politicization of identity is no less dangerous than their authoritarian equivalents in the past.