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When free speech becomes denied speech it will find another outlet, as in Russia and now China. People will think and talk and speak to each other, only its visibility is under attack. Owning a controlled propaganda ridden media is not a ‘win’ or the end of speech, only a sign free speech has moved elsewhere, taking virtue and honest expression of real people elsewhere, like here. This forum is what ‘free speech’ looks like.
 

betcats

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When free speech becomes denied speech it will find another outlet, as in Russia and now China. People will think and talk and speak to each other, only its visibility is under attack. Owning a controlled propaganda ridden media is not a ‘win’ or the end of speech, only a sign free speech has moved elsewhere, taking virtue and honest expression of real people elsewhere, like here. This forum is what ‘free speech’ looks like.

Someone send this merkin to the gulag.
 
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freedom of speech is needed for freedom of the mind. As the great scholar Matty Johns noted, “the advancement of truth, science, morality, and arts in general” depend upon freedom of the press and speech.

Fletch has the same opinion after last Monday night.


For all the left wingers who don't like the mirror pointed at them.

did you see the disgusting attack today by GET UP on Nicolle Flint.
 
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Down with this sort of thing


Too true, As big Brian Fletcher said after Monday nights fiasco - and I quote him

"identity politics threatens to undermine political liberty and to undo these habits of mind and character by demanding bans on so-called “hate speech.” Identity politics is a winner-takes-all ideology, pitting the victimized or marginalizedwho demand liberation, celebration, and equal self-respectagainst the so-called oppressor group, which, in the Rugby League world's context, is defined explicitly as men. The oppressor identity must be condemned, punished, and silenced. There is no place in this view for civic accommodation or reconciliation."

This could be another chance for Rugby League to save the World!!"
 

franklin2323

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Should we get rid of libel laws as well and just let everyone say whatever they like? Maybe get rid of trespass laws as well, after all freedom of movement is equally important isnt it? I know lets get rid of all criminal laws so everyone is totally free to do whatever they want with no consequence. You need to form a party, the 'anarchists rule the world' party might be a good name?

Do you want boring robots out there? Someone appears on a light hearted show.

Doesn't swear
Doesn't abuse anyone
Doesn't insult anyone

Cracks a joke and gets warned. Not sure what the game wants with the players.
 

nick87

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Do you want boring robots out there? Someone appears on a light hearted show.

Doesn't swear
Doesn't abuse anyone
Doesn't insult anyone

Cracks a joke and gets warned. Not sure what the game wants with the players.

The code is trying to appeal to everyone. It has an image problem, rightly earned, with women that it is trying to correct. And regardless of what you or i think about the remarks, some women are going to find that joke insulting, and most reasonable people, regardless of sex would concede at the very least it's not appropriate for the situation.

It was a minor misstep met with a minor response from the NRL.

What the game wants from the players is for them to not hurt the image of the game with inappropriate comments or behaviour. It's objectively a very f**king low bar to clear.
 

franklin2323

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The code is trying to appeal to everyone. It has an image problem, rightly earned, with women that it is trying to correct. And regardless of what you or i think about the remarks, some women are going to find that joke insulting, and most reasonable people, regardless of sex would concede at the very least it's not appropriate for the situation.

It was a minor misstep met with a minor response from the NRL.

What the game wants from the players is for them to not hurt the image of the game with inappropriate comments or behaviour. It's objectively a very f**king low bar to clear.

It is the Matty Johns Show. It is rated PG due to Adult themes and Sexual References.

So if you are watching that show you are prepared for such a thing.

It is different then the pre match talk they have on the panel. If Ennis or Lara Pitt or someone in the game day settings crossed and got that answer than the warning is justified.

So the game wants robots then? With the same cliched answers... yeah that will bring viewers in.
 

Eelementary

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The code is trying to appeal to everyone. It has an image problem, rightly earned, with women that it is trying to correct. And regardless of what you or i think about the remarks, some women are going to find that joke insulting, and most reasonable people, regardless of sex would concede at the very least it's not appropriate for the situation.

It was a minor misstep met with a minor response from the NRL.

What the game wants from the players is for them to not hurt the image of the game with inappropriate comments or behaviour. It's objectively a very f**king low bar to clear.

I agree with what you're saying.

But this is the same NRL that thought it was appropriate to celebrate Junior Paulo's try against Brisbane in round 1 on Twitter with a picture of Paulo scoring, captioned with the emoji of a gorilla...
 

some11

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I am so motivated to take up arms against the oppressor right now.
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Perth Red

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It is the Matty Johns Show. It is rated PG due to Adult themes and Sexual References.

So if you are watching that show you are prepared for such a thing.

It is different then the pre match talk they have on the panel. If Ennis or Lara Pitt or someone in the game day settings crossed and got that answer than the warning is justified.

So the game wants robots then? With the same cliched answers... yeah that will bring viewers in.

The panthers players interview was more entertaining, light hearted and didn’t create any negative discussions afterwards. we don’t need robots, we just don’t need dumb arses either.
I’m sure if he had left it at “I’m off to northies to sink a thousand beers” we would have all smiled and moved on. Like said it was low on the level of dumb things to say and was treat accordingly so by the nrl.
 

Penrose Warrior

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The code is trying to appeal to everyone. It has an image problem, rightly earned, with women that it is trying to correct. And regardless of what you or i think about the remarks, some women are going to find that joke insulting, and most reasonable people, regardless of sex would concede at the very least it's not appropriate for the situation.

It was a minor misstep met with a minor response from the NRL.

What the game wants from the players is for them to not hurt the image of the game with inappropriate comments or behaviour. It's objectively a very f**king low bar to clear.

Bloody hell, it's not hard is it? Nice one Nick. Go to the top of the class. I think when you say reasonable people, you mean people with enough IQ to figure out whether a door swings in or out when you go to open it. Those of us who set it have free passage through entrance ways while those who think the PC brigade are taking over, will be forever be pushing on the door at Maccas that has a handle and says PULL in large letters
 

Penrose Warrior

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I agree with what you're saying.

But this is the same NRL that thought it was appropriate to celebrate Junior Paulo's try against Brisbane in round 1 on Twitter with a picture of Paulo scoring, captioned with the emoji of a gorilla...

Well not really. That was one social media moron, not Andrew Abdo.
 
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Most important to speech-criminalisation advocates is silencing all criticismsregardless of how rational or well-meaning or if they are just attempts at humour which is basically dead now
 

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