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Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation part II

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El Diablo

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I reckon this incident (the AFL getting away with it) is a "line in the sand" moment for Dave Smith.

No more bullshit from the AFL and there preferential treatment, this would be a big kick in the guts for the AFL hierarchy (not to mention the AFL fans who claim no special treatment that frequent this forum)

he's probably on the phone to Canberra pleading with his Labor mates
 
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The entire thing is a farce and the people who should be verry worried now are ASADA and the AFL.

David Smith is a bloody champion. Gallop would have bent over for ASADA and
and done what the news ltd media wanted him to do.



Just imagine what Gallop would've done given his history of knee-jerk reactions.
 

Cletus

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Nah Demetriou came out about a month ago complaining about Smith and Grant "jumping up and down in Canberra". He didn't look happy. I think its just taken this long for Masters to get the lawyers to sign off on the story.
 

juro

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so just on doping.

say the players didnt know they were illegal. lets say they were told they werent, and believed it. and went on with it because hey theyre rugby league players. they dont question things. smarter folk wouldnt be league players.

is the statute of limitations on this endless?

like, how far back can they go with tests and samples and crap?

is cheating still cheating if you arent intending to cheat?
To my way of thinking, the players should be punished for doping, but then the players should be allowed to seek damages from the people who duped them.
 

Spot On

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That is a disgrace. How can the same investigation get two different results for two different sports? Especially if there is any truth in the involvement of the same key individuals in both cases.

Dave Smith - Keeping the buggers honest. :clap:

I'd also like to know who it was that tipped Essendon off before the 'world is about to end' press conference was given. That has yet to be cleared up.
 

RLFanGirl

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Finally this sage is starting to live up to the claim that it is the darkest day in Australian sport. If a major sporting code in Australia think they can let off an entire team of drug cheats then we may as well just open the doors and let everyone dope.

f**k the AFL look stupid right now. As if they were ever going to get away with that!
 

Billythekid

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Thank f*ck that Smith is in charge now. Imagine what would have happened if Gallop was still in charge, everything would have just been dumped on the NRL even moreso than it is now.
 

Shorty

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Why am I not surprised at these scummy tactics from the AFL.
Good to know Smith is here to play, game on.
 

Paullyboy

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The problem is the same as always - we all know about the disgraceful tactics used by the AFL to cover things up, but it doesn't filter out into the general public because its not front or back page news.

As far as the general public are concerned the AFL aren't even associated with this and that's the thing that annoys me the most.
 

RLFanGirl

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The problem is the same as always - we all know about the disgraceful tactics used by the AFL to cover things up, but it doesn't filter out into the general public because its not front or back page news.

As far as the general public are concerned the AFL aren't even associated with this and that's the thing that annoys me the most.

Demetriou or whatever his name is, is living in la la land. ASADA are going to have Essendon kicked out of the comp for 2 years. If they don't WADA will overrule them.

Essendon is like the Broncos of the AFL in case you didn't know. They're absolutely f**ked or ASADA may as well cease to exist.
 

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Demetriou or whatever his name is, is living in la la land. ASADA are going to have Essendon kicked out of the comp for 2 years. If they don't WADA will overrule them.

Essendon is like the Broncos of the AFL in case you didn't know. They're absolutely f**ked or ASADA may as well cease to exist.

Why so confident girl??
 

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...lity-rule-comes-into-play-20130328-2gx90.html

Who are the dopes?

The NRL doping scandal has produced one of the most bizarre cases of mistaken identity since former Warriors forward Tony Tatupu was given a cheque for signing with Super League meant for teammate Tony Tuimavave, after a player received a phone call from the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority last week. The player was contacted to arrange an interview over the allegations of drugs use among players at his club and despite advising the caller he was playing elsewhere he was told ASADA still wanted to speak to him. An ASADA representative later phoned him back to apologise and said: ''Sorry, same christian name but different surname.'' The incident reminds Sin Bin of a great story from the Super League war when News Ltd representatives travelled to Auckland to sign Warriors players for the breakaway competition. They had a sliding scale of sign-on payments depending on the player's standing and a list of what each player was worth. Tatupu, who was only a fringe player at the time, was among the first players to speak with the negotiators and after asking who he was the News Ltd representative mistakenly crossed off Tuimavave's name and wrote him a $100,000 cheque. When Tuimavave saw the negotiator soon after, he said, ''We've already signed you'' before realising his error and frantically trying to convince Tatupu to swap his cheque for one worth considerably less.
 
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The incident reminds Sin Bin of a great story from the Super League war when News Ltd representatives travelled to Auckland to sign Warriors players for the breakaway competition. They had a sliding scale of sign-on payments depending on the player's standing and a list of what each player was worth. Tatupu, who was only a fringe player at the time, was among the first players to speak with the negotiators and after asking who he was the News Ltd representative mistakenly crossed off Tuimavave's name and wrote him a $100,000 cheque. When Tuimavave saw the negotiator soon after, he said, ''We've already signed you'' before realising his error and frantically trying to convince Tatupu to swap his cheque for one worth considerably less.

News Ltd employee. Gross incompetence. Gallop?
 

El Diablo

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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/probe-must-be-independent-20130330-2h0d3.html

Probe must be independent

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March 31, 2013

Tim Lane
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The report by Roy Masters, in Thursday's Fairfax press, of a preferential deal for Essendon in the current drug investigation (''Bombers' secret deal exposed'') was startling.

As an acid test of our national credentials on issues of performance-enhancing drugs is faced, any suggestion of deals being done is disturbing.

AFL boss Andrew Demetriou has denied it, while the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority says no deals have been offered to any ''athlete or support person''.

Yet according to Masters, the NRL chief, David Smith, was sufficiently concerned at the possibility of a preferential deal for the AFL to raise the matter in a pre-arranged meeting with the Prime Minister.
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Demetriou told Fairfax radio on Thursday: ''It's simply not true,'' adding, ''We don't even know what the investigation is going to find. I'm not quite sure how you do a deal based on what you don't know.''

Masters is a well-connected journalist whose experience of Australian sport is unique within the sports media. He has sat on the board of the Australian Sports Commission and is a former senior rugby league coach. As is well known, he prefers that code to the one popularised south of the Murray. His affection for rugby league is in equal proportion to his dislike of humbug.

Masters' detractors in this case will imagine he has fallen victim to rugby league misinformation and/or paranoia. But his report is given credibility by the knowledge of Smith's complaint to the Prime Minister, and also by his revelation of the withdrawal from the current ASADA investigation of the drug authority's long-time counsel, John Marshall.

The reason, according to Masters, was that Marshall had insisted at a March 4 meeting with Cronulla Sharks lawyers, among other parties, that a zero penalty outcome was not possible.

Then, the next day, Marshall informed the Sharks' lawyers that this was actually not the case.

Marshall, who, according to Masters, was ''irked by the revelation of a possible zero sanction'', won't comment on any aspect of the case other than to confirm that he withdrew as ASADA's counsel on the case on March 6. He will continue to represent ASADA on other matters.

It is impossible to reconcile the suggestion of a zero penalty for Essendon players (in the event of a substantiated charge) with what is in the World Anti-Doping Agency Code. And that raises questions as to how such a possibility could have arisen, if indeed it did arise.

The WADA Code offers two mitigating categories when athletes have performed with banned substances in their systems but have not wilfully doped.

One arises where there was absolutely no fault on the athlete's part: perhaps a banned substance was administered while the athlete was unconscious during a surgical procedure, or the athlete - despite due care - was sabotaged.

The other mitigating circumstance is covered by the ''no significant fault'' clause and can include cases where an athlete was administered a substance by, say, a trainer, doctor, or coach who did not disclose to the athlete the substance's banned status.

Application of the ''no significant fault'' clause can have a penalty halved, and this can be further reduced if there is co-operation on the part of the athlete. But the clause can't be applied to eliminate a penalty altogether.

ASADA chief executive Aurora Andruska told Masters in mid-March: ''The only time a zero sanction has been given was when the athlete has been unconscious during surgery by a doctor.''

That raises the question as to how Essendon's players - in the event of culpability being found - could possibly avoid suspension.

For now, at least, there are no answers. The ASADA inquiry is confidential and, beyond general statements such as Andruska's to Masters, those involved cannot comment. That public confidence in it has now been undermined is troubling.

So, with the credibility in question of one of the most significant inquiries in the history of Australian sport, we are left to wonder whether any possibility exists of ASADA's processes being compromised.

The fact of the matter is that the anti-doping authority is not independent. It is a federal government department and reports to the Minister for Sport.

Following its restructure seven years ago (and its re-branding from ASDA to ASADA), the organisation ceased to operate at arm's length from government. This contrasts with the American agency, USADA, which is recognised by US Congress but is non-governmental.

It now becomes apparent that the Australian model is inadequate. While the notion of government intervention in any drugs-in-sport investigation would, at first glance, appear fanciful, this is not necessarily so. It's said that when Shane Warne learnt of his doping charge, he rang Kerry Packer, who rang then prime minister John Howard. Even if Howard responded with total propriety, the possibility that exists in such a circumstance is obvious.

If only to ensure justice is seen to be properly done, the federal government should structure ASADA in such a way as to ensure that interference is procedurally impossible.

For the sake of a sporting nation, the Australian anti-doping authority's independence should be restored.
 

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ss-of-government/story-e6frgd0x-1226611185436

Sport no business of government

by: Michael Sexton
From: The Australian
April 03, 2013 12:00AM

HOW is it possible that one of the clubs in the NRL, Cronulla, has been dealt a crippling financial blow by an agency of the federal government located in Canberra? Or that it may lose most of its senior players for this season? Or that the same thing may happen to other NRL clubs and some AFL clubs?

The short answer is that the NRL and the AFL, together with the other major commercial sporting bodies in Australia, have agreed with the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Agency that they will suspend players and officials who are found to have used banned substances.

Not that these substances are illegal. They are only drugs that ASADA and its international counterpart the World Anti-Doping Authority consider should not be used. This contrasts with a whole range of performance-enhancing dietary materials and training regimes that are not banned. It presumably can be taken for granted that most aspects of the life of a professional athlete are designed to improve their performance.

It is true the ASADA regime is technically mandatory for national sporting bodies but the legislation provides no penalty for non-compliance. So why would sporting codes sign up to this kind of deal when such fine distinctions between authorised and banned substances can have such dramatic consequences?

One reason is that all these sporting bodies get money from the federal government. This happens even though the commonwealth has no powers under the Constitution in relation to sport. Indeed, in the aftermath of the High Court's decision last year concerning federal expenditure on the national chaplaincy program in schools, it is likely that almost all the commonwealth's funding of sporting bodies is beyond its constitutional powers.

It is doubtful that money is the sole explanation for this acquiescence, particularly since the NRL and the AFL have huge revenues from television rights. These bodies also see themselves - in many ways rightly - as very powerful organisations in society. This has led in turn to them going into effective partnerships with governments and their agencies. They may have paid a heavy price for this vainglory.

Perhaps the most bizarre aspect of ASADA's investigation of the Cronulla club is the suggestion of plea bargaining under which 14 players might be "offered" a six-month suspension if they confessed instead of a two-year suspension if they did not. This happens in episodes of Law & Order but in the context of the criminal law, not a regulatory process. There was also a strange echo of the congressional hearings in Washington in the early 1950s into subversive activities in ASADA's public statement that a reduced penalty would be available only if the person accused not only confessed but named other offenders. This reflects an element of quasi-religious fanaticism in some working for anti-doping organisations, in the same way that fast foods and alcohol inspire crusaders against their use.

This spirit of zealotry is seen in the proposed legislation before the federal parliament that would give ASADA coercive powers to interrogate sportsmen and women. There would be no right to silence - still the privilege of every armed robber in police custody. There also would be a fine of $5000 every day for failure to answer questions.

On the subject of zealotry, consider the time and money spent in the pursuit of American cyclist Lance Armstrong. Most agree that Armstrong is a deeply dislikable character but it is highly doubtful whether his drug regime gave him an unfair advantage. Most of his rivals were also on drugs and what counts as unfair in the Tour de France, an event that pushes the boundaries of the human body and where riders receive the performance-enhancing assistance of team-mates, nutritionists, oxygen tents and hardly compete on equal terms.

All of this is just another example of governments using taxpayers' money to move into areas where they have no business. Why is there a federal minister for sport? Or for media or tourism, areas that could be, and for many years were, left to their own devices?

Michael Sexton SC is the author of several books on Australian politics and history.
 
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Interesting piece.

I wonder if someone challenged the constitutionality of federal government funds for sports and won , what would happen then?

Without the funding there would certainly be some thought given to leaving the WADA code by some sports. Particularly given the poor way this has been handled.
 
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