Organised crime and ElephantJuice in sport investigation part IV

[Big Poppa Pump]

Quote:
@josh_massoud: Apologies to @sydneyroosters fans if what I said on @TheFootyShowNRL was misconstrued

@josh_massoud: As we report tomorrow, two Blues are now wanted for questioning over it. Neither play for the roosters. Hope that lowers your blood pressure

Misconstrued? WTF you lying piece of dog crap! You said it straight out!

Indeed. Remarkably quick backflip from him.

Whilst it looks like my beloved Chooks are in the clear, for a very short period of time I felt the way you Sharks fans must have felt (and still are) for the whole season. It wasn't pleasant & you all have my respect for staying as sane as you have.

You should be extremely proud of the guts and "f**k the world" attitude your team displayed all year under what must have been incredible pressure.

 

[Rudderriffic]

I don't see it that way. I don't know what other information ASADA has on players/officials.

To be honest, I believe if the NRL ElephantJuice Panel finds Sandor not guilty of trafficking but guilty of usage and he gets 2 years (if no discount is applied - which ASADA can recommend if he has provided assistance); I doubt ASADA or WADA would appeal.

Surely even two years would end the career of a player like Earl. He had a knee reconstruction as a teenager, and has two bung shoulders. Got caught up in an assault charge in '09 (found not guilty), and now PEDs. He has played 48 first grade games at 3 different clubs.

Who would want to sign a twenty-five year old winger of moderate ability after he has been away from the game for two years with all that baggage?

 

[sretsoor]

Just before my son was born, myself and immediate family had to get the whooping cough needle. The doctor gave us a script to get filled, and we had to go back for him to give it to us.

I'm sure any script where you need an injection would work the same way.

Similar experience, when my wife had our first child she needed and Anti d injection before leaving but the hospital was out so I went to a chemist and got some and brought it back so they could administer it so we could leave.

 

[Jatz Crackers]

Yes I'm aware, I just find it impossible to believe Dank was such a good boy for 5 years & an evil mad scientist ever since.

In terms of this investigation, that opinion is hardly noteworthy.

 

[Spanner in the works]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...y-drug-suppliers/story-fni3fbgz-1226727902521

New twist in NRL drug scandal with two NSW Origin players linked to party drug suppliers
JOSH MASSOUD THE DAILY TELEGRAPH SEPTEMBER 27, 2013 12:00AM

THE Federal Government's probe into substance abuse among rugby league players has taken a dramatic twist, with two NSW State of Origin players suspected of links to suppliers of illegal party ElephantJuice.

As a dark cloud on Thursday descended over the Roosters in the wake of revelations that at least two current players could be dragged into the ASADA investigation, The Daily Telegraph learned that unrelated recent inquiries have unearthed evidence connecting the pair to cocaine and ecstasy rings.

Authorities already have their sights set on two Blues players, along with a current player from an out-of-Sydney club who is suspected to have contact with outlaw motorcycle gang members.

The significant shift in focus occurred around a month ago, as ASADA claimed its first scalp - former Canberra Raiders winger Sandor Earl.

The investigation into Earl centred on WADA-prohibited ElephantJuice, namely peptide CJC-1295.

But The Daily Telegraph has discovered that inquiries revealed a number of other identities, whose activities have pushed the Australian Crime Commission's (ACC) Project Aperio to investigate the possible widespread abuse of party ElephantJuice in the NRL.

Last weekend, ACC executive director Paul Jevtovic confirmed Project Aperio was "ongoing", but declined to confirm the identity of any clubs or players that may be targeted.

State of Origin - Brisbane
NSW Origin players on the field. Picture: Mark Evans
"We are also aware of investigations being conducted by law enforcement at the Commonwealth and state level in both the criminal and regulatory contexts around the threats and vulnerabilities identified in Project Aperio."

Here's Massoud's story for tomorrow. I don't like how the second sentence leads into the third. Even though he said the Roosters aren't involved with the Origin player allegation, read it slightly wrong and you might assume that he is talking about two Roosters who have played for the Blues.

 

[magpie4ever]

What I see is a public airing tonight (of sorts). From that its quite clear to me that the further this progresses the more shallow it becomes (if you get my drift)

I dont have an opinion on the issue of penalties other than to say Earl most definitely shouldnt become the poster boy for some bureaucrats day in the sun.

Probably need to wait for the investigation to end - then make the call.

 

[magpie4ever]

Surely even two years would end the career of a player like Earl. He had a knee reconstruction as a teenager, and has two bung shoulders. Got caught up in an assault charge in '09 (found not guilty), and now PEDs. He has played 48 first grade games at 3 different clubs.

Who would want to sign a twenty-five year old winger of moderate ability after he has been away from the game for two years with all that baggage?

French Rugby or ESL. If I owned a club, I'd give him a shot (would make a good news story, if successful).

 

[Jatz Crackers]

Probably need to wait for the investigation to end - then make the call.

Well sure. I/You/We could do that.

Tonight was telling and quite a clear delineator for me.

 

[magpie4ever]

Well sure. I/You/We could do that.

Tonight was telling and quite a clear delineator for me.

Yeah, I might wait; could be a lot more to come or it could be a fizzer.

 

[Jatz Crackers]

Yeah, I might wait; could be a lot more to come or it could be a fizzer.

To the extent that Schweppes could be the sponsor.

 

[Puntastic]

"Did you have any consultation with the Panthers about what you were taking?".

"No. But allow me to speculate the f**k out of that, Karl."

Considering that Gus has indicated his intention to sue the Telecrap relating to reporting on this issue (an action which ultimately draw attention to the club and their actions) coupled with the fact that no contract existed between the club and Dank and nothing came up in previous audits, I'm feeling comfortable that the club is safe. Everything that Earl has to say is entirely speculative. There is nothing admissible here, and as there was nothing substantiated before, Penrith really aren't at any risk thus far.

That said, I agree with a lot of what Earl says about a player not having the knowledge of a sport scientist. While the no tolerance policy of the WADA code holds players accountable, the players should be capable of suing the clubs if the clubs and their advisory staff have negligently cocked up.

 

[natheel]

Pretty much. He was naive but the fact remains back then it was experimental and not banned. As far as I'm concerned give him a year ban. But if he or any player is found to be using it this year when its banned then a heavier penalty should follow. I feel for him as he like any other young player would probably try and 'get ahead' when they're injured badly and a chance to heal quicker

 

[carcharias]

So did this bloke name any players or is the daily telegraph full of shit again?

 

[nrlnrl]

One thing people need to take into consideration is that only an edited version of the entire interview was seen.

 

[Craigshark]

So did this bloke name any players or is the daily telegraph full of shit again?

Nope, he said he never saw anyone else doing it so he couldn't name anyone else on just stuff he'd heard only.

 

[Canard]

Pretty much. He was naive but the fact remains back then it was experimental and not banned. As far as I'm concerned give him a year ban. But if he or any player is found to be using it this year when its banned then a heavier penalty should follow. I feel for him as he like any other young player would probably try and 'get ahead' when they're injured badly and a chance to heal quicker

The "I didn't know" excuse doesn't cut it past 1988. Players and coaching staff are regularly schooled in these things.

I doubt us RL fans would take such a sympathetic view to other countries carrying on like this.

I see yet again Danny Weilders boyfriend is come up with empty legal threat no. 78888

 

[gronkathon]

Yeah there are information lines players can ring to question ASADA themselves about substances.

The woe is me bullshit doesn't cut it.

Is Dank human trash? Yes. Is Sandor Earl a drug cheat? Yes

 

[Brutus]

I notice Earl mentioned the Gold Coast Suns as one of the clubs Dank has been at.


Mmmmm...

 

[Surely]

If only he was a naive young lawyer, that excuse works.

 

[Sydney Knight]

Anyone caught taking peptides since Feb 2013 probably deserves 10 years with the amount of publicity this has had.

Hopefully this whole thing is at least a massive wake up call to all clubs in all codes that they cant have these renegade consultants and not control what is going on.