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Origin 2013 NSW side

natheel

natheel

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Laurie's "gidley" will be Pearce. In terms of a player being automatically picked regardless of form or previous origin form. For me Pearce gets a go on form this year but he has never stood up in origin. If he fails this year to stand out and we are 2-0 going into game 3 I think it's time for Reynolds to be given a go.

Id go with a side like

1. Stewart
2. Morris (only just hasn't been great this year)
3. Morris (purely for his defence)
4. Jennings
5. Hayne
6. Maloney
7. Pearce
8. Grant
9. Farah
10. Tamou
11. Bird
12. Lewis
13. Gallen (if fit)
14. Watmough
15. Mannah
16. Woods
17. Sims/Merrin

Sims should get his go although merrin has impressed as a backrower this year

Grant, Tamou, Woods and Mannah should be our front row rotation and is looking to be our front rowers for the future.

Previous years when mannah was picked he got limited time but still went very well. For some reason Stuart left him out in the cold but now has nothing but praise for him as his full time coach. In a side going poorly he has really stood up and showed he is going to be a great leader and surely has his hand up for origin again.

Tamou is a no brainer as is grant. But with woods he like mannah has impressed in a poor side.

People calling for Merritt to be in the team. I don't think he should be picked. He's great for Souths sure but I don't see him as an origin player.

Uate could get a go ahead of Brett Morris though. Hayne will play purely off previous origin form and with Jennings inside him they make a pretty good pairing.

I've picked Maloney as I think he deserves a shot ahead of Carney. He and Pearce (certainty to be half) have shown a better combination early on than Pearce and carney had at roosters or in origin. But like I said for me this would be Pearces last chance. Also it's probably the first time he's been picked based on good form.

Backrow is a no brainer. Gallen will be here if fit. And Lewis, Bird and Watmough are there purely on origin experience and the way the perform in a blues jersey. Merrin deserves a go but if he isn't picked I'd like young Tariq to get a go. But one things for sure Daley can't be stupid enough to pick Creagh surely?
 
natheel

natheel

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Raider_69 said:
A year early for Jacky Wighton but how about Blake Ferguson? One on one all he does is bath his opposition centre.
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I had fergo in my team for last year but seeing how josh Morris contained inglis last year I'd rather have him in there again. And Jennings and Hayne have a good combination to put a new guy in there. Ferguson could take a wing spot though. Although Brett did well in game 3 last year mostly ha hasn't stood up in origin. But I'd say uate would get first go if Brett isn't picked
 
natheel

natheel

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Mr Saab said:
Why not? He fits Laurie's theory about players who have been there before!
I hope he is picked...this place would crash.
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Why not? Because there are better options than Creagh always has been, but wouldn't surprise me if he gets picked.

i love Daleys reasoning as to why he is not picking Reynolds...."Pearce has felt the pain of losing it would be hard to bring in Adam because he hasn't felt the pain of losing" So pretty much until Blues win a series Reynolds won't get a go...well judging by Daley's reasoning. Probably the most stupid logic. if he picks the same guys for the first 2 games and we go down 2-0 we need a massive change in game 3.
 
RecordBreakingMaroons.

RecordBreakingMaroons.

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If "the pain of losing" was the determining factor in reshaping Mythchell Piss' Origin form, he'd be the best Origin halfback of all time, by now.

NSW's number 7 knucklehead seems to have learnt nothing from his previous Origin experiences. Further more by riding along on the coat-tails of an improved team performance at club level, when the going gets tough in Origin and his team is looking for something out of the ordinary and he hasn't got the Roosters structure to manufacture plays that make him look good, NSW will be left with the predictable Pearce bomb to the left.

Any bet that if NSW lose this series, Piss will be back in the number 7 next year.
 
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BennyV

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natheel said:
In sure he will be but on form and previous origin performances should he be guaranteed a spot?
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I think his form in game 3 last year (which lets face it, he killed), the combo with his brother and the fact that Uate has become a target for the QLD attack and kicking games should cement Brett's spot. His form for the dragons has been down a bit (sadly) but that's more due to the fact that we can't get a decent backline movement - his dummy half work is still right up there, his defence is great and he's safe under the high ball.
 
Mr Saab

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natheel said:
i love Daleys reasoning as to why he is not picking Reynolds...."Pearce has felt the pain of losing it would be hard to bring in Adam because he hasn't felt the pain of losing" So pretty much until Blues win a series Reynolds won't get a go...well judging by Daley's reasoning. Probably the most stupid logic. if he picks the same guys for the first 2 games and we go down 2-0 we need a massive change in game 3.
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Laurie would confuse himself with what comes out of his mouth. Hard to bring in Adam cause he has not felt the pain of losing....WTF is that!
When Mitchell kicks down the throat of Slater, or his grubber kick ends up on Parramatta Rd his confidence will be shot and he will 2nd guess himself and that will be the end of NSW.
Laurie would make a great club coach....would stick with the same players all year as they have "felt the pain of losing".
And NSW chose this guy as their coach!!
 
Jono1987

Jono1987

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natheel said:
In sure he will be but on form and previous origin performances should he be guaranteed a spot?
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Hayne must be getting picked on previous form then too I take it? Oh and if Mannah makes it infront of Merrin I'll eat my hat.
 
meltiger

meltiger

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natheel said:
Laurie's "gidley" will be Pearce. In terms of a player being automatically picked regardless of form or previous origin form. For me Pearce gets a go on form this year but he has never stood up in origin. If he fails this year to stand out and we are 2-0 going into game 3 I think it's time for Reynolds to be given a go.

Id go with a side like

1. Stewart
2. Morris (only just hasn't been great this year)
3. Morris (purely for his defence)
4. Jennings
5. Hayne
6. Maloney
7. Pearce
8. Grant
9. Farah
10. Tamou
11. Bird
12. Lewis
13. Gallen (if fit)
14. Watmough
15. Mannah
16. Woods
17. Sims/Merrin

Sims should get his go although merrin has impressed as a backrower this year

Grant, Tamou, Woods and Mannah should be our front row rotation and is looking to be our front rowers for the future.

Previous years when mannah was picked he got limited time but still went very well. For some reason Stuart left him out in the cold but now has nothing but praise for him as his full time coach. In a side going poorly he has really stood up and showed he is going to be a great leader and surely has his hand up for origin again.

Tamou is a no brainer as is grant. But with woods he like mannah has impressed in a poor side.

People calling for Merritt to be in the team. I don't think he should be picked. He's great for Souths sure but I don't see him as an origin player.

Uate could get a go ahead of Brett Morris though. Hayne will play purely off previous origin form and with Jennings inside him they make a pretty good pairing.

I've picked Maloney as I think he deserves a shot ahead of Carney. He and Pearce (certainty to be half) have shown a better combination early on than Pearce and carney had at roosters or in origin. But like I said for me this would be Pearces last chance. Also it's probably the first time he's been picked based on good form.

Backrow is a no brainer. Gallen will be here if fit. And Lewis, Bird and Watmough are there purely on origin experience and the way the perform in a blues jersey. Merrin deserves a go but if he isn't picked I'd like young Tariq to get a go. But one things for sure Daley can't be stupid enough to pick Creagh surely?
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Has been said many times before ;-)


Like your team and most of your reasonings. Particularly agree on Mannah, treated shabbily when he did play, and as you say in his time on the field actually performed well, particularly defensively.


We do still have major problems in 3/4 though in comparison to what The Northern NSW/QLD combined side will select. Until we can contain GI/JH are always going to find it a tough ask to win. You've nominated probably the only two realistic options, and still that worries me.
 
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Spot On

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Well if Uate is being pushed for Origin then Tafua is a definite starter. Put three tries on Uate in R2 and continues to play strong. Very good player.
 
Raiders_Premiers

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1. Stewart
2. Hayne
3. Jennings
4. J.Morris
5. B.Morris
6. Carney
7. Pearce
8. Tamou
9. Farah
10. Grant (? He's been poor this year)
11. Gallen
12. Lewis
13. Bird

Interchange

14. Watmough
15. Woods
16. T. Sims
17. Kurt f**king Gidley (hopefully something keeps him out)

Fringe/unlucky to miss out

Maloney
Uate
Ferguson
A. Reynolds
Merrin
Fifita
Fensom
 
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DOGS AND EELS!!!

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Raiders_Premiers said:
1. Stewart
2. Hayne
3. Jennings
4. J.Morris
5. B.Morris
6. Carney
7. Pearce
8. Tamou
9. Farah
10. Grant (? He's been poor this year)
11. Gallen
12. Lewis
13. Bird

Interchange

14. Watmough
15. Woods
16. T. Sims
17. Kurt f**king Gidley (hopefully something keeps him out)

Fringe/unlucky to miss out

Maloney
Uate
Ferguson
A. Reynolds
Merrin
Fifita
Fensom
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Honestly i think Fifita would offer more than Woods at origin. I can't believe the Tigers let him go, and are you wanting one of the props to play the full 80? or pushing a back rower upfront?
 
RecordBreakingMaroons.

RecordBreakingMaroons.

Juniors
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Mr Saab said:
Laurie would confuse himself with what comes out of his mouth. Hard to bring in Adam cause he has not felt the pain of losing....WTF is that!
When Mitchell kicks down the throat of Slater, or his grubber kick ends up on Parramatta Rd his confidence will be shot and he will 2nd guess himself and that will be the end of NSW.
Laurie would make a great club coach....would stick with the same players all year as they have "felt the pain of losing".
And NSW chose this guy as their coach!!
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It's called: It makes no sense including this guy in the team. Therefore I'll manufacture any nonsense to put forward as a logical reason why I've said that he is a mandatory inclusion. Since it is undeniable that the team has been losing whilst he has been playing, lets use 'Losing' as the reasoning behind why we absolutely must select him.

It's the sort of 'reasoning' one gets from people with advanced Dementia. :crazy:

Something tells me that the press-releases from Loz are going to be paragons of intellectual incoherency. :D

I like Laurie. He was a great player and it looks as if unlike Sooky, he isn't prepared to request the ghost writers to throw muck via the press-releases. In other words, a decent man. He is however showing how his time as a NSW selector was also the genesis of Pearce, Creagh, Gidley, Ennis, and a host of other Origin flops.

He won't tinker with the mix too much, though I would expect to see Gidley back. He's certain to partner Maloney with Pearce in the misguided hope that including both of them will transfer the Roosters' form across to the Blues.

Fat chance.
 
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