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Origin 2013 NSW side

Mr Saab

Referee
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8. Grant
9. Farah
10. Gallen
11. Watmough
12. Luke Lewis
13. Bird

14. Tamou
15. Galloway
16. T. Williams
17. Hayne


We need to attack these QLD merkins with a massive forward pack,
fast backs, and size size size. Hayne off the bence at the
65 minute mark will cut them to pieces.

T Rex is lazy

Galloway is injured his pec and is out for 4 months (good to see follow the game )

Watmough is not massive - but he is good

Gallen is not massive but NSW need him, even though i think he sometimes hampers their play

Hayne - people thought the same with Matt Bowen off the bench for QLD, but it did not work and Bowen had alot more spark in his day than Hayne does now
 

Joker's Wild

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:lol:

the jizzfest for Sutton is incredible.

Sad thing is, I can see Fulton and Daley selecting him, totally ignoring the fact that his performances are created by the platform a pack of effective monster forwards at his club, and the biggest threat in rugby league alongside him, provide him.

ask him to do it on his own, sutton is a spud. i can admit that as a souths supporter. he and reynolds are looking great thanks to the support cast doing the hard work. reynolds is purely a game manager at the moment, sutton capitilises on the back pedalling and confused defence (forwards creating plenty of momentum and the defence in two minds about Inglis).

both are big selection errors at this level.

it seems as though we have a state of bozos, not just at the selection table.

To be fair BH, most of us laugh at the clowns who are suggesting Sutton be selected
 

big hit!

Bench
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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-as-daley-sorts-out-blues-20130506-2j3mc.html

Interesting. What I've been crapping on about a bit. Is Walters on LU?

But yes, I'll re-iterate what I've been saying. Doesn't matter who is selected in the backs if Daley doesn't to set up the forward pack to give NSW the best chance to win the middle.

NSW got worn down in the crucial 50-70 min period of games last year with QLDs big boppas and their efficient use of the interchange ensuring that they eventually got on top of NSW in the middle of the field. This in turn gave Thurston Cronk et al the momentum to do their thing.

In contrast Stuart used a more mobile pack with stints by Gallen, Watmough & Creagh at prop. The use of our fair dinkum props such as Tamou, Grant & Merrin (at the time he was) was also poor due to bad use of interchange and game time. Basically, Gallen is simply a gametime and ball hog. First cab off the rank in a set, two hit ups a set, trying to do it all on his own for 80 mins, each run and tackle incrementally reducing his effectiveness. Great for stats and inspirational it may be, but he's not going to beat an opposition pack of origin forwards on his own. Furthermore, he's undersized for a front line prop role at this level.

Props bend the line and get the opposition defence moving backwards. They need to make solid contact in every tackle against the opposition big bodies. It's about impact and effectiveness, not work load. The middle backrower and the acting half can get through the workload. The props need to be fresh with 45-50 mins total game time each. That's why NSW need a 4-man fair dinkum prop rotation which will take the battle to the QLD rotation, continually get fresh bodies in the middle and attempt to maintain the NSW momentum and territory gains of the middle into the final third of the match.

AH: Farah
PF: Tamou
PF: Grant
MF: Gallen
RF: Lewis
LF: Bird

IP: Woods
IP: Fifita
IF: Watmough
IF: Sims

That's what I'd go with at the mo.

Merrin misses out because he is not playing as a fair dinkum prop at the mo, and he can't be in the same team as a backrower with Gallen & Watmough because they all primarily play the same position, middle forward. Watmough can play a bit more on the left edge and fill in both Bird & Gallen who must each come off for a stint. Sims can sub Lewis on the right. Woods and Fifita are in the prop rotation with Tamou & Grant.

As a middle backrower, Gallen needs to know his place in the hierarchy. He comes after the two props on the field as cabs off the rank for hit ups. he can't be calling for the ball all the time and having the props holding their balls out there. the props can bend the line and get NSW moving much better than Gallen who bounces, runs sideways and goes for a limited second dig while the QLD defence is already setting up for the next tackle.

NSW need a smart use of the forwards, not fatiguing some of them and having others sitting on the pine for most of the game like Stuart did. They won't beat the QLD big bodies this way. Scott, Shillo, Hannant, Myles will probably be their prop rotation but they have options here with Kennedy, Lillyman, McGuire. A pack of primarily NSW backrowers up against their props in the middle won't win the battle. Thaiday on the right edge, Teo on the left, Parker in the middle for the injured Harrision. Another two will be picked from papalii, Gillett, McQueen, Taylor.............and the workload will be distributed to maintain impact and effectiveness like they've done the last 7 years. Fresh forwards in origin cannot be understated.
 
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Are you seriously thinking Grant/Mason would be better than Woods/Merrin?

Grant and Mason are more explosive than Woods and Merrin, I think we need that. Also Merrin has been playing good, but at LOCK. If they are going to select him, select him at LOCK. Not on the bench or prop.
 

big hit!

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Grant and Mason are more explosive than Woods and Merrin, I think we need that. Also Merrin has been playing good, but at LOCK. If they are going to select him, select him at LOCK. Not on the bench or prop.

but there's Gallen. And watmough plays in the middle too even though he wears #11 at Manly. Unless he plays prop, Merrin misses out unfortunately and I wouldn't play him at prop. That's not where he's been firing this season. Different role to what he's playing.
 

BennyV

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Agree that Merrin shouldn't be playing prop...his strength at this stage is hitting it up, standing in the tackle and getting an offload or carrying a few defenders forward, not bending the line and getting a quick play the ball. Should be there as a backrower or not at all. And that's from a Dragons supporter.

Interesting to note that QLD don't pick a halves/hooker utility anymore. They were picking Cronk for a while, but he was there to prepare for life after Lockyer - other than that, they have backrowers/centres who will fill in for injuries in the spine.

Which begs the argument: GO AWAY KURT GIDLEY.
 

Sujskiez

Juniors
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My team
New South Wales Blues
1. Jarryd Hayne (Eels)(since stewart is ruled out for 5 weeks with injury)
2. Nathan Meritt (Rabbits)
3. Josh Morris (Bulldogs)
4. Michael Jennings (Roosters)
5. Jorge Taufua (Sea Eagles)
6. John Sutton (Rabbitohs)
7. Todd Carney (Sharks)
8. Paul Gallen (Sharks)
9. Robbie Farah (Tigers)
10. James Tamou (Cowboys)
11. Willie Mason (Knights)
12. Greg Bird (Titans)
13. Braith Anasta (Tigers)
14. Tony Williams (Bulldogs)
15. Tim Mannah (Eels)
16. Trent Merrin (Dragons)
17. Anthony Watmough (Sea Eagles)
 
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BranVan3000

Coach
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My team
New South Wales Blues
1. Jarryd Hayne (Eels)(since stewart is ruled out for 5 weeks with injury)
2. Nathan Meritt (Rabbits)
3. Josh Morris (Bulldogs)
4. Michael Jennings (Roosters)
5. Jorge Taufua (Sea Eagles)
6. John Sutton (Rabbitohs)
7. Todd Carney (Sharks)
8. Paul Gallen (Sharks)
9. Robbie Farah (Tigers)
10. James Tamou (Cowboys)
11. Willie Mason (Knights)
12. Greg Bird (Titans)
13. Braith Anasta (Tigers)
14. Tony Williams (Bulldogs)
15. Tim Mannah (Eels)
16. Trent Merrin (Dragons)
17. Anthony Watmough (Sea Eagles)
This squad would get demolished

Carney and Sutton couldn't organise a root in a brothel together. Need a player like Reynolds in the halves more than either of those two.

Sutton is in great form but would be better off the bench

Bwaiff, Willy, Mannah and Tony Williams? Hahaha.
 

Tone83

Juniors
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Anastas gotta be the funniest suggestion, which is saying something amidst calls for maso and sutton.
 

Tone83

Juniors
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I'll ask again because I didn't get an answer the first time, but what is reece robinson? He should waltz onto the wing of either team.
 

Pete Cash

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I'll ask again because I didn't get an answer the first time, but what is reece robinson? He should waltz onto the wing of either team.

He is from nsw and furner was asked by city origin if he was available before tedesco was selected (but rr was carrying an injury) but as a winger he is pretty safe and a good try scorer but isn't the best at doing the hard yards that wingers are required to do these days

I'd pick Ferguson for the wing from the raiders before rr. Ferguson is physically quite imposing and would make a good origin player imo.
 

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