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[TheRam]

you seem upset - just like Alex Jones

Not upset brother, just concerned for your greedy evil soul.

Repent.

 

[bazza]

Not upset brother, just concerned for your greedy evil soul.

Repent.

I am sure that lying is a sin
"Though shalt not gaslight" might have been the 11th commandment but was removed due to not adding to the story

 

[Gary Gutful]

I am sure that lying is a sin
"Though shalt not gaslight" might have been the 11th commandment but was removed due to not adding to the story

Ran out of room on the page.

 

[bazza]

Ran out of room on the page.

It is available in the director's cut of Exodus

 

[TheRam]

This is whitewashing the facts.

Jones’s Sandy Hook commentary went on for years. Parents were harassed, kids at school alienated for years.

Sandy Hook was in 2012. Jones was still gaslighting 5 years later. The fallout, the public mistrust of the families who still to this day are told they are paid actors, that their sons and daughters never existed, still pays a toll.

One of the Dads took his life in 2019, because of the ongoing trauma and victimisation.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dad-sandy-hook-school-shooting-victim-dies-apparent/story?id=61926331

Free speech: You can't say whatever you like. You can't yell FIRE in a theatre. You can't say you have a BOMB on a plane. So let's not pretend that free speech is some sort of passport to say anything including opinions.

You can say an opinion - BUT - if it defames someone and damages their reputation, then you're f**ked.

USA (varies from state to state, however in general) ---> To prove prima facie defamation, you must prove to the court 4 things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.


Here is a small sampling of what he said:

• “My gut is, with the timing and everything that happened, this is staged. And you know I’ve been saying the last few months, get ready for big mass shootings, and then magically, it happens.”
• “Folks, we got to get private investigators up to Sandy Hook right now. Because I’m telling you this — this stinks to highest heaven.”
• “We’re sorry for everybody’s losses, whatever. We’re investigating this, though.”
• “It’s as phony as a $3 bill.”
• “You’ve got parents laughing — ‘hahaha’ — and then they walk over to the camera and go ‘boo hoo hoo,’ and not just one but a bunch of parents doing this and then photos of kids that are still alive they said died? I mean, they think we’re so dumb.”
• “Why did Hitler blow up the Reichstag — to get control! Why do governments stage these things — to get our guns! Why can’t people get that through their head?”
• “I watched the footage, and it looks like a drill.”

After Robbie Parker, whose daughter Emilie died at Sandy Hook, gave a news conference the night after the shooting, Mr. Jones said:

• “You know, after you lose your daughter, they put you on some antidepressants or something, but I thought those take a month to kick in. I mean, it’s like a look of absolute satisfaction, like he’s about to accept an Oscar.”
• “It looks like he’s saying, ‘OK, do I read off the card?’ He’s laughing, and then he goes over and starts basically breaking down and crying.”

Here’s what Jones has said about Sandy Hook. (Published 2022)

Alex Jones spent years accusing the family members of Sandy Hook shooting victims of being actors in a hoax and suggesting that their children were still alive.

www.nytimes.com

Thank you for posting this. I get that it sounds unsavory and unsympathetic and even down right cruel to people that read or listen to it for the very first time, especially if you don't have context of what he(Alex) had been going on about for days and weeks and even months and years, but to millions of people that did and do, he wasn't actually attacking the parents or children, but he was looking at parallels of other instances of false flags and Manchurian candidate types of things like he usually does when stuff happens.

But at no stage did or has he ever suggested or encourage or anything like that to hound or harass any of the family members or anyone ever really, other then some of the political class and globalist that need to be put on the spot and asked the hard questions. If anything he goes to great lengths and always has for 29 years now to strongly point out that violence is not an option and that we need to turn this around in a peaceful resistance kind of way. And I do mean he preaches it. He almost has a no violence mantra every freakin show. The only time he says that violence is an option is from a defensive stance and not offensive. He often cite Gundi and Martin Luther King Jr as the role models to follow.

He can't though control what idiots (not necessarily viewers/listeners) then go and do out there. He was never part of any Sandy Hook family harassments. He only ever named one of them and that was it from memory.

So getting back to what freedom of speech really means especially in America. As long as you aren't calling for violence or murdering someone you can pretty damn say almost anything. The reason we have it is not so we can all pat ourselves on the back in agreement, but for the people that want and have an opinion that may be totally different to yours or mine and may even be very upsetting and down right offensive. That's the freakin point.

So where in anything that Alex Jones over his whole career can anyone show him calling for violence or murdering someone or even civil unrest for that matter? Joking and dressing up and doing silly parodies over the years doesn't count. Remember in the courts own admission and the prosecuting lawyers they all want to shut him up and get him off the air. If he was a real loon, why would they bother? I mean eventually more and more people would just point and laugh right. The courts and Govs won't need to get involved. The people would have spoken and done it for them.

But what has actually happened? Oh sh*t he has only gotten bigger and bigger and more and more credible, with more and more people joining in and calling out Alex as a Paul Revere type and the catch cry that is growing all the time of 'Alex Jones Was Right'. Even the number one cable TV news host Greg Gutfeld publically stated on his show this very week that he will channel Alex Jones and then went on to impersonate him and started connecting all the dots of what was going on right now and that a whole lot of seemingly unconnected things and events are actually all connected and that there was a plan evolving that he wasn't to happy about. In days of old he and others on that show even when they would bring up a topic or story that AJ had broken in the first place, they or almost anyone on that network would never even dare mention his name. But now he even puts on his voice ffs!

So instead of this supposed whacky loon rolling off a clif in the ratings and disappearing into obscurity he and his message is only getting bigger all the time. Joe Rogan is one of his mates who now agrees with almost everything AJ says and Rogan is a lefty, but a real one that isn't a Marxist twit. There are many celebrities that have appeared on his show and agree with him totally, but even more that won't come on because they say to him that it would end their careers but he is right, especially with the things he says about Greedy Evil Hollywood and all those shenanigans.

But finally, you don't have to agree with any of this and still hate AJ to the bone, but $1B or asking for $2.75T for what he said? Are you kidding me? So he upset the families of dead children, That deserves $1B? What should the loved ones of someone that is actually tortured, raped and then set alight to receive? The whole worlds GDP?

It was a kangaroo court that just went in to silence a man that helped get Trump elected and is a constant thorn in the side of everything the greedy evil Globalist want to do to us. They are cancelling and silence all their opposition and you need to take out the biggest gorilla as fast as you can. Especially before the next election cycle.

Again $1B - $2.75T let it sink f**king in! It is insanity that I even have to argue the point. But you all know it, you have just chosen to go along with the greedy evil merkins that run all the sh*t. But the day will come, You may never lower your arrogant pride, but you will know you rode the wrong horse and now it's to late.

You may even whisper under your laboured breath just as the shot is fired, Alex Jones was f**king ri...black out.

 

[bazza]

It isn't our fault that Alex Jones couldn't make a trillion dollars from his gaslighting and lies

 

[TheRam]

Wow. That's all you have got Bart?
Are you this much of a dickhead in real life?
Actually, don't bother replying. I already know the answer.

Compared to Bart, I think you know I'm the moderate one.

 

[TheRam]

I am sure that lying is a sin
"Though shalt not gaslight" might have been the 11th commandment but was removed due to not adding to the story

I don't think you know the meaning of what gaslighting. The 11 commandment was actually one shall not argue or lay with goats named Bazza.

It was so ingrained in the psyche of the people on that day, that it didn't even need to be written.

Repent evil goat brother!

 

[TheRam]

It doesn't matter, the amount is just symbolic of the egregiousness of his actions. He doesn't have a billion dollars, let alone a trillion, that's a lot of brain-pill grifting to gormless rubes that is. Whatever, it'll never be paid, and the court would obviously know this.

@TheRam is focusing on that aspect purely as an attempt to denigrate the decision of the court that he is indeed liable for his actions.

No it is a message to everyone that wants to speak out. That is the point. We will totally destroy you and everything you hold dear to your will be gone forever.

That is the powerful message that the are setting here.

But you know that evil duplicitous man. You're just doing a radical obfuscating sidestepping dance with two left feet and everyone is laughing at you clumsy jerky ugly moves that fool on one.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Thank you for posting this. I get that it sounds unsavory and unsympathetic and even down right cruel to people that read or listen to it for the very first time, especially if you don't have context of what he(Alex) had been going on about for days and weeks and even months and years, but to millions of people that did and do, he wasn't actually attacking the parents or children, but he was looking at parallels of other instances of false flags and Manchurian candidate types of things like he usually does when stuff happens.

But at no stage did or has he ever suggested or encourage or anything like that to hound or harass any of the family members or anyone ever really, other then some of the political class and globalist that need to be put on the spot and asked the hard questions. If anything he goes to great lengths and always has for 29 years now to strongly point out that violence is not an option and that we need to turn this around in a peaceful resistance kind of way. And I do mean he preaches it. He almost has a no violence mantra every freakin show. The only time he says that violence is an option is from a defensive stance and not offensive. He often cite Gundi and Martin Luther King Jr as the role models to follow.

He can't though control what idiots (not necessarily viewers/listeners) then go and do out there. He was never part of any Sandy Hook family harassments. He only ever named one of them and that was it from memory.

So getting back to what freedom of speech really means especially in America. As long as you aren't calling for violence or murdering someone you can pretty damn say almost anything. The reason we have it is not so we can all pat ourselves on the back in agreement, but for the people that want and have an opinion that may be totally different to yours or mine and may even be very upsetting and down right offensive. That's the freakin point.

So where in anything that Alex Jones over his whole career can anyone show him calling for violence or murdering someone or even civil unrest for that matter? Joking and dressing up and doing silly parodies over the years doesn't count. Remember in the courts own admission and the prosecuting lawyers they all want to shut him up and get him off the air. If he was a real loon, why would they bother? I mean eventually more and more people would just point and laugh right. The courts and Govs won't need to get involved. The people would have spoken and done it for them.

But what has actually happened? Oh sh*t he has only gotten bigger and bigger and more and more credible, with more and more people joining in and calling out Alex as a Paul Revere type and the catch cry that is growing all the time of 'Alex Jones Was Right'. Even the number one cable TV news host Greg Gutfeld publically stated on his show this very week that he will channel Alex Jones and then went on to impersonate him and started connecting all the dots of what was going on right now and that a whole lot of seemingly unconnected things and events are actually all connected and that there was a plan evolving that he wasn't to happy about. In days of old he and others on that show even when they would bring up a topic or story that AJ had broken in the first place, they or almost anyone on that network would never even dare mention his name. But now he even puts on his voice ffs!

So instead of this supposed whacky loon rolling off a clif in the ratings and disappearing into obscurity he and his message is only getting bigger all the time. Joe Rogan is one of his mates who now agrees with almost everything AJ says and Rogan is a lefty, but a real one that isn't a Marxist twit. There are many celebrities that have appeared on his show and agree with him totally, but even more that won't come on because they say to him that it would end their careers but he is right, especially with the things he says about Greedy Evil Hollywood and all those shenanigans.

But finally, you don't have to agree with any of this and still hate AJ to the bone, but $1B or asking for $2.75T for what he said? Are you kidding me? So he upset the families of dead children, That deserves $1B? What should the loved ones of someone that is actually tortured, raped and then set alight to receive? The whole worlds GDP?

It was a kangaroo court that just went in to silence a man that helped get Trump elected and is a constant thorn in the side of everything the greedy evil Globalist want to do to us. They are cancelling and silence all their opposition and you need to take out the biggest gorilla as fast as you can. Especially before the next election cycle.

Again $1B - $2.75T let it sink f**king in! It is insanity that I even have to argue the point. But you all know it, you have just chosen to go along with the greedy evil merkins that run all the sh*t. But the day will come, You may never lower your arrogant pride, but you will know you rode the wrong horse and now it's to late.

You may even whisper under your laboured breath just as the shot is fired, Alex Jones was f**king ri...black out.

He was so f**ken wrong about Sandy Hook. Have a look at some of his arrogant quotes that turned out to be complete and utter bullshit. What a f**ken dill.

Why would you put your faith in someone that is so obviously full of shit? Doesn’t the fact that he was so clearly dribbling shit about Sandy Hook make you question anything he says?

You treat him like some sort of messiah who is right about everything but he’s just a dumb merkin like most people are.

 

[TheRam]

Are Spud Carroll pills TPA approved?

No, he hands them out to you after he has smacked you out in the head while listening to him for a couple of hours on a footy call. Except he doesn't actually need to give you no pill by that stage, the damage is well and truly done.

 

[TheRam]

There should be consequences for peddling hurtful lies but I agree with @TheRam that a $1B or $2.75T lawsuit is a bit f**ken ridiculous.

Finally.

Some common sense.

 

[bazza]

No it is a message to everyone that wants to speak out. That is the point. We will totally destroy you and everything you hold dear to your will be gone forever.

That appears to be what happened to the parents of the Sandy Hook victims that Alex gaslighted for years
Thankfully they got their chance to speak out like you support

 

[Gronk]

Again $1B - $2.75T let it sink f**king in!

Who gives a rats ? It's a stupid country with s stupid legal system.

You can become a millionare because someone serves you a coffee that was too hot.

If you live in a stupid country, you need to be self aware that doing or saying stupid things can cost you. Stop defending such a horrible human.

Man sues McDonald's for $1.5 million over single napkin

Would you like one million dollars with that?

www.dailyedge.ie

MAGA Kid Sues The Washington Post for $250 Million for Defamation — Best DuPage County Slander Libel and Defamation Attorneys

It may be an uphill battle to win a libel lawsuit against a media organization. First Amendment jurisprudence including New York Times v. Sullivan and its progeny have generally given journalists ...

www.chicagobusinesslitigationlawyerblog.com

 

[TheRam]

He was so f**ken wrong about Sandy Hook. Have a look at some of his arrogant quotes that turned out to be complete and utter bullshit. What a f**ken dill.

Why would you put your faith in someone that is so obviously full of shit? Doesn’t the fact that he was so clearly dribbling shit about Sandy Hook make you question anything he says?

You treat him like some sort of messiah who is right about everything but he’s just a dumb merkin like most people are.

Because if you were to take your time and watch him, you may not agree with him or you may who knows?, but that isn't the point. He never comes at it to hate the everyday people. Just the power hungry evil globalist type. He really want to turn it around and defeat them.

Is he arrogant sure, but he is also very humble, it all depends on where he is at or what he is discussing at any given moment. But Sandy Hook is just a pinky nail shaving of the volume of work that he has done over the years that people are discovering all the time that he was actually right about all along. Why would any Gov want to silence a nutter that preaches peace and peaceful resistance? People would look at his record and say, you know what? He is engaging and all, but I think he is a nutter that is almost always wrong. But the opposite is happening. Why is that? I mean I wouldn't of listened to anyone for nearly 30 years now that was usually wrong. But I actually know stuff days, weeks months and even years before they actually become mainstream. And when it's picked by the MSM after continual denials, it is like it was always the case or true. That's how they roll. deny, deny, deny, then oh you didn't know it's true, its always been the case or we told you about this years ago. Bullsh*t like that.

I would say that his 'right' strike rate is somewhere in the 90% category and unlike the MSM who are now a days in the 90% 'wrong' category he has nothing to be embarrassed about. He is doing the world a massive favour even if people like you don't appreciate it.

If we do by some slim miracle chance defeat the evil Globalist final push, I guarantee that they will build monuments in his honour, to the chagrin of you lot that still sit there in denial.

But that is almost totally unlikely because I think we have already lost. 2030+ baby. It's coming!

 

[TheRam]

Who gives a rats ? It's a stupid country with s stupid legal system.

You can become a millionare because someone serves you a coffee that was too hot.

If you live in a stupid country, you need to be self aware that doing or saying stupid things can cost you. Stop defending such a horrible human.

Man sues McDonald's for $1.5 million over single napkin

Would you like one million dollars with that?

www.dailyedge.ie

MAGA Kid Sues The Washington Post for $250 Million for Defamation — Best DuPage County Slander Libel and Defamation Attorneys

It may be an uphill battle to win a libel lawsuit against a media organization. First Amendment jurisprudence including New York Times v. Sullivan and its progeny have generally given journalists ...

www.chicagobusinesslitigationlawyerblog.com

I love saying this.

I'm not as charitable as Alex Jones.

You're a moron!

 

[King-Gutho94]

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/federal-court-will-establish-a-membership-to-disclose-qantas-chairmans-club-membership/news-story/84ae47be162ddb1e5b937e50d6d44367

Here is my daily Qantas bashing post.

Looks like judges are going to have to disclose there Qantas club memberships moving forward.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Because if you were to take your time and watch him, you may not agree with him or you may who knows?, but that isn't the point. He never comes at it to hate the everyday people. Just the power hungry evil globalist type. He really want to turn it around and defeat them.

Is he arrogant sure, but he is also very humble, it all depends on where he is at or what he is discussing at any given moment. But Sandy Hook is just a pinky nail shaving of the volume of work that he has done over the years that people are discovering all the time that he was actually right about all along. Why would any Gov want to silence a nutter that preaches peace and peaceful resistance? People would look at his record and say, you know what? He is engaging and all, but I think he is a nutter that is almost always wrong. But the opposite is happening. Why is that? I mean I wouldn't of listened to anyone for nearly 30 years now that was usually wrong. But I actually know stuff days, weeks months and even years before they actually become mainstream. And when it's picked by the MSM after continual denials, it is like it was always the case or true. That's how they roll. deny, deny, deny, then oh you didn't know it's true, its always been the case or we told you about this years ago. Bullsh*t like that.

I would say that his 'right' strike rate is somewhere in the 90% category and unlike the MSM who are now a days in the 90% 'wrong' category he has nothing to be embarrassed about. He is doing the world a massive favour even if people like you don't appreciate it.

If we do by some slim miracle chance defeat the evil Globalist final push, I guarantee that they will build monuments in his honour, to the chagrin of you lot that still sit there in denial.

But that is almost totally unlikely because I think we have already lost. 2030+ baby. It's coming!

What will the evil globalist push look like and what will life be like beyond 2030? Give me some specifics.

 

[Gronk]

I guarantee that they will build monuments in his honour

Will they still have lottery tickets in 2030 ?

If so, I bet you a lottery ticket there are no Alex Jones monuments by 2031.

What will the evil globalist push look like and what will life be like beyond 2030? Give me some specifics.

Sounds very 1984.

 

[Twizzle]

Ran out of room on the page.

*tablet