OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Mate I was all for it. Smoked a lotnas a teen but then just the odd joint and not a heap. Recently hooked in for 4mths after about 20yrs where only casual had. Really sent me a bit silly. It isn't for everyone. I was getting quite paranoid and my mood swings become out of control.
Not smoked for 9 weeks now.I won't go back. And this was home grown bud. Trust me if it's a good strain and grown properly it will be as strong as most hydros. Issue is in the 7ps THC level would be about 6-8%. 10-12% was a good strain. No most are over 20% and some 25%, THC. They are 3-4x more potent.
Anyhows I was all for legalising it. Now however I am against it completely.

Sure, but no one should do time for smoking some weed.

if it’s a problem,it’s a health thing.

Regular and heavy doses of THC will probably change your mind into something weird.

This is how we should fund Aborigines. There are three tiers:

1. Aboriginal communities of special need. These are areas of significant disadvantage where money should be concentrated. Government and police should have special intervention powers. Significant education, medical, psychological, and cultural funding should be provided

2. Outside the areas of special need (above), means test everyone identifying as Aboriginal. People should not get tax breaks and funding over and above the normal population simply because they have Aboriginal heritage ie there should be no reason that an Aboriginal bureaucrat in Canberra on 200K should need any further support. In this band, certain special things over and above what the normal population should be funded (where relevant) - eg certain medical treatments. This system is pretty close to what we have for the wider population

3. Aboriginal Heritage Funding. This would be like a grant system where everyone identifying as Aboriginal has the opportunity to apply. All fields of endeavour would be relevant - arts, culture, sport, ideas, inventions, preservation of language, research etc - anything. This system would be merit based and would largely replace the system we have where there everyone identifying gets something

Still not enough detail!

Who decides merit?

Hopefully not Albo, he’d pass anything for votes.

“ A secret womens business rock, yes, I’ll fund a study into that, would $300,000 suffice?”

Dutton would tell you, your didgeridoo is a bong or ancient RPG and illegal. No.

 

[hindy111]

Sure, but no one should do time for smoking some weed.

if it’s a problem,it’s a health thing.

Regular and heavy doses of THC will probably change your mind into something weird.




Still not enough detail!

Who decides merit?

Hopefully not Albo, he’d pass anything for votes.

Dutton would tell you, your didgeridoo is bong. No.

Well if anyones caught with a bit of weed they don't go to gaol. I do not want some merkin driving a semi trailer high on weed

 

[Gary Gutful]

Are there actually any elevators in FNQ?

No. But there are lots of farts looking for one.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Not sure where you’re going with this so difficult to respond.

Just be yourself.

 

[Happy MEel]

Just be yourself.

I think you somewhat agree with what I’ve posted, but sure…

 

[JokerEel]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sydneys-wealthiest-and-least-multicultural-suburbs-the-highest-backers-of-the-voice/news-story/fbea8b60200654302d7f9d7c8beb187f

Makes sense

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Little visitor tonight



Dutton would try to deport him.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sydneys-wealthiest-and-least-multicultural-suburbs-the-highest-backers-of-the-voice/news-story/fbea8b60200654302d7f9d7c8beb187f

Makes sense

Yep, but the urban gentrifiers still want to tell us it's all about white racists, as though white Australians are the only ones with property or anything else worth losing:

"In truth, the 'dangerous innovation' argument is merely a legal fiction for a scare campaign: a Voice, according to the No campaign, is a threat to white Australians — a threat mostly unarticulated, but some particularly racist No campaigners have gone there, saying it will impose reparations, or dispossess Australians of their property."

https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/10/13/australia-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-referendum/

 

[Gary Gutful]

I think you somewhat agree with what I’ve posted, but sure…

 

[Gronk]

But indigenous Australians are heard. Do we still terrorise our aboriginal people here? Do we desicrate their holy sites like they do in Kosovo? Do we still indiscriminately kill them like what the ethnic Albanians do in Kosovo to the minorty Serbs?

It's not even comparable.

Indigenous Australians are heard ? Says who ? White people ? The people who campaign for NO ?

First Nations people are twice as likely to die by suicide than us. Their mortality age is significantly below us. The mortality rate of children under age 5 compared to us is mind blowing.



Their education and employment prospects are significantly poorer.

Closing the Gap targets - Closing the Gap - Australian Indigenous HealthInfoNet

The 17 socioeconomic Closing the Gap targets aim to improve the following outcome areas: health and wellbeing, education, employment, justice, safety, housing, land and waters, languages and digital inclusion . Health and wellbeing Close the gap in life expectancy within a generation by 2031...

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Many would say that they are being ignored.

It may not be death by hand, but if we don't do something about closing the gap and mending their mental health, then you might as well say it is by hand.

If the Serbs in Kosovo had such poor outcomes in life, you would be yelling from the rooftops.

 

[Gronk]

That’s fine mate. You seem to know all the racist and Nazis. Until the last referendum you knew they were all homophobes too.

Sure, Uncle Frank.

 

[Gronk]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/sydneys-wealthiest-and-least-multicultural-suburbs-the-highest-backers-of-the-voice/news-story/fbea8b60200654302d7f9d7c8beb187f

Makes sense

Paywall. Careful @TheRam will road rage you.

 

[Gronk]

Yep, but the urban gentrifiers still want to tell us it's all about white racists, as though white Australians are the only ones with property or anything else worth losing:

"In truth, the 'dangerous innovation' argument is merely a legal fiction for a scare campaign: a Voice, according to the No campaign, is a threat to white Australians — a threat mostly unarticulated, but some particularly racist No campaigners have gone there, saying it will impose reparations, or dispossess Australians of their property."

https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/10/13/australia-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-referendum/

OK the blue bit and the purple bit are not the same. So you're either big cheeky or did not think it through. You have attributed an interpretation of the no campaign propaganda as a social position of the inner city "elites".

 

[strider]

 

[Avenger]

Indigenous Australians are heard ? Says who ? White people ? The people who campaign for NO ?

First Nations people are twice as likely to die by suicide than us. Their mortality age is significantly below us. The mortality rate of children under age 5 compared to us is mind blowing.

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Their education and employment prospects are significantly poorer.

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Closing the Gap targets - Closing the Gap - Australian Indigenous HealthInfoNet

The 17 socioeconomic Closing the Gap targets aim to improve the following outcome areas: health and wellbeing, education, employment, justice, safety, housing, land and waters, languages and digital inclusion . Health and wellbeing Close the gap in life expectancy within a generation by 2031...

healthinfonet.ecu.edu.au

Many would say that they are being ignored.

It may not be death by hand, but if we don't do something about closing the gap and mending their mental health, then you might as well say it is by hand.

If the Serbs in Kosovo had such poor outcomes in life, you would be yelling from the rooftops.

You know nothing about the plight of Serbs in Kosovo so stop comparing. Shit like what’s happening in Palestine is a daily occurrence there. This in your face violence DOES NOT happen to Aboriginal people in Australia.

Again you are virtue signalling from the mean streets of the Eastern Suburbs.

 

[Gronk]

You know nothing about the plight of Serbs in Kosovo so stop comparing. Shit like what’s happening in Palestine is a daily occurrence there. This in your face violence DOES NOT happen to Aboriginal people in Australia.

Again you are virtue signalling from the mean streets of the Eastern Suburbs.

You absolutely ignored what I said and just got angry because my analogy dared to include Serbs in Kosovo.

Marginalised populations that have poor outcomes in any country slip through the cracks. That is my point, as if you didn't know that you f**king hot head.

Are you virtue signalling from the entitled shire because your not a freedom activist on the ground in Pristina ? Of course not because you give a f**k. Stop playing Sydney monopoly merkin, it makes you look like a twit.

 

[JokerEel]

Paywall. Careful @TheRam will road rage you.

News have new numbers showing that mostly Indigenous population actually voted Yes.

I am not trying to be smart but maybe that would have been the best start have polling for the First nation people ask them should they have a representative at the table then once that passed get the nation to vote..

I bet the Yes vote would have won.

 

[Gronk]

News have new numbers showing that mostly Indigenous population actually voted Yes.

I am not trying to be smart but maybe that would have been the best start have polling for the First nation people ask them should they have a representative at the table then once that passed get the nation to vote..

I bet the Yes vote would have won.

Antony Green (election guru) said that all election data is colour blind, so anyone who says they know things like this are fibbing.

There are pockets of Australia that have larger numbers of indigenous voting age citizens however. Thursday Island etc. This thread is very interesting if you scroll through the whole lot.

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[The Silverdale Phantom]

News have new numbers showing that mostly Indigenous population actually voted Yes.

I am not trying to be smart but maybe that would have been the best start have polling for the First nation people ask them should they have a representative at the table then once that passed get the nation to vote..;4

I bet the Yes vote would have won.

No, that’s a very good idea.

If the push seemingly came from elected indigenous constituents, outside of the party political machines, it may have received a better reception.

I voted yes, but I heard a lot of hysterical, and less than sound and emotional arguments that tested my resolve.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

OK the blue bit and the purple bit are not the same. So you're either big cheeky or did not think it through. You have attributed an interpretation of the no campaign propaganda as a social position of the inner city "elites".

It talks about Australians losing their property while in the same paragraph being unable to resist making a comment about the threat to white Australians. You’re the one crying about wedge politics here. It wasn’t just white Australians who rejected the Voice. It was most of us, united.