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Gronk

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In 2016, Trump won the electoral college against Hillary with a 306-232 margin but lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million. Biden then mirrored this result in 2020, defeating Trump 306-232 and securing the popular vote by a similar margin. Now, in 2024, Trump wins with 312-226 and wins the popular vote by 3.7 million—a remarkable turnaround and an official landslide victory.

AI agrees with your analysis. However she reckons you have shot your load early on the numbers.

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The statement contains accurate information about the 2016 and 2020 U.S. presidential elections, but it appears hypothetical or speculative for the 2024 election, as no official result with those exact figures (312-226) has been reported.

1. 2020 Election and COVID-19: The 2020 election was heavily influenced by the COVID-19 pandemic. Public perception of the Trump administration’s handling of the crisis, including controversies over health measures, economic impacts, and vaccine rollout, significantly shaped the election. Many voters felt that the pandemic response was lacking, contributing to high levels of dissatisfaction. Joe Biden’s campaign focused on promising a more science-driven, structured response to the pandemic, which resonated with many voters seeking stability and strong federal action. This helped Biden secure both the popular vote and the Electoral College.

2. 2024 Election and Cost-of-Living Pressures: The economic consequences of the pandemic, followed by rising inflation, supply chain issues, and energy price spikes, have led to widespread cost-of-living pressures. Many voters now identify economic issues—like inflation, housing costs, and general affordability—as top concerns. If there were a change in government in 2024, it could likely reflect voter frustration with the economic challenges faced in recent years. High living costs and perceptions of government efficacy in handling the economy can heavily sway voter decisions, as seen historically.

Together, these factors illustrate how major, real-world crises—like a global pandemic and subsequent economic stress—can drive political change. In each election cycle, voters often look for solutions to pressing issues, resulting in shifts in leadership when the government’s response falls short of public expectations.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I never said it wasn’t chalk and cheese. But the world needs to stand up to tyrants. Not roll over to them because we fear altercation. That plays into their hands.
You might not have to pay the cost of defending Ukraine, but defending Taiwan could certainly impact the value of your assets, including your home. Are you willing to pay it or do you think it will be absorbed by Johnny taxpayer?
 

Gronk

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If he wants some of Ukraine’s territory he needs to concede something he didn’t have before the invasion.
You’ve fallen for the old union strong arm method of negotiating. They make a stupid list of demands including astronomical wage increases, with full intention of a protracted and ugly war, strikes, which costs money and brings nothing but community fatigue and a need for urgent resolution. In the end, your compromise is their win. You’re smiling, shaking hands and probably on the cover of Time.

They think you’re a shit for brain’s pushover. Played.
 

Poupou Escobar

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You’ve fallen for the old union strong arm method of negotiating. They make a stupid list of demands including astronomical wage increases, with full intention of a protracted and ugly war, strikes, which costs money and brings nothing but community fatigue and a need for urgent resolution. In the end, your compromise is their win. You’re smiling, shaking hands and probably on the cover of Time.

They think you’re a shit for brain’s pushover. Played.
This is why he needs to concede something he didn’t have before. NATO membership for Ukraine. I’m personally happy to exchange Crimea for that outcome. It is no skin off my nose.
 
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This is why he needs to concede something he didn’t have before. NATO membership for Ukraine. I’m personally happy to exchange Crimea for that outcome. It is no skin off my nose.
No NATO membership for reasons I’ve covered. It threatens the nuclear balance.

We can offer the ukkies leadership and fearful cadre political asylum in Australia if they want.

Refugee status.
 

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