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millersnose

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It wont help much unless Abbot ,Barnaby,Alan(good Oil)Jones and the rest of the Climate change denialists follow as well.They will probably be happier in a few yrs time living somewhere ,where they are not so well known. Sco Mo too unless he has seen the light (Hallelujah!) by then! I voted for liberals by the way Just didnt follow their preferences as my little protest ..put Greens number two , Clive last.
As far as labours Climate change policies ... Doesnt really matter ,Well meaning or not,they cant manage an economy well enough to successfully implement any Real changes anyway. No one there with half a brain since Keating.
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In a few years time all these climate deniers will have to hide
We needed shorten and his policies to rerurn the climate to a nice one
His electric cars and renewable targets would have reduced the temperature by two degrees and stopped storms
 

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Sadly, the people here who have no idea about science (even though they trust it in all areas that don't undermine their preconceived conceptions, arbitrarily invented by conservatives to protect their mates with mining interests) are perfectly correct in regards to climate change as a political issue.

Which is one reason why democracy, despite being the worst political system except for all the others, may end up destroying modern civilisation.

Climate change is a real concern to many people (the main concern in an otherwise pretty comfortable modern existence for many of us). But it has not captured the imagination of swinging, or "soft" voters.

It is, as Abbott said, a moral issue in wealthier areas, but not an issue likely to concern "working suburbs" where fears for the basics of a sound economy reign.

Policy to limit the damage of climate change will obviously be opposed by the wilfully ignorant, but the job of progressives in Australia (not in many parts of the world, where conservatives are well on board as well, and the issue is whether direct intervention or market driven solutions are best) is to properly sell the urgent need for action on climate change.

In that regard, the scoffing here of the rusted on conservatives is perfectly valid. Shorten did a very poor job of selling the need for action on climate change, and Get Up also did a very poor job (except maybe helping unseat Abbot, who was out of step with his electorate anyway).

Shorten was also, I agree, a poor choice as leader. The character assassination from blatant abuse of the tools of the state from Abbott may have helped build upon a distrust of Shorten, but his own hand in killing two PMs already meant he was damaged goods. Though Dutton didn't seem to get the same sort of punishment as Abbott or Shorten in that regard.

When a man who is celebrated for his role in locking up children, who can parade coal through parliament like a toy to mock the most serious threat to our grandchildren imaginable, can win when our economy is stagnant and his party of old white men has spent years attacking itself, is the biggest indictment of the progressive parties imaginable.

Like with Trump, the progressives can't just wait for their opponent to trip over. They have to clearly articulate the threats of inaction on climate change, and the danger of a world driven by xenophobia. And then they have to offer a clear alternative and a vision for a better future than the war and terror we face at the moment.
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Democracy is going to destroy us all

Only smart and morally superior people like wibble can see it

If only we had a left greens ogliarchy to make us live correctly we could make the weather nice and get rid of nasty mining

Anyone who disagrees is a science denier
 

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In a few years time all these climate deniers will have to hide
We needed shorten and his policies to rerurn the climate to a nice one
His electric cars and renewable targets would have reduced the temperature by two degrees and stopped storms
And droughts ?
 
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In a few years time all these climate deniers will have to hide
We needed shorten and his policies to rerurn the climate to a nice one
His electric cars and renewable targets would have reduced the temperature by two degrees and stopped storms


If you are addressing my post you either didnt read it or understand it.,or both. No surprises there . Sorry I interrupted the denialists circle jerk. Always resisted even attempting to address all the ad hominens , non secateurs, irrelevant and out of context "facts ",diversions ,attempts at clever sarcasm ",last man talking wins", false assertions and outright lies y'all get off on ,and think so clever. . Temptation got the best of me and I regret it Anyway ,Carry on . I wont upset youse anymore. You win!! Group hug now! ! Few years ??? nah !!! I think your sao is ready now! enjoy!
 

Quigs

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As long as ScMo delivers on his promises the Socialists could have Bat Man as their leader and they still won’t win the next election.

Yeppers that's right. As long as he delivers.

Four days in .... four days !!!! and those promised tax cuts for low and middle class "us" have been put back 12 months.

Oh yeah and Fat Clives got his biggerer and betterer mine (next to Adani) approved too. The decision was made prior to the election but only just surfacing now.
 

millersnose

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Bloody denialists
Denying Australia’s ability to affect the weather with carbon credit purchases from uzbekistan and electric cars
 

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The different aspects are measurable, and the analytical and statistical tests are proven across many fields,for many years Complex ,sure.... that is one reason the word "Consensus " is important But hey if you want to ignore what we already know for fifty years go right ahead . Build your house on a cliff overlooking the ocean. Beautiful views, No worries! Worth a fortune in 50 yrs cause only smart guys like you will be doing that.
Wait for Quantum Computing! LOL!


It doesn’t seem to stop politicians buying waterfront properties.
 

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In a few years time all these climate deniers will have to hide
We needed shorten and his policies to rerurn the climate to a nice one
His electric cars and renewable targets would have reduced the temperature by two degrees and stopped storms

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We don't need to think about environmental declines even though our childrens children will inherit the place, after all we only are a small percentage compared to the main polluters like US and China. So lets burn more fossil fuels its great getting backhanders from the mega rich companies that pay no tax so we can look the other way while we look better on paper. No need to look into the future, we're as good as gold /thumbsup
 
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Yeppers that's right. As long as he delivers.

Four days in .... four days !!!! and those promised tax cuts for low and middle class "us" have been put back 12 months.

Oh yeah and Fat Clives got his biggerer and betterer mine (next to Adani) approved too. The decision was made prior to the election but only just surfacing now.

Even if Parliament doesn’t get the legislation done in time the ATO has already said it can implement them for this year. So there will be NO 12 month wait.

And......Never thought it was a crime to get a mine approved?

Hey Quigs did you see the QLD Premier with her Hard Hat and High Vis Jacket yesterday? Apparently she can’t understand what’s the hold up on the Adani Mine????? She wants a timetable sorted within 2 weeks and wants to have a meeting with the Adani boss.

Nek Minute.... Adani boss says we’ve been waiting for 2 years for a meeting. Fancy that!!!!!

Now do you reckon the QLD Premier shat herself or pissed herself after the Federal Election result in QLD???? Liberals having 24 of the 30 QLD seats might have a little to do with it.........
 
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Am I the only one, that everytime they read a climate cultists warning on 10 years until doom, t(hats been happening since the 80's) , automatically says under my breath "another 48 hrs" ?


Nahh!! you are not even the only one whose already figured out that its all a Hoax and will never Happen . Why do we need Quantum computers when we have mental Giants like you ?We dont even need scientists.!We have Ds and "the majority "to speak the truth!And as Surely said weve got Politicians living on the coast to sing out if anythings happening there. Ill sleep soundly tonight , no worries! Well maybe ill spare a little thought for poor wittle Millers cause that mean old Wibble hurt his feewings .
 
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With the news albo looks likely to take over I think you can lock in scomo for another term. Beautiful.
It would be a miracle if Scomo lasts 3 years. Probably better odds Jesus returns. Tony Abbotts ghost walks.

House prices will go through the roof by this time next year so all you land lords start collecting.
 
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