OT: NRL blocks Greg Inglis' Rabbitoh move

[Suitman]

much like the EPL

the rich get richer and the poor get demoted, much like the Barcodes

You'll have to try harder than that buddy. :lol:

Suity

 

[Eels Dude]

in my opinion a points system is unfair unless it allows a heavy discount for long term one club players.

It will also signal the death knell for several clubs as the clubs will not be able to resist the temptation to pay top dollar to secure a player and not have the finances to back it up. The richer clubs will have first dibs at the better players.

There's too many variables with a points system too. I don't think you could ever come up with a system that was completely fair.

 

[Suitman]

There's too many variables with a points system too. I don't think you could ever come up with a system that was completely fair.

Agreed. I think that's why the NRL are so persistant with enforcing this system.

Suity

 

[PJ Marshal]

You'll have to try harder than that buddy. :lol:

Suity

lol or in spurs case , be rich , win nothing

 

[Eelementary]

SBW was clearly a lost cause, but Inglis is different. No doubt there is some aspect of greed there but I can't stand it when the NRL sends the clear message that they don't care if a player leaves the game.

I see what you're saying. But I hardly think it's fair that the NRL is blamed, or accused of not caring, and only because it's Greg Inglis instead of Greg Drake.

I hate the fact the "elite" players in sport can get away with blue murder - they can threaten to leave a code; they can act like total douches; they can play like sh*t...But still people will excuse it because they are the elite of the elite, and people pay good biccies to watch them play.

It's an insult IMO.

If Inglis left, there'd be an uproar that the NRL didn't do enough to keep the greedy little sh*t. But what if Luke Burt wanted to leave the NRL? Or Ben Hornby? Blokes who have been loyal to their clubs, fans and the sport for years but are hardly "superstars"? The NRL would do jack. But they're expected to help in the SBW and Inglis cases because it's SBW and Inglis.

As talented as those two are, I am dead serious - give me Luke Burt and Nathan Hindmarsh over those two any day of the week. They're great ambassadors of this wonderful club, they are great role models for kids off the field and they go about their business without fuss.

 

[dazeely]

Bye bye inglis.

 

[boxhead]

lol or in spurs case , be rich , win nothing

It doesn't take a genius to figure out Spurs are the team that always is hanging around, haven't won in a while sure but they are always up there.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Agreed. I think that's why the NRL are so persistant with enforcing this system.

Suity

The ONLY exclusion being News Limited NRL and those 5 year cheats down south. :crazy::crazy:

 

[Casper The Ghost]

I see what you're saying. But I hardly think it's fair that the NRL is blamed, or accused of not caring, and only because it's Greg Inglis instead of Greg Drake.

I hate the fact the "elite" players in sport can get away with blue murder - they can threaten to leave a code; they can act like total douches; they can play like sh*t...But still people will excuse it because they are the elite of the elite, and people pay good biccies to watch them play.

It's an insult IMO.

If Inglis left, there'd be an uproar that the NRL didn't do enough to keep the greedy little sh*t. But what if Luke Burt wanted to leave the NRL? Or Ben Hornby? Blokes who have been loyal to their clubs, fans and the sport for years but are hardly "superstars"? The NRL would do jack. But they're expected to help in the SBW and Inglis cases because it's SBW and Inglis.

As talented as those two are, I am dead serious - give me Luke Burt and Nathan Hindmarsh over those two any day of the week. They're great ambassadors of this wonderful club, they are great role models for kids off the field and they go about their business without fuss.

The belief in an elite, like Inglis & SBW, bringing extra bums on seats compromises the integrity of a game that should, for the greater good of all, be rejoicing with all of the many great players who grace/d our game.. Luke Burt, Hindmarsh, being examples. The power is with the fans as they are those bums on seats who also buy NRL approved merchandise. Fans love their superstars and it's the fans paying $$$$ where all the power resides. The System the NRL represents can't fix this problem, BUT the fans can. But will the fans come-together to fix it???

 

[born an eel]

The belief in an elite, like Inglis & SBW, bringing extra bums on seats compromises the integrity of a game that should, for the greater good of all, be rejoicing with all of the many great players who grace/d our game.. Luke Burt, Hindmarsh, being examples. The power is with the fans as they are those bums on seats who also buy NRL approved merchandise. Fans love their superstars and it's the fans paying $$$$ where all the power resides. The System the NRL represents can't fix this problem, BUT the fans can. But will the fans come-together to fix it???

I believe the fans do not hold those so called superstars as high as the media do, did we see a noticeable drop in fan numbers after SBW left, will fan numbers decrease if Inglis is not around next year?

People turn up to see the players who wear their club colours, no matter who they are.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

I disagree. Why go out of your way to keep someone who has no interest staying?

TBH we've already seen blokes come through that are "the next SBW" - Mateo (inconsistent but just as talented), Sutton (perhaps not as talented as SBW but still very good), Filiga ....

SBW was a freak but I don't see why the NRL should have stepped in to suck up to him just because he is a greedy little sh*t who had no honour.

These elite players know they have huge fan/merchandise pulling power, compliments of "The System" that allows this to happen. These modern gladiators want to earn as much dosh as possible for punishing their bodies - in "The System," they (family etc) want to be set up for life without a care for commerce looking after a body of pain that continues to haunt them all the way to the grave.

If he is good enough to get it I don't begrudge SBW earning big bucks - millions of $$$ are just sedatives numbing a life-time of physical and emotional pain, surviving in "The System".

My issue with all of this is that all 10 year+ NRL (heavy contact sport) 1st grade players should be set up for life. "The System" sucks as it's designed to cater for a privileged few = "The System" of dog eats dog, survival of the smartest between the ears - There is no mould for uniqueness but everyone is forced to compete in a one shoe fits all policy/system that suits ONLY those with that X factor character trait. "The System" is very unforgiving to the billions excluded for not having the X factor. How do you value a 75 year old woman with one leg and one arm who is brilliant with children and has vast knowledge in organic gardening, preserving food naturally without losing much of its life-force against an economist whose brilliance with figure, his only skill, earns him a fortune? Is he worth more than the woman whose skills will earn her very little in $$$$ terms but is so essential to the wellbeing of the community and the generations to come.???

 

[Casper The Ghost]

I believe the fans do not hold those so called superstars as high as the media do, did we see a noticeable drop in fan numbers after SBW left, will fan numbers decrease if Inglis is not around next year?

People turn up to see the players who wear their club colours, no matter who they are.

Agreed, but this does not negate what I am saying. Our views are intertwined. The fans love to support their team but even more come to watch Jarryd Hayne win those most important games with his X factor. And the fans do have ALL the power. They have to learn to use it instead of being used and abused, manipulated by a very few whose interests are often not the fans best interests.

 

[Eelementary]

These elite players know they have huge fan/merchandise pulling power, compliments of "The System" that allows this to happen. These modern gladiators want to earn as much dosh as possible for punishing their bodies - in "The System," they (family etc) want to be set up for life without a care for commerce looking after a body of pain that continues to haunt them all the way to the grave.

If he is good enough to get it I don't begrudge SBW earning big bucks - millions of $$$ are just sedatives numbing a life-time of physical and emotional pain, surviving in "The System".

My issue with all of this is that all 10 year+ NRL (heavy contact sport) 1st grade players should be set up for life. "The System" sucks as it's designed to cater for a privileged few = "The System" of dog eats dog, survival of the smartest between the ears - There is no mould for uniqueness but everyone is forced to compete in a one shoe fits all policy/system that suits ONLY those with that X factor character trait. "The System" is very unforgiving to the billions excluded for not having the X factor. How do you value a 75 year old woman with one leg and one arm who is brilliant with children and has vast knowledge in organic gardening, preserving food naturally without losing much of its life-force against an economist whose brilliance with figure, his only skill, earns him a fortune? Is he worth more than the woman whose skills will earn her very little in $$$$ terms but is so essential to the wellbeing of the community and the generations to come.???

I don't buy into that argument that "they put their bodies on the line for 10 to 15 years so they deserve big bucks." Usually after their playing careers are done they go straight into their next jobs without hassle.

Compare that to your average Joe, such as myself, to use an example, who works 60 hours a week to barely scrape $30,000 p.a. out of their employer and has GENUINE stresses of not being able to afford basic necessities...

Sports stars need to get off their high horse and stop thinking the world owes them everything. Even a "measly" $100,000 p.a. is way more than I will ever see in my lifetime, at this rate. It sickens me that they whinge about sh*t like that.

 

[Eelementary]

The belief in an elite, like Inglis & SBW, bringing extra bums on seats compromises the integrity of a game that should, for the greater good of all, be rejoicing with all of the many great players who grace/d our game.. Luke Burt, Hindmarsh, being examples. The power is with the fans as they are those bums on seats who also buy NRL approved merchandise. Fans love their superstars and it's the fans paying $$$$ where all the power resides. The System the NRL represents can't fix this problem, BUT the fans can. But will the fans come-together to fix it???

IMO the fans won't be able to do anything until the powers that be (News Ltd, for one) f**k right off and leave the game be. The game should be run by fans, for fans. It's a big dream, but not impossible.

Players should earn bug bucks - why not? I'd say it's most people's dreams to get paid big biccies for doing what they love. But when they start dicking around for an extra $100,000 to $200,000 per season when they already earn half a million a year is just an insult to every working class person IMHO.

They work hard and they batter their bodies, true. But fair dinkum - how hard can it be? I mean honestly? There are no skills involved other than their sporting skills. You don't have to be able to be amicable or personable; you don't have to have good business acumen' you don't have to go out of your way to build business relationships; and you certainly don't have to work too hard to find "life after footy" because invariably they will have something fall into their laps, whether it's a media deal, a coaching gig or work within the club itself.

Compare that to people who work - they shed their blood, sweat and tears - for 50-60 hours a week and display all sorts of skill - salesmanship, people skills, strong work ethic, etc. and get paid 10% of what these people do. I don't hold it against them that they get paid a lot, but I do get very angry when they whinge and complain that $600,000 per annum is not enough - that they could get $1,000,000 playing union. Yeah, a mill a year is a truckload of money. But you show me a few things when yo whinge like that:

(1) you have no love for the game;

(2) why are you entitled to act like that just because you're an athlete?;

(3) it really shows why these guys are playing football (because they have no other skills whatsoever).

I know my opinion will not necessarily be popular - that I'll be met with calls of, "That's the way it is." I know that. It doesn't mean I have to accept it. It sickens me that sporting stars around the world earn boatloads of money and then have the gall to whinge that they get underpaid.

/rant

Screw Inglis tbh. Greedy little bastard.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

I don't buy into that argument that "they put their bodies on the line for 10 to 15 years so they deserve big bucks." Usually after their playing careers are done they go straight into their next jobs without hassle.

Compare that to your average Joe, such as myself, to use an example, who works 60 hours a week to barely scrape $30,000 p.a. out of their employer and has GENUINE stresses of not being able to afford basic necessities...

Sports stars need to get off their high horse and stop thinking the world owes them everything. Even a "measly" $100,000 p.a. is way more than I will ever see in my lifetime, at this rate. It sickens me that they whinge about sh*t like that.

As to "The System" and your circumstances in it and your perspectives derived from your experience performing in it, I agree with everything you say, it sucks, it's unfair and only causes harm out of which comes more harm and more harm and more harm............... and the harm cascades into many levels of unfairness - the worst being that every man, woman and child who have an inherent creators right to a piece of land to grow food with clean fresh water available on it and a roof over their heads are deprived from this. No one should be denied these most basic needs of LIFE To live without the fear of ever losing the land (stolen or not), or slave for this land (as in debt/taxes etc) and being able to pass it on to your children & their children and their children is essential. This solves more than 90% of all the problems we have with "The System" and will solve most of the NRL system problems as well as SBW issues.

 

[Eelementary]

As to "The System" and your circumstances in it and your perspectives derived from your experience performing in it, I agree with everything you say, it sucks, it's unfair and only causes harm out of which comes more harm and more harm and more harm............... and the harm cascades into many levels of unfairness - the worst being that every man, woman and child who have an inherent creators right to a piece of land to grow food with clean fresh water available on it and a roof over their heads are deprived from this. No one should be denied these most basic needs of LIFE To live without the fear of ever losing the land (stolen or not), or slave for this land (as in debt/taxes etc) and being able to pass it on to your children & their children and their children is essential. This solves more than 90% of all the problems we have with "The System" and will solve most of the NRL system problems as well as SBW issues.

I agree.

And I want to add I am not afraid of hard work. I am proud of having a strong work ethic.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

IMO the fans won't be able to do anything until the powers that be (News Ltd, for one) f**k right off and leave the game be. The game should be run by fans, for fans. It's a big dream, but not impossible.

Players should earn bug bucks - why not? I'd say it's most people's dreams to get paid big biccies for doing what they love. But when they start dicking around for an extra $100,000 to $200,000 per season when they already earn half a million a year is just an insult to every working class person IMHO.

They work hard and they batter their bodies, true. But fair dinkum - how hard can it be? I mean honestly? There are no skills involved other than their sporting skills. You don't have to be able to be amicable or personable; you don't have to have good business acumen' you don't have to go out of your way to build business relationships; and you certainly don't have to work too hard to find "life after footy" because invariably they will have something fall into their laps, whether it's a media deal, a coaching gig or work within the club itself.

Compare that to people who work - they shed their blood, sweat and tears - for 50-60 hours a week and display all sorts of skill - salesmanship, people skills, strong work ethic, etc. and get paid 10% of what these people do. I don't hold it against them that they get paid a lot, but I do get very angry when they whinge and complain that $600,000 per annum is not enough - that they could get $1,000,000 playing union. Yeah, a mill a year is a truckload of money. But you show me a few things when yo whinge like that:

(1) you have no love for the game;

(2) why are you entitled to act like that just because you're an athlete?;

(3) it really shows why these guys are playing football (because they have no other skills whatsoever).

I know my opinion will not necessarily be popular - that I'll be met with calls of, "That's the way it is." I know that. It doesn't mean I have to accept it. It sickens me that sporting stars around the world earn boatloads of money and then have the gall to whinge that they get underpaid.

/rant

Screw Inglis tbh. Greedy little bastard.

Your sentiments are reciprocated. "The System" is f**ked but we are responsible for it's presence. Without us giving it our energy it would fade away and die. But nothing will happen until the people (slaves) at large wake up to what is really going on and actually do something about getting rid of "The System". Get rid of "The System" and the greed and selfish issues behind Greg Inglis & SBW will quickly fade away as well.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

I agree.

And I want to add I am not afraid of hard work. I am proud of having a strong work ethic.

As most of us are. Give everyone the opportunity to have freedom (l1 hectare of land each, with water and a roof over their heads) and they will work their land like the hours you put in now. Much better than f**king slaving for a system that f**ks over billions of us and benefits only a few.

Even better is when we recreate our lands into food forests, then once established our labour is very minimal because food forests take care of themselves, they are LIFE-sustainable. This frees us up to contemplate on LIFE, to rejoice in LIFE without all the bullsh*t system addictions hanging over our heads beckoning for a fix by the day.

In our website do an in-house Google for this: Videos: Greening The Desert + Other Videos - We Can Grow Gardens Everywhere And They Will Solve All Our Problems - if we can reclaim the desert around the dead sea, this is land full of salt imagine what we can do here on Gondwanaland!!!! And while at it scroll down the home page and check out how a 3 acre block in a very cold climate in the USA is producing 1 million pounds of organic food per year mainly inside green houses kept warm by compost. f**king incredible: Video: 1 MILLION Pounds Of Food On 3 Acres - 10,000 Fish 500 Yards Compost - 5 Minutes 43 Seconds

 

[Casper The Ghost]

double post - sorry

 

[mrpwnd]

I wouldn't mind being a footballer...Getting paid to go do some weights, exercise and whack a few blokes about certainly sounds more enticing than a part time stint as an assistant to a photographer, let's not forget the publicity too.

Fair enough they put their bodies on the line and get injured, but any job that offers publicity is certainly better than what the average nuffy would ever be.