OT: The official "Put Sh!t on Ricky HERE" thread

[lucablight]

Sticky presser

To be fair, I f**king hate it when teams are happy to concede penalties on their tryline. There is virtually zero downside and heaps of benefit to it.

Needs more sin-bin.

Having to defend 6 more tackles or concede a penalty goal isn't a huge downside?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Having to defend 6 more tackles or concede a penalty goal isn't a huge downside?

They obviously don't concede the penalty when two points would matter. And it's up to the frustrated (and often desperate) attacking team to complete the set, otherwise you only have to defend as many tackles as they can hang onto the ball. There's no guarantee it'll be another six tackles.

 

[lucablight]

They obviously don't concede the penalty when two points would matter. And it's up to the frustrated (and often desperate) attacking team to complete the set, otherwise you only have to defend as many tackles as they can hang onto the ball. There's no guarantee it'll be another six tackles.

Don't know about you but I'd rather be constantly attacking the opposition try line rather than being tired out and possibly conceding a try defending my own.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Don't know about you but I'd rather be constantly attacking the opposition try line rather than being tired out and possibly conceding a try defending my own.

Don't know about you but I'd rather have my defensive line well set at every play-the-ball. Don't forget, it's not a penalty every time you hold down, just every time the ref blows the whistle. As you concede more penalties the ref is less inclined to penalise each new infringement. Note also, you're not risking a penalty on every tackle, just the ones you can't slow legally.

It comes down to a cost-benefit analysis - a slow opposition play-the-ball every time versus just a small chance of a penalty (and that chance reducing as the penalty count rises).

And did you know the most heavily penalised team in the comp were premiers last year?

 

[lucablight]

Don't know about you but I'd rather have my defensive line well set at every play-the-ball. Don't forget, it's not a penalty every time you hold down, just every time the ref blows the whistle. As you concede more penalties the ref is less inclined to penalise each new infringement. Note also, you're not risking a penalty on every tackle, just the ones you can't slow legally.

It comes down to a cost-benefit analysis - a slow opposition play-the-ball every time versus just a small chance of a penalty (and that chance reducing as the penalty count rises).

And did you know the most heavily penalised team in the comp were premiers last year?

That's a very cynical way of looking at things. One would hope excessive holding down tactics would lead to a player being sin binned rather than what you are suggesting. For what you are suggesting to be true the defending team would have to be a very strong defensive team anyway and the referees very inept to make giving away a penalty a so called advantage.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That's a very cynical way of looking at things. One would hope excessive holding down tactics would lead to a player being sin binned rather than what you are suggesting. For what you are suggesting to be true the defending team would have to be a very strong defensive team anyway and the referees very inept to make giving away a penalty a so called advantage.

You'd think so, hey?

Look, it only works if the team is able to defend well in the first place (at least off a slow play-the-ball). We held down plenty as well the past couple of years (deliberately) and we couldn't cope when possession mounted against us.

It's a credit to the Chooks that they do what works for them. It certainly doesn't work for everyone, but I've seen it work very well against us by a few other teams too.

 

[hineyrulz]

Melbourne has been using the same ploy for ages as well.

 

[Pete Cash]

That's a very cynical way of looking at things. One would hope excessive holding down tactics would lead to a player being sin binned rather than what you are suggesting. For what you are suggesting to be true the defending team would have to be a very strong defensive team anyway and the referees very inept to make giving away a penalty a so called advantage.

Not to interrupt your Stuart hate parade but that's his point. That players aren't being sin binned for cynical infringements.

 

[The EELiminator]

i can see how giving away a penalty instead of a try can seem good on paper and the fact the biggest exponents of this ploy are the premiers would seem to support it

but you are giving the other team a full set of six right in front of your goal line and if they get a dropout or you give away another penalty to avoid a try its another set...and another set...and another set

unless you can get the ball off them somehow eventually they WILL score and how many tackles will you have made by then?
if they are in front how much time will you have left to claw the lead back?

 

[84 Baby]

Melbourne has been using the same ploy for ages as well.

And Queensland

 

[The EELiminator]

And Queensland

no surprise there melbourne ARE queensland

 

[Wizard Sleeve]

best since gibson?

lets not forget Mossop and he had Hock over the line as well.

I dont know why but it seems like a lot of parra fans have written Mossop off before he has even played a game for us. the hate for him on the other site is immense! i personally can't wait to see what Mossop brings to the table, i hope he is a tireless worker in defence just like Peats.

:doubt: hate eh . Someone's telling porkies .

 

[Pete Cash]

i can see how giving away a penalty instead of a try can seem good on paper and the fact the biggest exponents of this ploy are the premiers would seem to support it

but you are giving the other team a full set of six right in front of your goal line and if they get a dropout or you give away another penalty to avoid a try its another set...and another set...and another set

unless you can get the ball off them somehow eventually they WILL score and how many tackles will you have made by then?
if they are in front how much time will you have left to claw the lead back?

It depends on the ream mate. You'd probably not want to do it against a firing north Queensland but the raiders are poor in the halves and hooker (not exactly Stuart's fault) so forcing the raiders to play as structured as possible isn't a bad idea. Plus you are only giving away a hypothetical set of six. On one of those penalties a frustrated Canberra made an error and turned the ball over on tackle one.

I can see both sides. It is a little silly to bitch about free possession but the refs should also be willing to use the sin bin for cynical play.

 

[phantom eel]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e-of-nrl-reality/story-fni3fbgz-1226895324783

Ricky Stuart has signed on to front a new reality TV show that sets out to unearth the next NRL superstar.

Sport Confidential: Canberra Raiders coach Ricky Stuart the face of NRL reality

Josh Massoud and James Hooper
The Daily Telegraph
April 25, 2014 12:00AM

Ricky Stuart will head up a new reality TV show. Source: Supplied

EXACTLY one year ago at Parramatta, Ricky Stuart made pay-TV history when he allowed Fox Sports cameras and microphones to lift the lid on his entire match day against Gold Coast.

Now Stuart has gone a step further on the small screen, signing on to front a new reality TV show that sets out to unearth the next NRL superstar.

Dubbed ‘‘The Coach’’, the series is scheduled to screen on Fox Sports during the upcoming off-season, pitting 15 hopefuls in a winner-takes-all contest for a full-time contract.

Ricky Stuart is the coach. Source: Supplied

Like Donald Trump in The Apprentice — except with his own hair — Stuart will have the final say on the winner, as well as weekly eliminations.

The show has been in the works for the best part of a year, with Stuart agreeing to take the lead role shortly after he joined Canberra last October.

Executive producer Mike Gencher told us the former Test and NSW Origin mentor was head-hunted for the role because of his footballing pedigree and straight-shooting demeanour.

“Ricky is a guy who’s played at every level of the game,” Gencher said.

“Like him or not, he’s also a captivating character who commands attention and respect. He also tells it straight and that’s what you want from a good coach in any sport. That brings the game to life, which is also great entertainment for people watching on TV.”

Applications were sent out to all corners of the rugby league world on Thursday night.

Apart from an edict that all contestants be over 18, there are no limits on experience, background or geography.

Over eight weeks, the final 15 will be reduced in tandem with an eclectic array of challenges, including boxing, wrestling, paintball and even public speaking.

“As well as great athletes, we want to attract people with great stories because this show is all about telling the story of what it takes to make it in rugby league,” Gencher said.

“They might be from the city, the bush, or even overseas. They might be from another sport altogether. As long as they’ve got talent and a great story to tell, we’ll give them a shot.”

An initial shortlist of 100 contestants will be invited to a camp at Leichhardt Oval on Friday, June 13, the week of Canberra’s first bye.

Stuart will select the 15-strong cast on that day, with the bulk of the series to be shot at the University of New England in Armidale as soon as the Raiders are eliminated.

Head of Fox Sports Gary Burns said the precise format and screening time would be negotiated around Stuart’s availability.

There are plans for a 7.30pm weeknight timeslot, followed by immediate repeats two hours later, in keeping with the programming of the network’s other magazine NRL shows.

“We’d like to screen it between October and November, but it will depend on Ricky,” Burns said.

“We obviously want to reveal the winner live, so he can start training with the given club as soon as possible.”

The Bulldogs, Roosters, Panthers, Storm and Raiders have all expressed interest in taking on the winner, whose $75,000 contract will be salary cap exempt.

League great Steve Mortimer has also agreed to be involved, and Burns said his current stable of ex-players — Matty Johns, Gorden Tallis, Nathan Hindmarsh, Bryan Fletcher and Peter Sterling — could feature as well.

Didn't bother with the other three promo pictures from the article.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What a top idea. Will watch for sure.

 

[Suitman]

What a top idea. Will watch for sure.

Me too. Looks great.

Thanks Bart for the heads up.

Suity

 

[natheel]

Looks like a good concept. Would've been good to have a coach like Wayne Bennet involved but Sticky is good in terms of media etc

 

[strider]

As long as they’ve got talent and a great story to tell, we’ll give them a shot.

takes more than talent these days ..... gotta have a good sob story too

The Bulldogs, Roosters, Panthers, Storm and Raiders have all expressed interest in taking on the winner, whose $75,000 contract will be salary cap exempt.

lol - never look a good cap evasion technique in the mouth

 

[Gary Gutful]

I'll definitely watch this.

 

[Bigfella]

I wonder how big the overhead projector for the eliminations will be?