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Ownership of being wrong thread 2018

age.s

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Who cares whether Maloney or Moylan plays marginally better in Friday night's abortion. 44-18 stinks pretty much as badly as 50.

The Panthers iteration of Moylan wouldn't have taken his rehab seriously enough to be on the park so we would have had Luai at 6 and Aekins at the back. Chalk me up in the Moylan = improvement camp I guess.
 

Pomoz

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Bullshit.

Moylan has never been in a team that conceded 50 points, he's a better defender and has created far more points this season then Maloney. That's all fact.

No way to know if he makes much or any difference against Broncos. But there's zero chance we defend worse or have less in attack with Moylan.

Facts which are all easily proven.
Yes, he has created more this year. He is in a better, more experienced team, so he should. The facts, as you put it, are that when he was in our team last year we were the worst team in the NRL in the red zone for converting points. He was part of that team. I think Maloney has more ticker than Moylan, you disagree, you have no facts to prove your point, it is just your opinion as is mine. When we needed Moylan in the semi's last year he wasn't there, didn't do rehab and let the team down.

Fair weather footballers are nice and all that, but you also want people who will be there when the team is going badly and will turn up and put a shift in. If a player makes mistakes but tries his hardest, I can live with that. In my view, the Brisbane game would have seen Moylan crabbing sideways until the forwards were smashed into Caxton street. Maloney hit the line, bad ankle and all and got smashed many times. He tried his guts out but it just wasn't happening for him. It happens.

Being in a team that concedes fifty points doesn't make you a bad player and vice versa. The Storm lost 40 nil to Manly in the grand final, were they a bad team? Were the players in that team awful? Billy Slater says hi.
 
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Matthew Ellis

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Moylan had a absolutely great 2014 not so great 2015.
A good 2016, not so good 2017.

At Penrith he had periods of red hot runs like he's doing at the Sharks. That and he would fade in and out games. Like that Raiders game, his two tries in two minutes was brilliant but was very quiet for 75 minutes in that game. His issue has always been consistency. We'll see if can keep it up for the Sharks.

I think we're being a bit nostalgic when it comes to Moylan, yes he's in better form at the moment but out halves when Sharks won the premiership it was Maloney that carried Chad Towsend like he carried Pearce before that. Ennis said Maloney looks like he's playing not at 100% and considering how well he knows him I'm inclined to believe. If gets fit I wouldn't underestimate him.

Who knows if Moylan would act motivated like he is right now or if he'd be the Moylan that slacked off on his rehab like he did last year. And what precedence would it set if gave in to what one player and sacked the coach because he didn't get along?
 
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OldPanther

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Moylan had a absolutely great 2014 not so great 2015.
A good 2016, not so good 2017.

At Penrith he had periods of red hot runs like he's doing at the Sharks. That and he would fade in and out games. Like that Raiders game, his two tries in two minutes was brilliant but was very quiet for 75 minutes in that game. His issue has always been consistency. We'll see if can keep it up for the Sharks.

2017 - 2015 he was injured though. He also scored a try earlier in that Raiders game as well as the 2 try assists at the end.
 

betcats

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Yes, he has created more this year. He is in a better, more experienced team, so he should. The facts, as you put it, are that when he was in our team last year we were the worst team in the NRL in the red zone for converting points. He was part of that team. I think Maloney has more ticker than Moylan, you disagree, you have no facts to prove your point, it is just your opinion as is mine. When we needed Moylan in the semi's last year he wasn't there, didn't do rehab and let the team down.

Fair weather footballers are nice and all that, but you also want people who will be there when the team is going badly and will turn up and put a shift in. If a player makes mistakes but tries his hardest, I can live with that. In my view, the Brisbane game would have seen Moylan crabbing sideways until the forwards were smashed into Caxton street. Maloney hit the line, bad ankle and all and got smashed many times. He tried his guts out but it just wasn't happening for him. It happens.

Being in a team that concedes fifty points doesn't make you a bad player and vice versa. The Storm lost 40 nil to Manly in the grand final, were they a bad team? Were the players in that team awful? Billy Slater says hi.

Mate was moylan being a fair weather player when he dragged the sharks to a win over us two weeks ago? They weren’t the better team that night. We could’ve used a performance like that from one of our halves last week, instead what did we get?

Even with a f**ked attitude last year Moylan never put together a performance for penrith like Maloney did last week. Yet the far more experienced and expensive player is allowed to play like that because he’s a little frustrated? Please.

Anyway shit went sour and he’s gone. But he is a far more talented player than either Maloney or Cleary and right now is in much better form. I hope he never really gets his head straight because it’s is really going to suck for us if he does.

Moylan carved teams up and won games for us on his own regularly. Remember his clutch conversions and field goals? Players with no ticker don’t stand up like that as much as moylan did for us.
 

betcats

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Come finals time if the sharks are still fit Moyza is going to be a problem.

Flanno is pretty good at getting them ready for the pointy end of the season.
 

Aliceinwonderland

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Mate was moylan being a fair weather player when he dragged the sharks to a win over us two weeks ago? They weren’t the better team that night. We could’ve used a performance like that from one of our halves last week, instead what did we get?

Even with a f**ked attitude last year Moylan never put together a performance for penrith like Maloney did last week. Yet the far more experienced and expensive player is allowed to play like that because he’s a little frustrated? Please.

Anyway shit went sour and he’s gone. But he is a far more talented player than either Maloney or Cleary and right now is in much better form. I hope he never really gets his head straight because it’s is really going to suck for us if he does.

Moylan carved teams up and won games for us on his own regularly. Remember his clutch conversions and field goals? Players with no ticker don’t stand up like that as much as moylan did for us.








Did Maloney ever play with such an injury as what Maloney has had. I get it that would think Moylan is God's first born son and all of that. But he's no longer in a Panther's jersey and that is the team I support.
 

OldPanther

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Did Maloney ever play with such an injury as what Maloney has had. I get it that would think Moylan is God's first born son and all of that. But he's no longer in a Panther's jersey and that is the team I support.

Last year we beat the Titans with Moylan scoring a try while his hammy was busted.
 

OldPanther

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&08m

You really need to get over Matt Moylan. He is no longer a Panther, thank goodness.

A question was asked and I answered. Also I don't need to do anything anyone tells me other than my boss or my partner. I pay hundreds if not thousands a year for a membership and merchandise + the full tank of fuel it takes to drive to every game I can. I'll say what I want when I want about any panther past, future or present.
 
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A question was asked and I answered. Also I don't need to do anything anyone tells me other than my boss or my partner. I pay hundreds if not thousands a year for a membership and merchandise + the full tank of fuel it takes to drive to every game I can. I'll say what I want when I want about any panther past, future or present.
Yet you attempt to tell me what to do. Now it is time for you to put your dummy back in your mouth. Hilarious.
 

mxlegend99

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Its hilarious being told to get over Matt Moylan and how we shouldn't be talking about him. But the second he makes a mistake the same people are ready to lay the boot into him.

The same people complaining about comparing him to Maloney were the ones happy to do it earlier in the year when Jimmy was in good form.

Ofcourse the two players are going go be compared... they traded clubs and play in the same position. There's going to be debate for a long time as to who got the better end of the deal. A debate people complaining were happy to have 10 to 12 weeks ago.
 

betcats

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Did Maloney ever play with such an injury as what Maloney has had. I get it that would think Moylan is God's first born son and all of that. But he's no longer in a Panther's jersey and that is the team I support.

What a f**king stupid comment. Yes he did in fact play with a little ankle injury. f**k off if you don’t like me talking about Moylan just ignore it, embarrassing yourself with stupid comments isn’t doing yourself any favours.
 

betcats

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My meaning is that surely it's time to move on. The bloke no longer plays for the club.

It doesn't hurt anyone talking about Moylan, why do you care? He is a local junior with potential to be one of our best ever products, he is always going to be talked about by Penrith fans, either as the one that got away or a waste of talent that led us to Maloney.
 

OldPanther

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Literally limped across the try line with his no ticker having ass.

I could use a little less ticker by the looks of it.

It doesn't hurt anyone talking about Moylan, why do you care? He is a local junior with potential to be one of our best ever products, he is always going to be talked about by Penrith fans, either as the one that got away or a waste of talent that led us to Maloney.

Panther fans still talk about Fittler to this day and the majority of his career was at the Rooster.
 

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