Parra v Manly LIVE game day thread, March 18, 2018

[Avenger]

Shouldn't have been in first grade either you reckon?

How don’t you get tired of this routine?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Yep I was concerned by that too.

I would have been more concerned if he said he did see it coming and didn't do anything about it.

 

[El Diablo]

We have played 20 minutes of good footy this season so far. That’s it. 140 minutes of rubbish.

and that was because Penrith played 20 minutes of shocking footy and we still scored f**k all against them in that period

 

[Chipmunk]

It's the only thing that's changed from last year. Unless you think a winger and a fullback would stop us conceding 50 points?

Today our defensive attitude was non-existent from the outset, but part of our success at the back end last season was that we used a tactic to incorrectly play the ball consistently throughout the match. This tactic commenced around the end of the Origin period and remained for the rest of the season. This was a definite planned tactic from our team, because every middle forward was playing the ball incorrectly so that we could artificially get quicker play the balls. This tactic was a major contributor to our success at the back end of the season and it is the only time in more than a decade that we've looked like consistently winning the play the ball in attack. It was a masterstroke tactic from our coaching staff. This and our attitude in defence was all we really had, but it was all we needed.

This use of this tactic appears to be now outlawed in the game and we appear to have no answers to be able to come up with any kind of alternative to win the play the ball and make ground in the middle. We were losing the play the ball from the outset of today. We were losing the play the ball from the outset last week also, except the Panthers were their own worse enemy at the start of the match and couldn't hold onto the ball. We had just as much ball in the first 30 minutes of the match last week as what Manly had today, yet we couldn't take our opponents out of the match.

Fixing our defensive attitude should be easy, but fixing our complete inability to win the play the ball area isn't going to be an easy fix.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Really happy you guys took Bitch Poses off our hands. Sideways in attack and backwards in defence.

Truly a man of steel, he fits right in to your "amazing squad" lol

Two games into the season and you're calling the Easter Monday clash already?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So um, I guess the Kane Evans starting, Alvaro and Moeroa off the bench experiment is done with?

Yeah today was all down to the forward rotation.

 

[Noise]

The strength of the squad. What do you base it on? One game? I hope you're not a punter.

Where is our strength exactly? It use to be our edge forwards but they have regressed. Our backline? Our coach doesn't even know where to put our backs! Our middles? They are getting steamrolled on both sides of the ball.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sorry guys I know you're doing it tough at the moment but I have to admit, watching Corey Norman, Josh Hoffman and Hayne get buried by 54 blot was.....satisfying lol

As satisfying as when we put 50 on you in Brisbane last year?

 

[Bazal]

Look, I think we all just need to find a good hate f**k and come back in the morning....

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We look bottom 8 certainties after today.

March wooden spooners is definitely not as good as being March premiers.

 

[Tiger5150]

Only 1 team played away in Round 1 and 2. Guess who?

Tigers played away Rounds 1 & 2. Your point?

 

[Noise]

I would have been more concerned if he said he did see it coming and didn't do anything about it.

That also would be very concerning.

 

[Eelogical]

Hayne looks wasted in the centres, time to make some big decisions. Taka back to centres, Hayne to fullback and move French to.............? I have no clue on the forwards...........just saying.

 

[hindy111]

There were several more (including some that were worse than the ones I posted). I am only allowed to post 5 pictures.

They've played some diabolical games where their performance has been appalling. If Avenger was a Dogs fan during that period he would have called for Des' head at least 10-15 times.

I dont want him either.
I have said it 100 x if we want to win a comp save up 6million and offer it to Phil Gould.

 

[Gazzamatta]

I really thought we needed team changes after the Panthers game but as usual BA decided to cut and paste. I started to think that maybe BA was correct. Dont panic and stick solid after one average performance.
What then happened was BA did indeed make changes. It showed he was concerned about our second half D so he made adjustments. This was reinforced when we decided to run into the wind in the first half.
Obviously he wasnt confident. His presser said he didn't see todays performance coming. I think his changes show he was indeed concerned.

 

[hindy111]

and that was because Penrith played 20 minutes of shocking footy and we still scored f**k all against them in that period

Agree. An Panther struggles against South without Reynolds and Ingkis for half the game.

 

[strider]

and that was because Penrith played 20 minutes of shocking footy and we still scored f**k all against them in that period

3 tries in 20 minutes is f**k all? ... if yyou scored at that rate all game you'd potentially score 72 points ffs .... lol

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Mate we were gone after the whistle.

They didn’t turn up at all IMO, never got off the bus. And that’s what pisses me off the most. Most of the tries were soft as a Timmy Mannah hit up.

Not turning up is probably the easiest thing to fix.

 

[Gary Gutful]

That also would be very concerning.

Is there actually an answer to "How come you merkins got beat 54-0 nil" that isn't concerning?

 

[Avenger]

There were several more (including some that were worse than the ones I posted). I am only allowed to post 5 pictures.

They've played some diabolical games where their performance has been appalling. If Avenger was a Dogs fan during that period he would have called for Des' head at least 10-15 times.

I don’t know if you realise it but I get a feeling about coaches pretty early. I predicted way before many here that Kearney would get the arse. Did the same with Hagan and more recently with Stuart.

I called for Stuart’s head way before anyone else. BA however is different. I think he is a good coach but he has plenty of weaknesses.

He doesn’t make the tough calls on player selections, his tactics can be questionable at best and he has been out coached so many times.

It is obvious he needs help. He is struggling. Him admitting that he didn’t see this coming is worrying. He isn’t a rookie anymore. He actually looks clueless out there and if he doesn’t get this side into the 8 then he should be thrown out on his ear.

Enough of this patience shit. I’ve been patient for over 30 years and have earned the right to have an opinion no matter how radical some softcocks here think it is.