Parramatta Eels sign Josh Papalii for 2014

[Joshuatheeel]

WTF - what sh?t is furner talking about - what, his club is an easy target for other clubs ? Not to sure what he is on, but the only player I can think of that is any good and with another NRL club is carney and they sacked him and Michael weyman and they weren't keen on keeping him. They have kept the majority of their juniors!

And yeah Canberra has never sign players from other clubs,

Brett white
David shillington
Tom learoyd lars
Blake Ferguson
Sandor Earle
Reece Robinson
Dane tilse

From their top 17, have all been recruited from other clubs

Suck in up Don, all clubs lose players they want to keep!

 

[hineyrulz]

Still more BS from Furner, nothing from Papalii. They are just trying to cover their arses after they tried to pick the kid up on the cheap.

 

[Stagger eel]

Both Furners are under extreme pressure.... Which is why they're chasing their tails right now.. We've done everything by the book and Canberra were caught with their pants down...

 

[strider]

i really don't get why people are so upset with canberra .... they are just trying to do shit to keep the guy - just like we would want our club to if one of ours signed elsewhere

 

[Tommy Coco]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-for-next-season/story-e6frexnr-1226585424488

...But then came last weekend's address, which cleared the air among the squad. "Josh is a pretty quietly spoken kid, but he just got up to say 'Don't believe everything you read'," a Raiders insider said.

"He didn't say he'd be staying in Canberra for sure, but he's still not decided on what he wants to do."...

Canberra Raiders chief executive Don Furner has vowed to keep battling to the end to retain emerging enforcer Josh Papalii.
....."We're just going to keep punching away and keep fighting to keep him," Furner told AAP at the Raiders' season launch.....

"He knows how important he is to us. Hopefully we'll make him change his mind.

I wonder if he says i'm definitely leaving, if canberra will bugger off and this story will just stop dragging...

 

[oldmancraigy]

i really don't get why people are so upset with canberra .... they are just trying to do shit to keep the guy - just like we would want our club to if one of ours signed elsewhere

Nah - when T-Rex signed elsewhere, I was really really happy that we paid the money we could've used to keep him to Hauraki, Oake and Tautai.

 

[Stagger eel]

i really don't get why people are so upset with canberra .... they are just trying to do shit to keep the guy - just like we would want our club to if one of ours signed elsewhere

Well if what I heard ever comes out then you'll know why...if we lose hayne after leaving him unsigned for so long we'll have ourselves to blame... These guys can't cop the fact t that we beat em to the punch for a bloke which they took for granted would stay for less.. f**k them

 

[strider]

i agree they probably took it for granted that they might be able to keep him for less and probably even tried to play a little hard ball with his manager and lost out .... but they are still within their rights to now try and keep him

of course i don't know all the dirt, so yeah - dirty merkins! :lol:

 

[Joshuatheeel]

i agree they probably took it for granted that they might be able to keep him for less and probably even tried to play a little hard ball with his manager and lost out .... but they are still within their rights to now try and keep him

of course i don't know all the dirt, so yeah - dirty merkins! :lol:

I have no problems with raiders trying to keep him but don't use the media to try and pressure him to stay.

 

[born an eel]

Raiders CEO to 'punch away' for Papalii
David Barbeler
11:07 AEST Fri Mar 1 2013

"He's a great kid. He could stay here for a couple more years and he'd only be coming off contract at 22 or 23, so he's well placed."

so they only want him for this contrcat period and then he can go, we should be stressing we want to make him an "eel for life".

Furner said the club had become frustrated by the number of talented young players pinched from the nation's capital by rival clubs.
"We're an easy place to target. It's cold. People take them to the beach and say 'how good is this?'" Furner said.

here's a tip, don't target queensland kids to develop then if you think they don't like the cold.

"It's frustrating because we put a lot of time and a lot of money into junior development and we could quite easily sit back and just pinch blokes at 23 or 24 and let some other club do the development."
Furner said the Raiders had recently changed their development strategy and started focusing more on recruiting country kids, who generally seemed to prefer living in Canberra over the bigger cities.

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8619271

maybe you should put more time into discipline then and you may get to keep more juniours, how many "Carneys" have they lost?

 

[hybrideel]

What annoys me most about this is that noone other than us here seem to be saying anything about that fact that Canberra are openly trying to get him to break his contract. While what they are doing may be within the law it's certainly not within the spirit of the game in my book. And when the shoe is on the other foot, regardless of the player i would hope our club keeps it's integrity and acknowledges a contract for what it should be.
I used to actually like watching Canberra as i enjoy their style of play, but the way the management has carried on about this whole thing has just made me think f@#k them

 

[Craig Johnston]

What annoys me most about this is that noone other than us here seem to be saying anything about that fact that Canberra are openly trying to get him to break his contract. While what they are doing may be within the law it's certainly not within the spirit of the game in my book. And when the shoe is on the other foot, regardless of the player i would hope our club keeps it's integrity and acknowledges a contract for what it should be.
I used to actually like watching Canberra as i enjoy their style of play, but the way the management has carried on about this whole thing has just made me think f@#k them

except it may not be within the law.

it is within the rules of the NRL no doubt, but the contract that papalii signed is binding if there is no conditional clause on the round 13 rule.

otherwise contract law superseeds anything the nrl wants to enforce

 

[El Diablo]

except it may not be within the law.

it is within the rules of the NRL no doubt, but the contract that papalii signed is binding if there is no conditional clause on the round 13 rule.

otherwise contract law superseeds anything the nrl wants to enforce

if a club were to challenge a number of things in court they'd win

eg salary cap

it won't happen and would you want him to come if he changed his mind and didn't want to?

 

[Suitman]

it won't happen and would you want him to come if he changed his mind and didn't want to?

Yes, because if he changed his mind that easily it would be easy to change it back.

Suity

 

[parra-matters]

Raiders are only giving themselves a bad name in all this, how many parents are going to let thier 17 or 18 year old move to Canberra to play for the raiders if in a couple of years they want to move on it will be dragged through the press and they will be pressured to make a decision.

 

[strider]

What annoys me most about this is that noone other than us here seem to be saying anything about that fact that Canberra are openly trying to get him to break his contract. While what they are doing may be within the law it's certainly not within the spirit of the game in my book. And when the shoe is on the other foot, regardless of the player i would hope our club keeps it's integrity and acknowledges a contract for what it should be.
I used to actually like watching Canberra as i enjoy their style of play, but the way the management has carried on about this whole thing has just made me think f@#k them

BUT ... it's not breaking a contract if the contract specifically says it is allowed ... which apparently is the case

 

[Maroubra Eel]

It's very unprofessional of Canberra, but exactly what I expected from them. They are run by lowlifes.

 

[Gronk]

Of course he wants to come and play for Parra rather than live in the ACT. He'd have 1000's of cousins living in and around Parra and C'town.

#cuz

 

[Craig Johnston]

if a club were to challenge a number of things in court they'd win

eg salary cap

it won't happen and would you want him to come if he changed his mind and didn't want to?

not true, it depends on the impact and cost associated for legals.

for bringing down the salary cap itself you would be responsible for impacting every club and player in the code,

to dispute one single players contractual obligation to a club has negligble ripple effect, as the dispute is directly between papalii and the eels if he reneged on an unconditional contract

plenty of precendences where this has happened and has followed through to compensation, turner is one, sonny bill another

 

[Craig Johnston]

BUT ... it's not breaking a contract if the contract specifically says it is allowed ... which apparently is the case

we don't know this for sure, gallop has publicly stated in the past that the confusion on the rule is with agents and club administrators not knowing how the rule operates.

it would be a big assumption imo that an agent has covered his client correctly for this given gallop's comments in the past.