Parramatta may be lucky to make the 8 next year

[True EEL]

agreed UTE

and i think that halves combo should be 6. Morris and 7. Marsh

 

[parra001]

Whoever it is lets just hope that they are given a fair shot & allowed to play the whole 80minutes in those positions...the whole 2001 half/hooker swapping thing died in 02 and hopefully Brians realised this

 

[Utey]

I think the 2001 thing we had going was genius. We had Drew, MArsh and Taylor who were all capable and always got the job done.

 

[Eelementary]

Well of course we'll be in trouble - half of you guys expect every single player in our team to be superstars.

Check Penrith last year - IMO, Rooney is overrated; Wesser is soft in defence and Whatuira was nothing special, yet they still managed to make the Grand Final and win it.

You say Grothe is great in attack but vulnerable in defence. So are Billy Slater and Matt Bowen - are you seriously telling me you wouldn't want them at Parramatta?

If our forwards do their jobs our backs should have to make less tackles anyway.

 

[Eelementary]

And wasn't it the reverse situation in the '80's - we had the excellent backs but lacked the brilliant forwards?

As long as our TEAM plays well, we'll be fine.

We have three strike weapons in McKinnon, Grothe and Tahu.

We have players in Burt and Petersen who are good finishers and continuously find the line.

And we have young guys like Anderson and Smith who showed plenty of potential.

And I agree - Mateo is a lock, and I'd love to see him wear our number 13.

 

[Eelementary]

Anyway, IMHO this year's main issues were such:

1. Lack of go-forward

2. Lack of explosive and creative attacking options (i.e.: lack of good halves combination).

Our backs could find the try line when our forwards did their jobs and our halves worked well.

 

[Eelementary]

great first post ronny. i like your hard hitting pesimistic style. nothing like a spot of truth to stop the bullsh*t hype that we got caught up in this year.
we need more posts in here like that from you and a select group of others. theres a few people here like ron and hurri, parraren and newmaj that really know their stuff. the rest of you are just f***ing idiots and you give me migraines with your f***ing rubbish.
the people i mentioned are the compass that keeps this sinking ship on course. time to cut some dead weight i think.

Exactly where do you get off insulting everyone on this board, arsehole?

You may be so brave and intelligent hiding behind your computer monitor but as far as I'm concerend you're garbage.

 

[Eelementary]

Gee i hope so.

Witt- is another player dubbed with that word " potential" but to be frank is hardly what he's made out to be?, sure he has mongrel....and plenty of it which to me is a paramount.

But i don't believe he has the ball skills to cut it, i haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise, he may need a player like Smith to come in and take soem pressure of him or start him from the bench?

As disappointing as it is, I agree with you - Mick just doesn't cut it.

It's a shame, because he knows how to kick that ball (in play and goal-kicking) so well, and has passion by the truckloads.

 

[Avenger]

great first post ronny. i like your hard hitting pesimistic style. nothing like a spot of truth to stop the bullsh*t hype that we got caught up in this year.
we need more posts in here like that from you and a select group of others. theres a few people here like ron and hurri, parraren and newmaj that really know their stuff. the rest of you are just f***ing idiots and you give me migraines with your f***ing rubbish.
the people i mentioned are the compass that keeps this sinking ship on course. time to cut some dead weight i think.

So let me see your contribution to this forum. Never stroke the ego of a few while shitting on the majority. I realise now how you got your name.

 

[Eelementary]

No body wants to give young players the time to develop into first grade. Whats the bet that when Tim Smith gets a shot at first grade and doesnt set the world on fire that your all going to go write him off. The problem with you guys is the fact that we have been playing poorly for 3 seasons now and your all after the quick fix. No body is willing (including the coach (cause his job is on the line)) to give these kids time. If Smith had just left Witt at Halfback then him and the team would be much better off for it. Smith wasn't willing to give J Cayless and Tonga the time to develop in first grade and look whats happen. They go to clubs willing to give them a shot and they develop into rep class players. Ryan and I Hindmarsh when they first cracked first grade the side wasn't traveling to well. Comming near last early 2000. But they grew into first grade and where a huge reason why 2001 was so successful. Ryan might be the Bulldogs captain next season. Would you have seen that coming after he had played a handful of games in 2000? Instead our juniours get stuck behind losers like Pearson, Crouch, Langi etc.

The sooner we get a new coach the earlier this joke can end.

You know what Pazza?

Our coach has had 8 seasons now. 8.
And plenty of people are making comments like yours.

Wouldn't it be obvious from that, that maybe we have been heading down the wrong path for just a year or two too long now???

The Roosters made the Grand Final in 2002 and you know what?......they sacked their coach because they demanded better. And they got it.
Two more seasons at the top.


What do we do??? Settle for "the future will save us".

That's why clubs like the Bulldogs and Roosters and Bronco's are always up there.
Professional, determined, bloody minded. Just listen to Ricky Stuart at every press conference.
He has the sh*ts about everything. Thats why I hate him. But he displays passion. Even after a win.
What do we see after EVERY press conference - win or lose?
Timid bollocks.

Suity

But there is nothing we can do - Brian won't be sacked until his contract expires.

 

[Eelementary]

Actually the more I think about it, the more I convince myself that Chad Robinson will be the buy of the year.

Even more so than Morrison, Marsh or Riddell.

He is nothing flash, but has great fitness, a great work ethic, strong defence and always makes plenty of metres.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Gee i hope so.

Witt- is another player dubbed with that word " potential" but to be frank is hardly what he's made out to be?, sure he has mongrel....and plenty of it which to me is a paramount.

But i don't believe he has the ball skills to cut it, i haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise, he may need a player like Smith to come in and take soem pressure of him or start him from the bench?

As disappointing as it is, I agree with you - Mick just doesn't cut it.

It's a shame, because he knows how to kick that ball (in play and goal-kicking) so well, and has passion by the truckloads.

Why is it disappointing that you agree with me?

 

[Ron Jeremy]

I'll say another thing, Luke O'Dwyer has yet to convince me he's an option for first grade.

Yes he can defend, but most players can, what we need to be a threat is having a centre with strong defensive chatacteristcis & offensive.

We cannot rely on spare-parts players that can only offer something good on the field in certain parts like defense or offense or good under the high ball etc.........we need complete players like a Mckinnon or Hindmarsh who have shown to have excelled in their postions on a consistant basis.

 

[ParraMatt]

I agree with what you both say RJ and UTE, particularly about Widders being a benchie. He can't be any more than that as he is too ineffective when he starts.

I was savage on Ash earlier in the year, especially after Melbourne in Melbourne when he made 1 hitup for 5 metres, no tackles, 1 error and 1 mistackle. I hope he proves me wrong but I can't see him being any more than Premmies. Unfortunately Ron, as you have alluded to, our depth will see him in Firsts for a while I suspect.

I think Wags could be slotted in the centres, if for nothing else to bolster defence on the edges. Depending on the makeup of the backrow he may play lock.

The little I have seen of Feliti impresses me but his size alone makes me think he is a lock. I can't see him being an NRL 5/8....but then again I have probably seen too little to make an educated comment.

Henry Perenara has played a bit of NRL at the Dragons and Storm but I start to get worried when players are getting onto their 3rd, 4th, 5th club (Kevin Campion may be an exception but Tyran Smith aint).

The young guys that will play juniors up to flegg may be the ones that, hopefully, really come on and turn into stars for us. Josh Davis for example looks like a unit and could be something in the making.

What I would give for a Sonny-Bill or Matty Bowen....obviously totally different players but game turning in their own right. Do we have one them in the nursery as we speak...we can only hope.

I am more confident heading into next year than this year and at the start of this year I thought we could be Top 4 IF we could be relatively injury free and keep the cattle on the paddock.

I have said it once and will say it again, pinning myself on the statement....Riddell is the man for us next year. It's in my water!

We do have one of these players, It is Daniel Backo, He is of a similar style to Sonny Bill, Can play Prop, Second Row, Lock and Centre. This guy is going to be the next best thing from Parramatta, Hopefully Smithy uses his wisely and starts him close to the start of the year like Folkesy did to Sonny Bill.

 

[Stagger eel]

I agree with what you both say RJ and UTE, particularly about Widders being a benchie. He can't be any more than that as he is too ineffective when he starts.

I was savage on Ash earlier in the year, especially after Melbourne in Melbourne when he made 1 hitup for 5 metres, no tackles, 1 error and 1 mistackle. I hope he proves me wrong but I can't see him being any more than Premmies. Unfortunately Ron, as you have alluded to, our depth will see him in Firsts for a while I suspect.

I think Wags could be slotted in the centres, if for nothing else to bolster defence on the edges. Depending on the makeup of the backrow he may play lock.

The little I have seen of Feliti impresses me but his size alone makes me think he is a lock. I can't see him being an NRL 5/8....but then again I have probably seen too little to make an educated comment.

Henry Perenara has played a bit of NRL at the Dragons and Storm but I start to get worried when players are getting onto their 3rd, 4th, 5th club (Kevin Campion may be an exception but Tyran Smith aint).

The young guys that will play juniors up to flegg may be the ones that, hopefully, really come on and turn into stars for us. Josh Davis for example looks like a unit and could be something in the making.

What I would give for a Sonny-Bill or Matty Bowen....obviously totally different players but game turning in their own right. Do we have one them in the nursery as we speak...we can only hope.

I am more confident heading into next year than this year and at the start of this year I thought we could be Top 4 IF we could be relatively injury free and keep the cattle on the paddock.

I have said it once and will say it again, pinning myself on the statement....Riddell is the man for us next year. It's in my water!

We do have one of these players, It is Daniel Backo, He is of a similar style to Sonny Bill, Can play Prop, Second Row, Lock and Centre. This guy is going to be the next best thing from Parramatta, Hopefully Smithy uses his wisely and starts him close to the start of the year like Folkesy did to Sonny Bill.

Matt,

Sonny-Bill had a full year in Premier league and even made his grade debut with Jersey Flegg the year before, so I think Daniel, as great a player we all hope would be, needs some nurchering and I think you'll find that he will spend the whole year in Flegg with maybe a couple of runs in PL,

If he does find his way in FG it won't be because of form it would be more because of neccesatity. god help us if we get to that stage where we need to blood kids early in the year.

 

[Pazza]

Actually the more I think about it, the more I convince myself that Chad Robinson will be the buy of the year.

Even more so than Morrison, Marsh or Riddell.

He is nothing flash, but has great fitness, a great work ethic, strong defence and always makes plenty of metres.

I agree that he will be very important to our team next year and i think he is very under rated by supporters on this board. He is very experianced in finals football and comes from a winning team with a winning attitude. I think he is very close to a starting spot.

 

[Pazza]

I guess you have seen Daniel Backo play Parramatt?

 

[Utey]

I have an he has the same style as Sonny Bill. He always reeks havoc when playing wide of the ruck and when uo the middle makes plently of meters. He hjas a real work ethic.

 

[Pazza]

Is he the same build as SBW or different like a Willie Mason or a Danny Nutley? Which player in parramatta does his build most resemble?

 

[Utey]

HMM Do you remember his dad? We dont really have a backrower with the agility he has. But he does reminds me of Sonny Bill.