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Gronk

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I know that Clover has her mind set on the demo of the Woolies building. Unsure of timing
 

TheRam

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I think this is the latest on it. Can't find anything later then this.

https://cityhubsydney.com.au/2020/05/town-hall-square-plan-hits-another-roadblock/

CITY HUB
Town Hall Square plan hits another roadblock
Posted on 24 May 2020 by Staff Writer in City Hub City News
By ALLISON HORE

The City of Sydney will consider extending Woolworths’ lease on the central Sydney building that is home to their Town Hall flagship store. The lease was due to expire in 2030, but after a “very good offer” from Woolworths, the council was left with the decision whether or not to extend the lease, further delaying the long-awaited Town Hall Square development.

The City of Sydney has owned the building on the corner of Park and George street, of which Woolworths occupies 6 floors, since 1985. While no information is yet available as to the value of Woolworths’ offer, councillors hope the money will bail them out of COVID related financial strife.

In a meeting last week, Deputy Lord Mayor Jess Scully said an increase in the lease payments from Woolworths would help the council with the “difficult financial situation” that they face in the COVID-19 fall out. The council estimates their revenue will decrease by $75 million over a 6-month period.

“It will be a very important revenue stream in the context of the budgetary impact of COVID-19 and its slowdown of the city,” she said in the meeting.

But accepting the offer comes at the extent of the long-delayed Town Hall Square development, which is a major part of the City of Sydney’s Sustainable Sydney 2030 project to make Sydney a more “green, global and connected city”.

The Square would open up the area opposite Sydney’s Town Hall and create a public gathering place similar to those in other cities, and it would complement the George Street light rail and CBD pedestrian boulevard.

Setbacks
The extended lease for Woolworths is just one of many setbacks the City of Sydney has faced in seeing through the plans for a Town Hall Square redevelopment, which were first proposed in the 1980s by then lord mayor Doug Sutherland. Before moving forward with the square, the council has had to negotiate with the NSW Government on their Light Rail and Sydney Metro developments.

Although no budget has been set aside for the project, the City of Sydney has coughed up around $150 million to buy properties on key pieces of land. In 2004 the council acquired the building on 207 Pitt Street for $19.9 million. At that time, they already owned the Woolworths building directly opposite Town Hall, the Hotel Coronation and the Lowes building on the corner of Pitt Street and Park street. The Pittsway arcade was purchased by the City of Sydney in 2016 for $43 million.

Despite the amount of money sunk into building acquisitions, and the lack of a solid plan and timeline moving forward, the City of Sydney thinks it is a worthwhile investment.

“Commercial revenue generated from the properties is used to fund city services,” the council spokesperson said.
The council will meet on Monday 25 May to decide whether or not to accept the proposal from Woolworths. They will also consider extending leases for four other businesses occupying the building for five years beyond their 2030 end.
 

Suitman

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I think this is the latest on it. Can't find anything later then this.

https://cityhubsydney.com.au/2020/05/town-hall-square-plan-hits-another-roadblock/

CITY HUB
Town Hall Square plan hits another roadblock
Posted on 24 May 2020 by Staff Writer in City Hub City News
By ALLISON HORE

The City of Sydney will consider extending Woolworths’ lease on the central Sydney building that is home to their Town Hall flagship store. The lease was due to expire in 2030, but after a “very good offer” from Woolworths, the council was left with the decision whether or not to extend the lease, further delaying the long-awaited Town Hall Square development.

The City of Sydney has owned the building on the corner of Park and George street, of which Woolworths occupies 6 floors, since 1985. While no information is yet available as to the value of Woolworths’ offer, councillors hope the money will bail them out of COVID related financial strife.

In a meeting last week, Deputy Lord Mayor Jess Scully said an increase in the lease payments from Woolworths would help the council with the “difficult financial situation” that they face in the COVID-19 fall out. The council estimates their revenue will decrease by $75 million over a 6-month period.

“It will be a very important revenue stream in the context of the budgetary impact of COVID-19 and its slowdown of the city,” she said in the meeting.

But accepting the offer comes at the extent of the long-delayed Town Hall Square development, which is a major part of the City of Sydney’s Sustainable Sydney 2030 project to make Sydney a more “green, global and connected city”.

The Square would open up the area opposite Sydney’s Town Hall and create a public gathering place similar to those in other cities, and it would complement the George Street light rail and CBD pedestrian boulevard.

Setbacks
The extended lease for Woolworths is just one of many setbacks the City of Sydney has faced in seeing through the plans for a Town Hall Square redevelopment, which were first proposed in the 1980s by then lord mayor Doug Sutherland. Before moving forward with the square, the council has had to negotiate with the NSW Government on their Light Rail and Sydney Metro developments.

Although no budget has been set aside for the project, the City of Sydney has coughed up around $150 million to buy properties on key pieces of land. In 2004 the council acquired the building on 207 Pitt Street for $19.9 million. At that time, they already owned the Woolworths building directly opposite Town Hall, the Hotel Coronation and the Lowes building on the corner of Pitt Street and Park street. The Pittsway arcade was purchased by the City of Sydney in 2016 for $43 million.

Despite the amount of money sunk into building acquisitions, and the lack of a solid plan and timeline moving forward, the City of Sydney thinks it is a worthwhile investment.

“Commercial revenue generated from the properties is used to fund city services,” the council spokesperson said.
The council will meet on Monday 25 May to decide whether or not to accept the proposal from Woolworths. They will also consider extending leases for four other businesses occupying the building for five years beyond their 2030 end.


Yep, that was the last I heard as well. That city square is a long way off coming to fruition.
Unfortunately.
 

TheRam

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Yep, that was the last I heard as well. That city square is a long way off coming to fruition.
Unfortunately.

From a personal point of view I'm torn between being both happy for the delay and sad because I think it would be a great improvement. But I often shop at Woolies there and would hate for it to close down. That would leave only the Coles at the World Square and they would have a monopoly, which would be a terrible outcome for all City dwellers.

I don't know where else Woolies could go and have such a large space around that same area.

So the delay for me is somewhat of a silver lining. I can still shop at both depending on my needs.
 

84 Baby

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Oh, Mr Hart! What a mess! I know it's a means to an end, but the locals mustn't be pleased.

Locals? You mean the people who work there and will benefit from having the light rail in place?
Not as simple as laying down some train tracks
 

Eelogical

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Locals? You mean the people who work there and will benefit from having the light rail in place?
Not as simple as laying down some train tracks
I'm sure some local businesses have suffered but I know the end result will be most likely worth it. It just looks like a dog's breakfast atm, and it has for some time.
 

84 Baby

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I'm no millennial! Boomer all the way!
Typical boomer pretending like his generation is any different to other generations.
It’s had some design issues but it’s gone along super fast compared to most government projects. And as for current aesthetics, given the depth and complexity, shit’ll look manky
 

Eelogical

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Typical boomer pretending like his generation is any different to other generations.
It’s had some design issues but it’s gone along super fast compared to most government projects. And as for current aesthetics, given the depth and complexity, shit’ll look manky
One day, you'll look upon us with awe and respect while gen Alpha treats you with disdain. Anyhooz, I'm sure we have a faster construction speed other than turtle mode.
 

Suitman

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Unfortunately, Phil had no clue with his directions, when he said it continues to Parramatta Square and turns right and heads to Westmead. It actually turns left at Macquarie and heads to Carlingford.
The section where he started the video heads north up Church street and then to Westmead, so he was completely out of whack.
Also, I'm not sure how long ago the video was made but shite loads more has been done than what he showed.
 
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