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Paul McGregor Extension

getsmarty

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So you think our players are not happy? As for losing players because they feel they should be playing 1st grade, that happens at all clubs and would still happen if we had Bennett or Bellamy coaching. You can't play 30 guys in 1st grade each week. We get over losing players, we find another potential superstar. Kurt Mann, is he setting the world alight at Knights? Jack Bird spits the dummy because he couldn't get a gig in 1st grade with us, just another average player. Beau Henry, Evander Cummings.....You been following their glittering careers have you? Jai Field may make it one day, but more likely with another club. Same with Reece Robson. They are not better players than who we have in our top 13 now. As for Zac Lomax, yes, love him as a player but even he is not irreplaceable if he chooses somewhere else thinking he has a better opportunity. And he looks happy to me at the moment.

Tell me who of our top 17, current squad, do you think is not a happy player right now?

.,.You named Henry ( currently Norths ) Evander C... ( Never going to be big ) The current crop of Juniors are the best we have had in a long time....mark my words...

Our clueless coach is playing a specialist right Centre as a utility forward..its laughable....

anyway you are entitled to your opinion....as someone who has followed our club for decades I expect a little accountability in terms of how we do business...this current Board do whatever they please....

I will not be giving the club another cent of my hard earned.....

P.S I love your deflection...again..what makes you Happy about the McGregor situation? what has he achieved. ? 1 finals win in 5 1/2 seasons....Compare that to Souths who sacked Maguire after 5 seasons and he won them a Premiership....
 
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We had the most memberships in the NRL in 2011, and the Chief Operating Officer went on the record in 2013 announcing a target of 40,000 memberships within 5 years. The numbers are stagnant. Just like the club itself.

But hey, the players seem happy.
They do, don't they.......thank you.
Oh, and btw, Mary was not contracted beyond 2019 when Gareth requested quitting the club at the end of 2019. But again, that doesn't suit your agenda, does it?
 

grouch

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They do, don't they.......thank you.
Oh, and btw, Mary was not contracted beyond 2019 when Gareth requested quitting the club at the end of 2019. But again, that doesn't suit your agenda, does it?
lol as if McGregor wasn't already extended

Who isn't content in a comfort zone? Bet they'll look back with fondness at the fun times they had together at Unanderra pub. I hope they all took lots of photos to put in their empty trophy cabinets
 

possm

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Widdop like most on here believed Mary would be extended. Though I believe Widdop made up his mind after having heated discussions over the recruitment of Norman and his impending move to fullback.
 
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....I named one biggy already..,.You named Henry ( currently Norths ) Evander C... ( Never going to be big ) The current crop of Juniors are the best we have had in a long time....mark my words...Other clubs are monitoring the Lomax situation....he will be a future Origin player barring injuries etc....Very highly rated by those in the Know in the game.

Our clueless coach is playing a specialist right Centre as a utility forward..its laughable....

anyway you are entitled to your opinion....as someone who has followed our club for decades I expect a little accountability in terms of how we do business...this current Board do whatever they please....

I will not be giving the club another cent of my hard earned.....

P.S I love your deflection...again..what makes you Happy about the McGregor situation? what has he achieved. ? 1 finals win in 5 1/2 seasons....Compare that to Souths who sacked Maguire after 5 seasons and he won them a Premiership....
Getsmarty, I never said I was happy with the extension of Mary.....if it were up to me, I would have made an offer to Kevvie Walters, JD, or even Holbrook. I think they are all better options. But it is not up to me, nor you, or any fans. Someone here even stated he is done because the club ignores the fans wants. He wants to follow Broncos. Do you think his voice and opinions are going to be heard and acted on by Broncos management? Ridiculous.

I was just saying that in my opinion, the core of our players seem content with Mary as coach. And as a fan, I want a happy team.
 

ebbedfred

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No fan will ever see Mary's abilities the same way the players do. They seem happy and want him as coach.

Bottom line for me......if the players are happy, I am happy!

I do actually agree with you here, I DO think the players like him, and I do believe this is important as a coach if you want your players to believe in you, but it's only 1 factor in being a coach. You can be the best guy in the world, but it doesn't mean you'll be a great coach. His deficiencies have never been in his popularity within the club. He needs to show he is learning from previous mistakes, something we are yet to see.

I hope he proves so many wrong and leads the club to success, but there is no evidence that he is making alterations to the things that have cost us in the last few years, and that's why so many fans are frustrated he has been extended before he has demonstrated this.

At the end of the day, I'm not sure after 5 years how a best finish of 7th on the ladder is good enough, where losing 8 of your last 12 games every season is worthy of an extension now.
 

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Crikey ! I wish you fellas would get of my back , I am a far better coach than you give me credit for. I can guarantee that the Dragons will be getting twice the amount of ball this year when we are attacking , as I will be giving the forwards 1 and the backs the other - twice as many points , cannot lose !
 

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Getsmarty, I never said I was happy with the extension of Mary.....if it were up to me, I would have made an offer to Kevvie Walters, JD, or even Holbrook. I think they are all better options. But it is not up to me, nor you, or any fans. Someone here even stated he is done because the club ignores the fans wants. He wants to follow Broncos. Do you think his voice and opinions are going to be heard and acted on by Broncos management? Ridiculous.

I was just saying that in my opinion, the core of our players seem content with Mary as coach. And as a fan, I want a happy team.
Yep the core of the team are happy as you say , they don't have to worry about playing well every week , as they will not get dropped if they don't perform , the only changes have been through no choice , injuries that have given other players a go .... So yea that's why they all like Mary good bloke but not a good coach .....
 

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I'm sure there is a sensational story about nepotism and corruption at SGI. If only a few of the illustrious media reports would dig deep and expose the behaviour of key decision makers at SGI, I'm sure WIN Corp would go into damage control and quickly move to limit the fall-out.

It is time for concerned St George Leagues Club members to stand up and demand change to the way delegates are appointed to the SGI Board.
 

getsmarty

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Getsmarty, I never said I was happy with the extension of Mary.....if it were up to me, I would have made an offer to Kevvie Walters, JD, or even Holbrook. I think they are all better options. But it is not up to me, nor you, or any fans. Someone here even stated he is done because the club ignores the fans wants. He wants to follow Broncos. Do you think his voice and opinions are going to be heard and acted on by Broncos management? Ridiculous.

I was just saying that in my opinion, the core of our players seem content with Mary as coach. And as a fan, I want a happy team.

Fair enough re Mary...In regards to players, I have been told that a number of our Top 30 are being monitored/Watched by other clubs...all of them are seen as excellent prospects and if other clubs offer them a starting spot it will be hard for us to keep them...our lower grades are being monitored...Other Savvy clubs know we have talent .this is FACT...not my opinion....I cannot divulge any more....

If McGregor continues to pick and stick certain players then we will lose some excellent ones. Enough Said.
 

getsmarty

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Yep the core of the team are happy as you say , they don't have to worry about playing well every week , as they will not get dropped if they don't perform , the only changes have been through no choice , injuries that have given other players a go .... So yea that's why they all like Mary good bloke but not a good coach .....

Bingo
 

George Dragon

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Happy with what ? What has he actually achieved since 2014 ....1 finals win...

If we set the bar any lower, we will soon be happy just to exist. We have a fantastic window of opportunity to win a Premiership in the next few years....would be more than happy if McGregor proves me wrong...

You say the players seem happy...there are a number who are being watched by other clubs........
If we lose one of them due to this coach not playing him, I will be spitting chips...
Get ready to spit chips
 

BennyV

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I was just saying that in my opinion, the core of our players seem content with Mary as coach. And as a fan, I want a happy team.
There it is folks, a new low for the bar for success!
I thought it was bad enough when fans didn’t care about results, they just wanted effort! That in itself is an acceptance of being average that I thought was above Dragons fans!

But now? Who cares about results? Who cares about effort? We just want the players to be happy! Let the team plod along with a ceiling around 7th place, as long as they can have a laugh off the field that’s all that matters!

Bottom of the barrel of Dragons fans here!
 

George Dragon

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Getsmarty, I never said I was happy with the extension of Mary.....if it were up to me, I would have made an offer to Kevvie Walters, JD, or even Holbrook. I think they are all better options. But it is not up to me, nor you, or any fans. Someone here even stated he is done because the club ignores the fans wants. He wants to follow Broncos. Do you think his voice and opinions are going to be heard and acted on by Broncos management? Ridiculous.

I was just saying that in my opinion, the core of our players seem content with Mary as coach. And as a fan, I want a happy team.
Name a player that's has said they are unhappy with their coach and then continued to play FG.
Anyone here ever said their boss was shit and not got the sack.
 
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There it is folks, a new low for the bar for success!
I thought it was bad enough when fans didn’t care about results, they just wanted effort! That in itself is an acceptance of being average that I thought was above Dragons fans!

But now? Who cares about results? Who cares about effort? We just want the players to be happy! Let the team plod along with a ceiling around 7th place, as long as they can have a laugh off the field that’s all that matters!

Bottom of the barrel of Dragons fans here!
Name me one team that has had success with an unhappy team? Broncos this year are not a happy team, unhappy with their coach.....They are flying at the moment, hey?

Moron, I kind of expected a simplistic view from some around here.
 
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Happy with this!

Under Mary we have a tough and patient squad that always turns up, puts in the hard yards and usually deserves to win. We have loyalty for and from the players.

Huge mental scars are still pretty fresh from the Brown and Price years and am much happier with Mary than change for the sake of change.
 
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Fair enough re Mary...In regards to players, I have been told that a number of our Top 30 are being monitored/Watched by other clubs...all of them are seen as excellent prospects and if other clubs offer them a starting spot it will be hard for us to keep them...our lower grades are being monitored...Other Savvy clubs know we have talent .this is FACT...not my opinion....I cannot divulge any more....

If McGregor continues to pick and stick certain players then we will lose some excellent ones. Enough Said.
Do you not think the other clubs are looking at lower grades of all clubs? Do you not think we are looking at lower grades of other clubs? That is the way NRL works. All clubs have potential superstars not getting a look in at 1st grade yet. Billy Britain, Beau Fermour, William Kennedy, Jake Turpin, and so many more. If one of our guys, including Zac, chooses to move on because of better opportunity, I say see ya later and good luck with that. If a player doesnt want to play for Dragons, I couldn't give a rat's arse about them.

Now talking about young guys and attitudes, you may know if this is true or not, but I heard from a current under 20's / CC player that Eddie Blacker spat the dummy pretty hard a couple weeks ago because he was dropped from CC back to 20's, and plenty of the other guys are noticing his attitude. For Christs sakes, the kid is 19 years old with a lot to learn yet. Many of these young millennials think everything should be handed to them right away.
 
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