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Penrith v Souths Preliminary Final

Fangs

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The Sharks had 3 too many veterans in their pack (Graham, Fifita and Tolman) and were never going to much South's forwards. The Bunnies won't have that luxury on the weekend. Our forwards are all.in their prime.

That and their younger forwards like Rudolf were terrible in the finals series.
 

Bob

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NRL finals 2022: Nathan Cleary’s dominance a throwback to days of the captain-coach​

Nathan Cleary didn’t spend his recent suspension sulking, he spent it coaching. And in doing so he’s created his own modern-day version of the captain-coach.

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Two coach Clearys are better than one.

That is Isaah Yeo’s take on his co-captain Nathan Cleary’s eye for leadership.
Once common across the top grade in the 1970s and 80s, the captain-coach is now nothing more than a faint memory from a bygone era.
Parramatta have brought the role back at NSW Cup level with Jordan Rankin the Eels’ captain-coach.
And Yeo believes halfback Cleary has crafted his own version of the dual role and it could be be key to Penrith’s dominance over the next decade, starting with back-to-back tiles in 2022.
Nathan Cleary with his father, coach Ivan Cleary. Picture. Phil Hillyard

Nathan Cleary with his father, coach Ivan Cleary. Picture. Phil Hillyard
Cleary was forced onto the sidelines in the final five rounds of the season after he copped a ban for a spear tackle on Parramatta’s Dylan Brown.
In that time, the 24-year-old left no stone unturned in preparing for his return to the field, including putting on his ‘coaching hat’.
“The way he sees the game is like a coach already,” Yeo told News Corp.
“He’s a halfback, so he sees the game well anyway but it’s the confidence in his opinion that was the biggest thing while he was out.
“The way he has grown as a player as he has gotten older and more mature as well, he is a lot more comfortable in his own skin and the way he can project his opinion and back it up as well.
“They are all attributes a good coach would have, he has them already.”
Cleary delivered a masterclass in his first game back in week one of the finals against Eels. It was clear the playmaker had spent his time ironing out the few kinks in his kicking game.
But when he wasn’t fine tuning his own arsenal, Cleary took the opportunity to study the side’s attack from the coach’s box alongside his father Ivan, where he was spotted numerous times during his suspension.
The Clearys are a formidable duo. Picture: Jonathan Ng

The Clearys are a formidable duo. Picture: Jonathan Ng
“Andrew Webster, he’s our assistant and he does that stuff, our attack, for us. But he (Cleary) might have clips that help support Webby as well, they talk to each other as it is anyway.

“When he wasn’t playing, they were talking more often and feeding off each other a little bit more.

“It’s not so much he made changes to how we are playing but backing up Webby.”

Cleary’s banishment also meant the No.7 was able to ensure he was in peak physical condition during Penrith’s finals campaign.

“With the short turnarounds we had (before the final) you’re not doing big weight sessions or strictly fitness sessions … so Nathan has been able to do a lot of that,” Yeo said.

“Physically, he’s probably in the best shape he has been … he’d much prefer match fitness … but had the chance to do the weight sessions and the cardio, like a mini preseason”.

Nathan Cleary (right) is key to Penrith’s chances. Picture: Mark Kolbe/Getty Images

Nathan Cleary (right) is key to Penrith’s chances. Picture: Mark Kolbe/Getty Images
The Panthers will ramp up their title defence on Monday when players return to training after they were given the weekend off to freshen up ahead of Saturday’s blockbuster grand final replay against South Sydney at Accor Stadium.

While key men Alex Johnston and Jai Arrow are under an injury cloud for the Rabbitohs, the Panthers are enjoying a rare luxury of fielding a near-fully fit playing group.

Only rising winger Taylan May, who is also serving a one game ban for a high tackle on Parramatta centre Will Penisni, is struggling with a hamstring injury.

Flyer Charlie Staines is shaping as the most likely to replace May on the edge this weekend. Other options include Robert Jennings, Sunia Turuva and Thomas Jenkins.

It’s a far cry from coach’s Cleary’s predicament in last year’s finals series, where only eight from the 17 to play in the grand final were not carrying a significant injury, including Cleary’s precarious shoulder injury and Dylan Edwards, who played the decider with a broken foot.
 

Kilkenny

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I think if we play to our best, particularly our defence, I think we win. Anything less than our best we leave the door open.
 

Girds89

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Simple game plan to beat the bunnies imo.

Nath to kick long and early. Especially when their wingers arent back. Lets turn latrell round and make him do a heap and heap of hard work bring the bal out off their try line.

When in the right field position nath should so his floater bombs to milne only. Latrell and johnston are very safe under high ball.

When in position to grubber look to plays such as the try edwards scored against parra. Gutho is a great working fb and even he couldnt stop that. Id latrells fatigues he aint getting close to any switch up plays like that.

Biggest thing is mistake free footy and no dumb penalties.

They are a side that can hurt you if given the chance. They are probably the moat lethal attacking side in the comp.. we simply cant give them an inch.

If we can bring our usual game plan we are in with a real good chance.

I think the buns will be up for it and im expecting a real close match.

Fingers crossed we can get it done.
 

BxTom

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My big concern is that the Bunnies will target Cleary and if Klein is doing his referee impersonation, they will get away with it.
 

Kilkenny

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My big concern is that the Bunnies will target Cleary and if Klein is doing his referee impersonation, they will get away with it.
Has Klein been confirmed?

I don’t think it matters really, one way or the other, although the potential for them deciding the outcome is real sadly.

Not suggesting we will be on the receiving end, just generally, I really feel concerned a huge decision could be made, a sin bin or send off could determine the outcome. I so hope not.
 

Kilkenny

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A whole different scenario this season, we are well rested, no obvious injuries although I’m sure we have players with niggles not dissimilar to the Bunnies whose perhaps are more transparent than ours.

We have a great opportunity, to make it through to the GF, not that it means much at the end of the day, still have to be better than the Bunnies.

It will be interesting to see how things pan out on Saturday night.
 

Kilkenny

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Simple game plan to beat the bunnies imo.

Nath to kick long and early. Especially when their wingers arent back. Lets turn latrell round and make him do a heap and heap of hard work bring the bal out off their try line.

When in the right field position nath should so his floater bombs to milne only. Latrell and johnston are very safe under high ball.

When in position to grubber look to plays such as the try edwards scored against parra. Gutho is a great working fb and even he couldnt stop that. Id latrells fatigues he aint getting close to any switch up plays like that.

Biggest thing is mistake free footy and no dumb penalties.

They are a side that can hurt you if given the chance. They are probably the moat lethal attacking side in the comp.. we simply cant give them an inch.

If we can bring our usual game plan we are in with a real good chance.

I think the buns will be up for it and im expecting a real close match.

Fingers crossed we can get it done.
I kind off agree, assuming our sets start off we’ll and get us going forward I think there is merit in kicking early on the fourth tackle just keep turning them around. Nathan’s kicks need to get to the 10 metre zone not the 20/30 metre area. Kick to Johnson and Milne they don’t ruck it out well.
 

Crashtest

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I got my tickets today for Saturday’s game! I can’t wait for this game, should be a cracker.

I work with a number of Souths hard core fans, who already hate me after the GF win last season, so can’t wait for Monday to turn up to work in my Panthers jersey and photos of the victory to rub it in even further to them!
 

Wigansfinest

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According to buzz rabbits win that final if they have latrell playing ( refer to todays nrl 360 ep). Latrell will be playing this week so you have to say we go in as the underdogs right 😂
 

Sime_11

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According to buzz rabbits win that final if they have latrell playing ( refer to todays nrl 360 ep). Latrell will be playing this week so you have to say we go in as the underdogs right 😂
no doubt if we win saturday night - next year they'll say it again or they'll say latrell had an off night.

it would be the funniest stat to have - Latrell playing for Souths couldnt beat Penrith
 

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