Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[Vlad59]

la

my mate owned a broth

he said most workers have been molested as children

mostly it’s an industry preying on the exploited

There’s been a lot of research affirms that.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

My only issue with pokies is that they shouldn't have been allowed into pubs. They should have stayed in clubs

Many pubs were great band venues until they got addicted to pokies. Horrible things!

 

[Chins get the wins]

Gambling addicts in Perth can play the pokies online.

You get better odds online.....

 

[Colk]

Many pubs were great band venues until they got addicted to pokies. Horrible things!

I agree. The other thing is the laws in NSW. They have seriously affected the live music scene.

 

[Vee]

Wow! I check this thread each day for new lines of interest and usually there's several pages of reading, the vast majority of which is petty, small-mindedpersonal attacks so I mostly start at the last page and only check back if there is something of interest mentioned.

I'm in the middle on PVL, he's far and away the best leader we've had but that doesn't excuse his many spectacular failures. To go from there in a PVL thread to an in-depth discussion of the legality vs morality of prostitution vs gambling, just Wow! And the battle is btw two combatants normally, mostly on the same side!

 

[Vlad59]

Wow! I check this thread each day for new lines of interest and usually there's several pages of reading, the vast majority of which is petty, small-mindedpersonal attacks so I mostly start at the last page and only check back if there is something of interest mentioned.

I'm in the middle on PVL, he's far and away the best leader we've had but that doesn't excuse his many spectacular failures. To go from there in a PVL thread to an in-depth discussion of the legality vs morality of prostitution vs gambling, just Wow! And the battle is btw two combatants normally, mostly on the same side!

Off season boredom

 

[Vee]

Off season boredom

100%. I didn't think the didgee game was on for a few weeks yet until I heard an ad yesterday. It's not real footy, but it'll do until the real footy starts.

Thank God! I was going insane in the dead time in January, suddenly it's almost time again for me to strap in and get excited.

 

[Iamback]

Wow! I check this thread each day for new lines of interest and usually there's several pages of reading, the vast majority of which is petty, small-mindedpersonal attacks so I mostly start at the last page and only check back if there is something of interest mentioned.

I'm in the middle on PVL, he's far and away the best leader we've had but that doesn't excuse his many spectacular failures. To go from there in a PVL thread to an in-depth discussion of the legality vs morality of prostitution vs gambling, just Wow! And the battle is btw two combatants normally, mostly on the same side!

I'd probably give an 8/10. What do you see as the many failures?

 

[Vee]

I'd probably give an 8/10. What do you see as the many failures?

"Rusted on AFL state", TV deals, stadium losses, junior and bush funding, the concessions to club bosses and the RLPA that give them way too much power, the fights with the NSWRL and QRL, there are others but that's enough to be getting on with.

 

[Iamback]

"Rusted on AFL state", TV deals, stadium losses, junior and bush funding, the concessions to club bosses and the RLPA that give them way too much power, the fights with the NSWRL and QRL, there are others but that's enough to be getting on with.

TV Deal - imo we can't judge yet.

We wouldn't be going into 2027 with 9 games to sell IF the game didn't extend long term. Nor could the purchases get made that are helping the bottomline.

Stadium losses - We have seen the AFL who never lose out. Have a big blow with Gabba and looks like Tasmania too. It isn't good but I am not sure anyone else gets those across the line.

I can't hold that against him because that is higher up.

The club bosses and funding go together - NRL got rid of Development Officers where there was duplication. Clubs are handling that so rightful should be paid extra for that.

as @The_Wookie said holding back funding is to do with power than anything. I'd back QRL IF their cries for more money was for grassroots but it is to give QCup teams extra money. So that like the TV we need to see the outcome to judge.

Too much power to RLPA that is true but what sport doesn't give players too much power. The players know that the game needs them and so do administrators

 

[Colk]

Wow! I check this thread each day for new lines of interest and usually there's several pages of reading, the vast majority of which is petty, small-mindedpersonal attacks so I mostly start at the last page and only check back if there is something of interest mentioned.

I'm in the middle on PVL, he's far and away the best leader we've had but that doesn't excuse his many spectacular failures. To go from there in a PVL thread to an in-depth discussion of the legality vs morality of prostitution vs gambling, just Wow! And the battle is btw two combatants normally, mostly on the same side!

1. Meh I was very bored.
2. I find hypocrisy humorous. He goes on about the exploitative nature of gambling then engages in something that is as equally exploitative. He frames one as immoral and one as moral because he likes one and doesn’t like the other. In essence do whatever you like or want but don’t lecture everybody else.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

"Rusted on AFL state", TV deals, stadium losses, junior and bush funding, the concessions to club bosses and the RLPA that give them way too much power, the fights with the NSWRL and QRL, there are others but that's enough to be getting on with.

I’m not too fussed with any of those bar the TV deal. Massive f**k up there. Not sure you can pin the stadium losses on him. Not many options in front of you when governments break promises apart from threatening to shift the GF. NSW government will just outbid the other states which is far cheaper than an Accor rebuild.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

1. Meh I was very bored.
2. I find hypocrisy humorous. He goes on about the exploitative nature of gambling then engages in something that is as equally exploitative. He frames one as immoral and one as moral because he likes one and doesn’t like the other. In essence do whatever you like or want but don’t lecture everybody else.

And just on point 2, he brings up pokies incessantly. People eventually bite

 

[Iamback]

I’m not too fussed with any of those bar the TV deal. Massive f**k up there. Not sure you can pin the stadium losses on him. Not many options in front of you when governments break promises apart from threatening to shift the GF. NSW government will just outbid the other states which is far cheaper than an Accor rebuild.

It is hard because we don't know the figures for TV. But let's assume you are right in this deal is unders. Look at the alternative.

sign a reduced 2-3 year deal takes us to 2024.

No Dolphins
No buying hotels or Vegas

New deal starts in 2025. Dolphins would be looking to start 2025 or 2026. That deal would go to 2029. You are probably looking at Team 18 for 2028.

In 2028 as it stands the next TV deal is into it's 2nd year with a 9th game and looking to expand further. On top of close to $1b in revenue

I don't think the game would be better in 2028 under that alternate model

 

[Wb1234]

The next issue pvl has to sort out

 

[Iamback]

The next issue pvl has to sort out

That is one of those duplication issues.

the lower graders in that article come under the NSWRL banner. So not sure you can apply Transfer fees etc.

Salary Cap relief is probably all that is in the NRL scope

 

[Colk]

That is one of those duplication issues.

the lower graders in that article come under the NSWRL banner. So not sure you can apply Transfer fees etc.

Salary Cap relief is probably all that is in the NRL scope

The only way you could do it is have another system in conjunction with the salary cap. The only way you can set deductions/concessions etc and being able to police it properly.

A transfer fee is probably the easiest and quickest way to do it.

 

[Iamback]

The only way you could do it is have another system in conjunction with the salary cap. The only way you can set deductions/concessions etc and being able to police it properly.

A transfer fee is probably the easiest and quickest way to do it.

You also have teams paying for schooling and stuff so a transfer fee makes sense.

 

[Wb1234]

That is one of those duplication issues.

the lower graders in that article come under the NSWRL banner. So not sure you can apply Transfer fees etc.

Salary Cap relief is probably all that is in the NRL scope

Up to 2 million allowed over the cap is what’s needed

that would mean every club would have to follow

the increase in junior funding would come from clubs and leagues clubs so wouldn’t cost the game a cent

provides more incentive to invest in juniors vs transfer fee

 

[Vee]

TV Deal - imo we can't judge yet.

We wouldn't be going into 2027 with 9 games to sell IF the game didn't extend long term. Nor could the purchases get made that are helping the bottomline.

Stadium losses - We have seen the AFL who never lose out. Have a big blow with Gabba and looks like Tasmania too. It isn't good but I am not sure anyone else gets those across the line.

I can't hold that against him because that is higher up.

The club bosses and funding go together - NRL got rid of Development Officers where there was duplication. Clubs are handling that so rightful should be paid extra for that.

as @The_Wookie said holding back funding is to do with power than anything. I'd back QRL IF their cries for more money was for grassroots but it is to give QCup teams extra money. So that like the TV we need to see the outcome to judge.

Too much power to RLPA that is true but what sport doesn't give players too much power. The players know that the game needs them and so do administrators

I've followed the arguments on both sides, I consider them all failures.