Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[Fangs]

Been saying the same about the NSW Origin team for a few years now...

Please explain.

No I'm not Pauline Hanson just elaborate.

 

[T to the T]

Is there really any value in a 9's? It's just a glorified pre-season warm-up.

I think 23-24 games is still the sweet spot. Allows everyone to still play eachother should the NRL expand again (hello Adelaide and Brisbane 3 in 2040), still have a Vegas/Magic weekend and clubs have at least 10/11 home games.

That said, can't really fault anything PvL is saying or doing

 

[Iamback]

Is there really any value in a 9's? It's just a glorified pre-season warm-up.

I think 23-24 games is still the sweet spot. Allows everyone to still play eachother should the NRL expand again (hello Adelaide and Brisbane 3 in 2040), still have a Vegas/Magic weekend and clubs have at least 10/11 home games.

That said, can't really fault anything PvL is saying or doing

That is the thing. Teams don't send proper teams anyway.

24 is ideal in 20 team comp, everyone once and allows for 5 local derbies/big match ups.

How to shorten the current 28 week comp is the question

 

[johnny plath]

That is the thing. Teams don't send proper teams anyway.

24 is ideal in 20 team comp, everyone once and allows for 5 local derbies/big match ups.

How to shorten the current 28 week comp is the question

This is no change to what we have now. Teams play 24 games.. just have 3 byes each to make 27 rounds.

 

[Wb1234]

There are 204 games currently.

And new teams in Perth, PNG and NZ will be the three most expensive teams in the comp.

PNG wont
Nz2 will be covered by the nz tv deal

Only Perth

 

[Wb1234]

 

[Iamback]

This is no change to what we have now. Teams play 24 games.. just have 3 byes each to make 27 rounds.

A 20 team comp there is no need for byes. Whether it better having byes in the comp or seasons starting later is for the RLPA to decide. Atleast have a say in.

You can't bring in say NZ 2 or Brisbane 3 and not guarantee home games against Warriors and Broncos.

 

[Iamback]

There are 204 games currently.

And new teams in Perth, PNG and NZ will be the three most expensive teams in the comp.

It really is that simple.

Further on that. Of those remaining games you are removing 5 Games from Broncos, Souffs and other sides that rate well and replacing that with PNG and so on.

So the value to TV isn't there, so in theory it looks good. Reality makes it difficult

 

[Wb1234]

A 20 team comp there is no need for byes. Whether it better having byes in the comp or seasons starting later is for the RLPA to decide. Atleast have a say in.

You can't bring in say NZ 2 or Brisbane 3 and not guarantee home games against Warriors and Broncos.

Byes now are due to origin

 

[jim_57]

Who goes through an off season and thinks “you know what, I could go another 5 weeks of this”?

Ensuring some resting & squad rotation would be a better idea than cutting 1/4 of the season and all the implications that would come with it. Reducing/stagnating the value of the TV deal, reducing the amount of home games for clubs and gifting competitors free air space are all bad ideas.

 

[Reflector]

Please explain.

No I'm not Pauline Hanson just elaborate.

Regardless of how the NRL Origin side was faring, NSW were winning the lower grades consistently.

 

[MugaB]

That is the thing. Teams don't send proper teams anyway.

24 is ideal in 20 team comp, everyone once and allows for 5 local derbies/big match ups.

How to shorten the current 28 week comp is the question

Don't have byes is a start, we have 3 byes for each team currently and we added a round zero purely for the vegas teams, that already makes it a 24 round comp,
All that needs to be done is set up a conference system, that you hold derbies with your closest neighbouring clubs, and that's it, 19 rounds vs everyone, add 4 derbies, then a magic round (suncorp obviously, let the broadcasters choose the best match up, and also make it where clubs dress in heritage kits) all equals 24, you get those derbies, and an even comp as everyone plays each other..
Of course this happens now, but there's a more definitive outline as to why certain clubs play others moreso, and make the derby games worth 3 points

Set up a north, west, south, and east division/pool
NORTH= Png, Cows, Tans, Phins, Bronx
WEST= Perf, Riff, Pawwa, Dawgs, Wests
SOUTH= Storm, Raiders, Souffs, St.Merge, Sharks
EAST= Nites, Eagles, Rorters, Wahs, NZ2

Doing this avoids teams like Storm vs Cows or Perth vs Warriors playing twice a season, also splits up the Sydney based sides, and forces them to travel

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Byes now are due to origin

There are 17 teams dopey.

 

[Iamback]

Don't have byes is a start, we have 3 byes for each team currently and we added a round zero purely for the vegas teams, that already makes it a 24 round comp,
All that needs to be done is set up a conference system, that you hold derbies with your closest neighbouring clubs, and that's it, 19 rounds vs everyone, add 4 derbies, then a magic round (suncorp obviously, let the broadcasters choose the best match up, and also make it where clubs dress in heritage kits) all equals 24, you get those derbies, and an even comp as everyone plays each other..
Of course this happens now, but there's a more definitive outline as to why certain clubs play others moreso, and make the derby games worth 3 points

Set up a north, west, south, and east division/pool
NORTH= Png, Cows, Tans, Phins, Bronx
WEST= Perf, Riff, Pawwa, Dawgs, Wests
SOUTH= Storm, Raiders, Souffs, St.Merge, Sharks
EAST= Nites, Eagles, Rorters, Wahs, NZ2

Doing this avoids teams like Storm vs Cows or Perth vs Warriors playing twice a season, also splits up the Sydney based sides, and forces them to travel

I think breaking them up is the key. Removing byes means the comp isn't starting 1st week of March. Means you can start Pre season later which takes workload off the players too

 

[Captain Apollo]

Please explain.

No I'm not Pauline Hanson just elaborate.

The last three Under 19 Origin Men's series, which admittedly were 1 game series, were all won by NSW.

In fact, Qld haven't won an Under 19s Men's Origin match since 2005 according to this list - https://18thman.com/representative/under-19s-origin/

 

[Chimp]

Don't have byes is a start, we have 3 byes for each team currently and we added a round zero purely for the vegas teams, that already makes it a 24 round comp,
All that needs to be done is set up a conference system, that you hold derbies with your closest neighbouring clubs, and that's it, 19 rounds vs everyone, add 4 derbies, then a magic round (suncorp obviously, let the broadcasters choose the best match up, and also make it where clubs dress in heritage kits) all equals 24, you get those derbies, and an even comp as everyone plays each other..
Of course this happens now, but there's a more definitive outline as to why certain clubs play others moreso, and make the derby games worth 3 points

Set up a north, west, south, and east division/pool
NORTH= Png, Cows, Tans, Phins, Bronx
WEST= Perf, Riff, Pawwa, Dawgs, Wests
SOUTH= Storm, Raiders, Souffs, St.Merge, Sharks
EAST= Nites, Eagles, Rorters, Wahs, NZ2

Doing this avoids teams like Storm vs Cows or Perth vs Warriors playing twice a season, also splits up the Sydney based sides, and forces them to travel

There’s certainly merit to something like this, and it’s how expect wider expansion to go.
I suspect as a minimum, you’d swap Souths and Manly in your proposal so that Souths/Roosters play twice, but overall, looks decent.

 

[Iamback]

There’s certainly merit to something like this, and it’s how expect wider expansion to go.
I suspect as a minimum, you’d swap Souths and Manly in your proposal so that Souths/Roosters play twice, but overall, looks decent.

Yeah there would be tweeks to the actual pools but that keeps TV and clubs happy

 

[Diesel]

Is there really any value in a 9's? It's just a glorified pre-season warm-up.

I think 23-24 games is still the sweet spot. Allows everyone to still play eachother should the NRL expand again (hello Adelaide and Brisbane 3 in 2040), still have a Vegas/Magic weekend and clubs have at least 10/11 home games.

That said, can't really fault anything PvL is saying or doing

I wouldn’t mind if 9’s became a summer circuit with the levels below NRL, or players returning from long term injuries playing. Perhaps 3 events per summer, all in regional non-NRL areas, one in NZ, two in Aust. 3 days with no kick off before 6pm

 

[MugaB]

There’s certainly merit to something like this, and it’s how expect wider expansion to go.
I suspect as a minimum, you’d swap Souths and Manly in your proposal so that Souths/Roosters play twice, but overall, looks decent.

Sorry but souths are in the South division, and Sydney roosters are in the East division, having them in the same division serves no purpose, not when you can have them play a derbies in magic round, suncorp, besides Manly definitely ain't south

 

[Wb1234]

Sorry but souths are in the South division, and Sydney roosters are in the East division, having them in the same division serves no purpose, not when you can have them play a derbies in magic round, suncorp, besides Manly definitely ain't south

Roosters souths at Suncorp but not Allianz

LOL