Phil Hughes - When do we drop him?

[snoozer]

Man you have to stop.

This is ridiculous.

It's truly amazing you haven't ripped your c**k off.

I'm thinking phil is going to go missing and you'll have him in some sort of basement rape dungeon getting him to rub the lotion etc.

 

[BunniesMan]

MA, he did. He quit the BBL last season and didn't play in the IPL this season while he focused on working on his technique. He's now in form and scoring runs in all forms of the game and CA sees him as another Warner. Someone to represent us in all forms of the game.

And like Clarke, I think both Warner and Hughes and players like them will reduce their workload and drop the hit and giggle when they get closer to 30 and their body starts being sore the morning after games.

 

[BunniesMan]

Picked in the ODI team. Set to make his debut next week.

Another one of my predictions proven right.

Hughes's career trajectory is going nowhere but up.

 

[Liverrabbit]

Usman, should be playing in Adelaide. f**king Quiney.

Hughes, needs to wait Cowan and Warner have done enough. He is making runs, which is great.

I am actually liking the idea of Warner down the order in tests, and get him to spin bowling coach.

Cowan is POO.

 

[snoozer]

Cowan is POO.

I don't think he's actually poo.

He certainly doesn't look very comfortable out in the middle most of the time but He seems to have technique.
Maybe he'll improve if given more time. Maybe they need to give him a rest in reggies.

I rate him and Hughes about the same at the moment. Like them both, would like to see them go on with it but doubt whether they will.

I think Kwaj is a better option.

 

[BunniesMan]

Khawaja isn't even scoring a mountain of runs at Shield level...

Don't get me wrong. He's a big talent and I'm a fan and I hope he is the one to replace Hussey but he doesn't deserve to be ahead of Hughes or even Cowan. And I don't even like Cowan.

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Hes 3rd in SS runs for the year you fool, yes we got the point hughes is good, but he also got out too 2 shit house shots this test, he pulls that in england and he wont be in the team for the return series.

As for Khawaja, hes Carrying the thunder atm, if he wasnt they would have struggled to get too 100 once this season.

 

[Liverrabbit]

I don't think he's actually poo.

He certainly doesn't look very comfortable out in the middle most of the time but He seems to have technique.
Maybe he'll improve if given more time. Maybe they need to give him a rest in reggies.

I rate him and Hughes about the same at the moment. Like them both, would like to see them go on with it but doubt whether they will.

I think Kwaj is a better option.

Mate i thought he looked very ordinary against the spinner yesterday. With an eye on the tour to India he would be the first bloke to go out of the top order. Hughes has been going fairly well since coming back and is 6 years younger than Cowan. Cowan is far to slow and pedestrian at times and i believe it affects the batsmen at the other end knowing they have to be the ones that up the tempo and take the risks while Cowan keeps letting it through to the keeper.

I rate Kwaj as well and think he should be there in the top order for india.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

What BM fails time and time to understand in this argument is that Usi can carry a team, be it QLD Bulls or Thunder, in Sheffield, Ryobi or T-20 format, on his shoulders. Hughes can't. I've seen Khawaja bail out a team from total embarrassment time and time again last year. He would have bigger scores had the rest of the team done their job and not make his that much harder. Put Hughes in the same boat and he cracks. Now the genius thinks Khawaja doesn't belong in front of Cowan too? BM, still the biggest dickhead on the net. No consistency in his posts, contradicts himself and the biggest hypocrite on this forum. bang your head and forget your password will ya.

 

[BunniesMan]

Hes 3rd in SS runs for the year you fool, yes we got the point hughes is good, but he also got out too 2 shit house shots this test, he pulls that in england and he wont be in the team for the return series.

As for Khawaja, hes Carrying the thunder atm, if he wasnt they would have struggled to get too 100 once this season.

CA's official website stats say no:
http://www.cricket.com.au/series/sheffield-shield-201213

And it's becomes painfully obvious when people are criticising Hughes just because I like him and not legitimately. How can you say he got out 2 a shit house shot? He's the only real batsman who didn't throw his wicket away in the 1st innings. He got beaten by genuine uneven bounce.

If you're on his back for how he got out there you have to complain about Warner and Cowan aswell.

What BM fails time and time to understand in this argument is that Usi can carry a team, be it QLD Bulls or Thunder, in Sheffield, Ryobi or T-20 format, on his shoulders. Hughes can't. I've seen Khawaja bail out a team from total embarrassment time and time again last year. He would have bigger scores had the rest of the team done their job and not make his that much harder. Put Hughes in the same boat and he cracks. Now the genius thinks Khawaja doesn't belong in front of Cowan too? BM, still the biggest dickhead on the net. No consistency in his posts, contradicts himself and the biggest hypocrite on this forum. bang your head and forget your password will ya.

"carry a team" is meaningless weasel words that people use when they don't have real evidence to back themselves.

What does that even mean. At what point does one begin carrying a team and at what point does one stop carrying a team.

Would you call being leading run scorer for your Shield team and leading run scorer for your Ryobi cup team carrying your team? What about scoring a century in your shield debut. What about scoring a crucial century in your first ever shield final? Would you call leading your County team in runs in all 3 forms of the game as carrying your team?

No I guess you wouldn't because Hughes has done all of that and he apparently doesn't carry anything.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

You've got a simpsons poster, an Andrew Johns poster and a Ferrari poster hanging on your wall Pete, I can only assume you hang your Philly J posters on the cum stained walls of your gimp cupboard.

 

[Fufu Andronez]

Khawaja isn't even scoring a mountain of runs at Shield level...

Don't get me wrong. He's a big talent and I'm a fan and I hope he is the one to replace Hussey but he doesn't deserve to be ahead of Hughes or even Cowan. And I don't even like Cowan.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...most_runs_career.html?id=7544;type=tournament

According to this Khawaja is 3rd in the shield for runs. Regardless u are correct in saying he's a big talent I reckon he should be given first crack at Husseys spot.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

CA's official website stats say no:
http://www.cricket.com.au/series/sheffield-shield-201213


"carry a team" is meaningless weasel words that people use when they don't have real evidence to back themselves.

What does that even mean. At what point does one begin carrying a team and at what point does one stop carrying a team.

Would you call being leading run scorer for your Shield team and leading run scorer for your Ryobi cup team carrying your team? What about scoring a century in your shield debut. What about scoring a crucial century in your first ever shield final? Would you call leading your County team in runs in all 3 forms of the game as carrying your team?

No I guess you wouldn't because Hughes has done all of that and he apparently doesn't carry anything.

Hughes scores runs when everyone else is scoring runs on batting decks. He has always been successful in those situations. However when his sides are down 4/30 it's a different situation. That's carrying a team you jock sniffer. Hughes has had opportunities to really knuckle down and fight for his runs like Warner did in Hobart in 2011 plenty of times and comes up short.

I'd take a Khawaja 120-odd on a seaming, uneven deck where he bats out and the no one comes close to even halving that score over a Hughes 150 on a road where another 2 or 3 blokes also score centuries.

You're a wank who lives off stats alone, you haven't the faintest feel for the game in real life. Go back to cricinfo and wank over numbers. Maybe one day you'll see players like Chris Rogers, Brad Hodge etc have also been the leading run scorers in Sheffield Shield and ultimately it didn't mean a single thing.

 

[BunniesMan]

He led his County team in all 3 forms of the game. In County cricket there is a wide variety of pitches including mean seam and swing friendly tracks.

And he fought hard for his 80 in Hobart. That was not a flat track. Runs didn't come easily to him but he did well.

 

[mozza91]

He led his County team in all 3 forms of the game. In County cricket there is a wide variety of pitches including mean seam and swing friendly tracks.

And he fought hard for his 80 in Hobart. That was not a flat track. Runs didn't come easily to him but he did well.

You mean the pitch when Australia scored 5 for 450 and shitty Sri Lanka got easily their largest total of the series. Yeah absolute minefield.

Hughes is pretty iffy imo he looked absolutely lost whenever he faced spin against Sri Lanka. If he goes to India and doesn't score many that could be his last chance gone.

 

[Twizzle]

same could be said about alot of opening batsmen, they generally dont face alot of spin

 

[BunniesMan]

Indian pitches are roads these days.

They get tv rights money on a per day basis. So tests lasting 3 or 4 days cost them a lot of money.

There won't be any shocking turners.

And besides, Shane Watson struggles even more against spin. And as a batsman only he'll be on the chopping block before Hughes is.

 

[El Diablo]

Indian pitches are roads these days.

They get tv rights money on a per day basis. So tests lasting 3 or 4 days cost them a lot of money.

There won't be any shocking turners.

And besides, Shane Watson struggles even more against spin. And as a batsman only he'll be on the chopping block before Hughes is.

Stupid personified

 

[mozza91]

Indian pitches are roads these days.

They get tv rights money on a per day basis. So tests lasting 3 or 4 days cost them a lot of money.

There won't be any shocking turners.

And besides, Shane Watson struggles even more against spin. And as a batsman only he'll be on the chopping block before Hughes is.

There was just a series India where the top 4 wicket takers were spin bowlers who got 70 wickets between them. I'd say there is some value in these pitches for the spinners.

 

[hineyrulz]

Indian pitches are roads these days.

They get tv rights money on a per day basis. So tests lasting 3 or 4 days cost them a lot of money.

There won't be any shocking turners.

And besides, Shane Watson struggles even more against spin. And as a batsman only he'll be on the chopping block before Hughes is.

:lol: Too stupid for words, they will produce dustbowls and play 3 spinners. It backfired agaisnt the Poms who have two world calss spinners while we have Lyon.