Players refusing to sing the National anthem in protest

[magpie4ever]

So you do you still think I didn't realise it was a rewrite? The hahaha irony is you can't comprehend words in front of you.

No chimp, it is just the rewrite was likely intend to give it a different meaning to a new country.

But like your counterpart Bandy, you have a deeper issue of being unable to consider you are wrong, at times.

It is funny.

 

[Knuckle-dragger]

The intention of the song is offensive!

Why do you believe this to be so?

 

[unforgiven]

Why do you believe this to be so?

It is not necessarily me that finds it offensive, but when reading the original lyrics I can see why others would! It is obviously a song that's intention was to promote an Anglo country, to promote British belief and values over all others. That the line Advance Australia fair was not intended to be inclusive! Why do we have to use such a song that goes against an inclusive Australia as the basis of our Anthem? Why is it not ok to start a discussion about changing it to something more inclusive of all Australians?

 

[Willow]

it is just the rewrite was likely intend to give it a different meaning to a new country.

Did you work that out all by yourself? I'm impressed.

But like your counterpart Bandy, you have a deeper issue of being unable to consider you are wrong, at times.

It is funny.

Curious as to why you keep mentioning bandy. He hasn't even posted in this thread.
He mist have really owned you somewhere else.
What's that they say about living rent free in your head?

 

[Knuckle-dragger]

It is not necessarily me that finds it offensive, but when reading the original lyrics I can see why others would! It is obviously a song that's intention was to promote an Anglo country, to promote British belief and values over all others. That the line Advance Australia fair was not intended to be inclusive! Why do we have to use such a song that goes against an inclusive Australia as the basis of our Anthem? Why is it not ok to start a discussion about changing it to something more inclusive of all Australians?

Thanks, I get where you're coming from.

 

[veggiepatch1959]

Throw this thread to the Cave or better still, Four Corners.

Let those mental midgets figure it out.

 

[magpie4ever]

Did you work that out all by yourself? I'm impressed.
Curious as to why you keep mentioning bandy. He hasn't even posted in this thread.
He mist have really owned you somewhere else.
What's that they say about living rent free in your head?

No champ, you have similar mental issues - it is funny.

 

[Willow]

It lost in 1977 and with good reason.

A song about a 19th century livestock thief who commits suicide when apprehended. Very politically correct, that. Sure to hit the spot with the indigenous folk. And if people have trouble with girt, imagine jolly jumbucks, billabongs, squatters, swagmen, etc.



28% in a field of four. The winner got 43%. Maybe they could have another plebiscite with this Seekers one and Peter Allen's one as well. Something tells me neither would placate those who have issues with the current one. Someone has suggested Treaty but that is hardly national anthem material. If they have that they should also have The Real Thing, if you are going to be a laughing stock might as well go all the way. Don't be surprised if the existing one gets up again.

Good joke but every song needs to be written, even national anthems.

And national anthems are only songs.

I agree that "Waltzing Matilda" is a hard sell, and is probably destined to remain as a bush ballad. Nevertheless, it is highly regarded. FTR, we are familiar with Billy Tea radio advert version, not the original Banjo Paterson version. Which should be a sobering thought for those who say songs in commercials don't count.

And it's worth a reminder that "I am Australian" was the song of choice in the Australian Parliament, and apparently on a bipartisan level.

 

[TheFrog]

And it's worth a reminder that "I am Australian" was the song of choice in the Australian Parliament, and apparently on a bipartisan level.

I can see it now. Someone will pipe up and say "My great great great grandfather was murdered by Ned Kelly and now you've got him in the national anthem." Media will actively seek out such persons if they don't come forward. Might as well write a ditty about Dennis Ferguson or Ivan Milat and put that forward.

 

[Willow]

If your great great great grandfather was murdered by Ned Kelly, then you must have had a child bride or two in your ancestry.

Otherwise it was a tremendous post, well researched and without a hint of sarcasm.

I can see it now. Someone will pipe up and say "My great great great grandfather was murdered by Ned Kelly and now you've got him in the national anthem." Media will actively seek out such persons if they don't come forward. Might as well write a ditty about Dennis Ferguson or Ivan Milat and put that forward.

 

[TheFrog]

If your great great great grandfather was murdered by Ned Kelly, then you must have had a child bride or two in your ancestry.

Off topic, but my Mum is 85 and has a great great grandson. Ned was sentenced to death for murder 55 years before my mother was born, so the policeman he murdered could have been her great grandfather.

 

[mave]

Any new date or anthem change will always offend some interest group.

I guess the question is do we offend a new group, or continue to offend the current group.

 

[unforgiven]

Any new date or anthem change will always offend some interest group.

I guess the question is do we offend a new group, or continue to offend the current group.

Yeah its just too hard so lets forget about it!

 

[mave]

Yeah its just too hard so lets forget about it!

Well that seems like a very immature attitude to take, but each to their own.

 

[2 weeks]

Good anthem for an airline but I don’t know why we’d be name dropping other countries in our anthem

Okay

If i had to choose the new anthem it would be this

 

[unforgiven]

Well that seems like a very immature attitude to take, but each to their own.

Isn't that what you were trying to say?

 

[Willow]

Off topic, but my Mum is 85 and has a great great grandson. Ned was sentenced to death for murder 55 years before my mother was born, so the policeman he murdered could have been her great grandfather.

I had a grandfather who was born in 1878, two years before Kelly was hanged. He was 58 yrs old when my father was born. My grandmother was 10 years younger. In the 1970s, I recall her stories about her parents and in-laws having met Ned Kelly. They lived in Shepparton, Vic., so it's quite possible.

Yeah, way off topic. But these weren't the only stories and we were lucky to hear how people used to live and how they got around in the old days.

 

[AJB1102]

Are these blokes even trying to protest the anthem as such? It seems its just never been a thing in their lives and they've never sung it and don't intend to start singing it this Wednesday.

"I don't sing the anthem" is like "I keep tomato sauce in the fridge" - each to their own, no need to get upset if you do the opposite.

 

[SBD82]

Are these blokes even trying to protest the anthem as such? It seems its just never been a thing in their lives and they've never sung it and don't intend to start singing it this Wednesday.

"I don't sing the anthem" is like "I keep tomato sauce in the fridge" - each to their own, no need to get upset if you do the opposite.

I consider myself a pretty tolerant person, but come on... leave your dead horse in the cupboard.

And while we are at it, people who hang a toilet roll the wrong way are a plague on society.

 

[Canard]

I consider myself a pretty tolerant person, but come on... leave your dead horse in the cupboard.

And while we are at it, people who hang a toilet roll the wrong way are a plague on society.

I feel same about people who don't like Vegemite.

They are dead to me...