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Wb1234

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I never believed that "big in China" bs - yes that the top tier of the game should be more than NSW, Qld & Auckland, though.. and Superleague attracted a lot of people determined to make hard decisions to enable that... and I think PNG (as things currently stand) is a foolish option for expansion.

There are a number of options that are better developed for expanding to 20 teams, options that aren't 3rd world locations with serious infrastructure & security issues.
Yep super league took the hard decision to keep Cronulla alive whist killing of the crushers and Gold Coast and Perth
 

Wb1234

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When’s the college players coming? Won’t need png once we get all the yanks coming over to nrl. Vlandys got this.
And if he snags a gambling deal you will cry even more about pokie dens

but sure trying to grow rugby league in America is a bad thing because it makes English super league and afl look pathetic
 

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And if he snags a gambling deal you will cry even more about pokie dens

but sure trying to grow rugby league in America is a bad thing because it makes English super league and afl look pathetic
Forget china, usa is where it’s at baby.
 

flippikat

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Yep super league took the hard decision to keep Cronulla alive whist killing of the crushers and Gold Coast and Perth
The merger deal made an ass out of everyone, as self-interest ruled there.

One positive move that News Ltd/Superleague made was getting a Melbourne team in the competition.. but the flaw was that they "gamed" that expansion with closure of other clubs that were strategically important.

Might have been better for them to pick Melbourne instead of Adelaide from the start as one of the original Superleague teams in 1997.
 

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The merger deal made an ass out of everyone, as self-interest ruled there.

One positive move that News Ltd/Superleague made was getting a Melbourne team in the competition.. but the flaw was that they "gamed" that expansion with closure of other clubs that were strategically important.

Might have been better for them to pick Melbourne instead of Adelaide from the start as one of the original Superleague teams in 1997.
Yeh I agree with that last paragraph

should’ve kept Perth and crushers too
 

flippikat

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Yeh I agree with that last paragraph

should’ve kept Perth and crushers too
The Crushers & Titans - both ARL-loyal clubs - were on thin ice because News (via their Broncos stake) wanted a SE-Queensland monopoly. Again, self-interest dominating the negotiations of the peace deal.
 

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The Crushers & Titans - both ARL-loyal clubs - were on thin ice because News (via their Broncos stake) wanted a SE-Queensland monopoly. Again, self-interest dominating the negotiations of the peace deal.
If super league had never come around you’d have wests and Cronulla would’ve died off but everyone else would’ve survived

12 teams was too low so was 14
 

flippikat

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If super league had never come around you’d have wests and Cronulla would’ve died off but everyone else would’ve survived

12 teams was too low so was 14
That's making the huge assumption that the ARL wouldn't have bailed out the Sharks & Magpies.

You're 100% right about the game needing more than 14 teams for a decent footprint - but with the 20 teams we had in 1995, getting Melbourne, Adelaide, NZ2 and another Queensland team (whether Central Coast, Brisbane, central Qld or where-ever) in the competition would have needed 24 teams, so some tough decisions had to be made to rebalance things.
 

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That's making the huge assumption that the ARL wouldn't have bailed out the Sharks & Magpies.

You're 100% right about the game needing more than 14 teams for a decent footprint - but with the 20 teams we had in 1995, getting Melbourne, Adelaide, NZ2 and another Queensland team (whether Central Coast, Brisbane, central Qld or where-ever) in the competition would have needed 24 teams, so some tough decisions had to be made to rebalance things.
They kicked out the magpies in the 80s but they went to court and won the appeal
 

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Anyone know if they have started having junior development sides?

PNG launch their first-ever Elite Junior Academy for Rugby League

Rugby League in Papua New Guinea has taken another major step forward with the creation of the first-ever Academy for elite junior players.
The most talented 14 to 16 year-old players in the country will now receive the best possible coaching, mentoring and off-field support as part of PNG’s bid to become the next NRL club.
The program will launch in Port Moresby on Monday 17 July, with a view towards becoming a national program in the coming years, with 74 players initially identified from over 60 schools in the National Central District.
All players will receive specialist coaching, with the focus being on enhancing players’ technical skills and decision-making abilities. In addition, all players will be physically tested and given programs that will align them with those of the same age-group that are currently in the NRL Club system.
With coaching and guidance crucial at this stage of a player’s development, the Academy will provide a vital step towards an elite player pathway model that will educate young PNG players about all aspects required to become an NRL player, both on and off the field. It will also provide another important building block in the overall structure of rugby league in the country.
Andrew Hill, PNG NRL Bid CEO, saw the Academy as another major step in the development of rugby league in PNG:
“Launching an Academy for our best 14 to 16 year-old’s, is a major step forward when it comes to creating an elite player pathway for the game in PNG.”
“Having visited a number of NRL clubs over the past few months, I’m confident that the program we have created will provide talented young players the opportunity to be successful and on par with NRL Clubs in Australia.
“Having witnessed the success in recent seasons at the Parramatta Eels with Joey Grima leading the academy programs, I know our players in PNG will be given the right environment for success. The Parramatta Eels won the U/19 competition this year and many players had been in that system for several years.”
“We are looking to create a structure that can identify and develop the next Justin Olam, Edwin Ipape or Elise Albert, and take them on a journey to playing in the NRL.”
“I would like to thank the Prime Minister, and the Minister of Sport, Don Polye, for assisting this project and helping us take our elite player pathway model to another level. The NRL Bid is looking forward to helping with the Government’s Go Rural Go Global strategy over the next few years.”
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A Papua New Guinean NRL team based partly in Cairns would draw footy-mad crowds from all corners of the state, a community representative has claimed.

The federal government has thrown its weight behind the idea of introducing a Papua New Guinean club as the 18th NRL team after announcing $5.5m to help the nation grow its game to the elite level. Should that eventuate, Cairns is often spoken about as a possible part-time host city for a PNG team.

Dianne Austrai-Ombiga, the secretary of PNG and Wantoks Association Cairns, said the Far North’s Papua New Guinean community was very excited about that possibility.

"Cairns is a familiar ground for PNG players. The PNG Hunters have competed in the Queensland Cup since 2013, winning in 2017, and share a strategic NRL pathway with the Dolphins. I can see it bringing big crowds … games played in Cairns would pull PNG supporters from as far as Brisbane. People would drive from Charters Towers and other remote towns just to be at the games,” Ms Austrai-Ombiga said.

The community has good reason to be excited – the stars appear to be almost completely aligned.

Peter V’landys, chairman of the Australian Rugby League Commission, recently stated a Papua New Guinean team would be at the top of the list in the NRL’s expansion plans.

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has endorsed the idea, and the federal minister for the Pacific Pat Conroy reiterated the government’s support at an event in Port Moresby last week.

Cairns mayor Bob Manning, a stalwart for footy in FNQ, has travelled to Canberra this week with a delegation from the FNQ Regional Organisation of Councils, and has Cairns’ NRL prospects on his agenda.

“I hope to come back with an indication that this idea will take some shape,” Mr Manning said.

“I’ll be meeting with one or two people relevant to this issue; we’ll be looking to discuss the government’s interest in this.

Cairns Mayor Bob Manning has travelled to Canberra this week as part of a ROC delegation, and has Cairns’ NRL prospects on his agenda.

“I think there’s every reason to believe this idea has legs … I’m still sure Cairns has a strong role to play.”

Trinity Beach resident Albert Karo, whose father emigrated from Papua New Guinea to Australia and played junior footy for St George, said the idea of Cairns hosting home games made sense as Australian NRL players would be needed to support the club during its formative years.

“I do agree with Cairns hosting some games as an adopted city to PNG,” Mr Karo said.

“We can match it with other countries … we have the talent, we just need some experienced players to be that spine for the team, to duplicate what Wayne Bennet has done with the Dolphins.

“Kids in PNG are playing at a young level, but there’s no structure, there’s no clear pathway for kids to get into the NRL. That’s something we need to address.”
 

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A Papua New Guinean NRL team based partly in Cairns would draw footy-mad crowds from all corners of the state, a community representative has claimed.

The federal government has thrown its weight behind the idea of introducing a Papua New Guinean club as the 18th NRL team after announcing $5.5m to help the nation grow its game to the elite level. Should that eventuate, Cairns is often spoken about as a possible part-time host city for a PNG team.

Dianne Austrai-Ombiga, the secretary of PNG and Wantoks Association Cairns, said the Far North’s Papua New Guinean community was very excited about that possibility.

"Cairns is a familiar ground for PNG players. The PNG Hunters have competed in the Queensland Cup since 2013, winning in 2017, and share a strategic NRL pathway with the Dolphins. I can see it bringing big crowds … games played in Cairns would pull PNG supporters from as far as Brisbane. People would drive from Charters Towers and other remote towns just to be at the games,” Ms Austrai-Ombiga said.

The community has good reason to be excited – the stars appear to be almost completely aligned.

Peter V’landys, chairman of the Australian Rugby League Commission, recently stated a Papua New Guinean team would be at the top of the list in the NRL’s expansion plans.

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has endorsed the idea, and the federal minister for the Pacific Pat Conroy reiterated the government’s support at an event in Port Moresby last week.

Cairns mayor Bob Manning, a stalwart for footy in FNQ, has travelled to Canberra this week with a delegation from the FNQ Regional Organisation of Councils, and has Cairns’ NRL prospects on his agenda.

“I hope to come back with an indication that this idea will take some shape,” Mr Manning said.

“I’ll be meeting with one or two people relevant to this issue; we’ll be looking to discuss the government’s interest in this.

Cairns Mayor Bob Manning has travelled to Canberra this week as part of a ROC delegation, and has Cairns’ NRL prospects on his agenda.

“I think there’s every reason to believe this idea has legs … I’m still sure Cairns has a strong role to play.”

Trinity Beach resident Albert Karo, whose father emigrated from Papua New Guinea to Australia and played junior footy for St George, said the idea of Cairns hosting home games made sense as Australian NRL players would be needed to support the club during its formative years.

“I do agree with Cairns hosting some games as an adopted city to PNG,” Mr Karo said.

“We can match it with other countries … we have the talent, we just need some experienced players to be that spine for the team, to duplicate what Wayne Bennet has done with the Dolphins.

“Kids in PNG are playing at a young level, but there’s no structure, there’s no clear pathway for kids to get into the NRL. That’s something we need to address.”
This looks serious. If it is 2028 would be time to put it all in place. In the meantime Perth please.
 

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I dunno… I don’t really see how playing games in Cairns is going to do much to develop the game in PNG… I would expect the away teams fans to dominate the crowds… going up there for a holiday… sounds appealing to me if my team got a game there …

The stadium is pretty ordinary from memory ( never seen it in person though…) I wonder if the Cairns Mayor is looking to put some Council money in to upgrade the stadium?
 

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I dunno… I don’t really see how playing games in Cairns is going to do much to develop the game in PNG… I would expect the away teams fans to dominate the crowds… going up there for a holiday… sounds appealing to me if my team got a game there …

The stadium is pretty ordinary from memory ( never seen it in person though…) I wonder if the Cairns Mayor is looking to put some Council money in to upgrade the stadium?

Cairns has proposed plans for a 20k stadium but it’s no closer to reality than it’s ever been.

I don’t think the PNG bid has ever discussed being partnered with Cairns, as far as I know the Cairns mayor pushed it in the media and the media has just run with it because Cairns is close on the map. Look at that whole article no quotes from the actual PNG bid team.
 
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