PNG's back.

[docbrown]

This whole thing 100% came from the NRL. It's a market research tactic called a controlled leak. It's used in politics and marketing.

Basically you get 2 lower tier employees - call them canaries. They don't know that both are canaries. You tell both the line that you want to market test. In this case, that PNG is a lock for getting a team. You also deliberately choose your journo to target. Someone hungry. You arrange for one of your canaries to be at the same event as the journo. Usually drinks. Walls come down. Your first canary feeds your line. The hungry yet skeptical reporter asks if there's a second source. The canary says 'someone in X department' could confirm. Because they've been told to. The journo tells their editor. You need confirmation though. What a coincidence. There's a second event with the second canary and the journo. Again - more alcohol. 'What's this I've heard about the PNG team?' Genuine surprise from the canary. How did you know? We have confirmation.

Now you idea is published and market tested. Your campaign or marketing team track the story on social media. Do people like the idea? Or not? Why? Other journos contact higher ups at your organisation. Is it true? No, you deny it. But now you know the public response to your thought bubble.

So I'm not saying PNG is getting a team. I'm saying this is a controlled leak specifically to gauge public responses.

 

[Canard]

This is how democracy works

he feels his city has been left out

I suspect if he hadnt have asked to join the png team then they would’ve gone with the original plan of Darwin

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That's not democracy works you imbecile.

This whole thing 100% came from the NRL. It's a market research tactic called a controlled leak. It's used in politics and marketing.

Basically you get 2 lower tier employees - call them canaries. They don't know that both are canaries. You tell both the line that you want to market test. In this case, that PNG is a lock for getting a team. You also deliberately choose your journo to target. Someone hungry. You arrange for one of your canaries to be at the same event as the journo. Usually drinks. Walls come down. Your first canary feeds your line. The hungry yet skeptical reporter asks if there's a second source. The canary says 'someone in X department' could confirm. Because they've been told to. The journo tells their editor. You need confirmation though. What a coincidence. There's a second event with the second canary and the journo. Again - more alcohol. 'What's this I've heard about the PNG team?' Genuine surprise from the canary. How did you know? We have confirmation.

Now you idea is published and market tested. Your campaign or marketing team track the story on social media. Do people like the idea? Or not? Why? Other journos contact higher ups at your organisation. Is it true? No, you deny it. But now you know the public response to your thought bubble.

So I'm not saying PNG is getting a team. I'm saying this is a controlled leak specifically to gauge public responses.

I think it's quaint that you think the NRL is this well organised.

But more to the point, when have the NRL given two shits what the public think of expansion or any of there operations for that matter?

 

[jim_57]

This is how democracy works

he feels his city has been left out

I suspect if he hadnt have asked to join the png team then they would’ve gone with the original plan of Darwin

more qld content is a good thing anyway

the original proposals was called the northern birds of prey and was a joint Northern Territory and png bid

PNG haven’t gone with Cairns at all though. That’s all media beat up stemming from the Mayor wanting to partner with the PNG bid. The latest article was the first time they’ve even suggested being open to the idea of joining with Cairns.

Do you have any links to these original proposals? I remember that idea being floated 10+ years ago, I don’t think there was ever an official bid and I doubt any of the same people are involved if that is the Darwin/PNG proposal you’re talking about.

 

[Wb1234]

PNG haven’t gone with Cairns at all though. That’s all media beat up stemming from the Mayor wanting to partner with the PNG bid. The latest article was the first time they’ve even suggested being open to the idea of joining with Cairns.

Do you have any links to these original proposals? I remember that idea being floated 10+ years ago, I don’t think there was ever an official bid and I doubt any of the same people are involved if that is the Darwin/PNG proposal you’re talking about.

Stuff

i.stuff.co.nz

Closest I could find

Michael searle was appointed to do a study on future nrl expansion

his conclusion was an east coast and pacific league ignoring Perth and Adelaide

nz2 central coast and joint nt and png bids were his proposals

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Michael searle was appointed to do a study on future nrl expansion

his conclusion was an east coast and pacific league ignoring Perth and Adelaide

Perth Red won't be sending him a Christmas card.

 

[Wb1234]

Perth Red won't be sending him a Christmas card.

Oh I forgot to add seale obviously wanted brisbane two as well

 

[Perth Red]

Perth Red won't be sending him a Christmas card.

Like most things nrl pisses it’s money away in the report never saw the light of day lol remember the Richardson one?

 

[Perth Red]

You only have to ask two questions to get the answer on PNG

1. do you think the Govt money will go on forever?
2. do you think PNG is viable without govt money?

most sane people are answering no to both hence the backlash at this weeks news story.

 

[The Great Dane]

That's not democracy works you imbecile.

I think it's quaint that you think the NRL is this well organised.

But more to the point, when have the NRL given two shits what the public think of expansion or any of there operations for that matter?

TBF it does stink of an intentional leak. That's not to say that it definitely is, only that it looks like one.

Who's to say that the NRL leaked it either. For all we know it may have been government entities in either Australia, PNG, or both, or maybe somebody else associated with bid in some way, trying to get the story in the news.

There's a good chance that it isn't a leak at all and it's all just a media beat up as well. Who knows really.

 

[MugaB]

So at least 14 months away, by which time everyone will have forgotten this journalist’s big scoop if she’s wrong. Well played.

If they are so sure it’s a one horse race now they’d announce it sooner, PNG needs all the time they can get to setup NRL standard pathways and infrastructure.

Opposite, the are setting up pathways and infrastructure now before they announce anything, and they want to announce it on that year for the anniversary of PNGs independence

 

[MugaB]

Hang on, didn’t Penrith recently invent junior development from their big catchment area of Juniors?

Big difference between junior and second tier pathways/links and who the locals support in those areas. Keebra Park link up means next to f**k all. Souths aren’t suddenly going to have thousands of fans in Townsville or Titans fans in Ipswich.

Correct right on the money, it don't mean shit, but certain clubs are good at junior development regardless where their "catchments" are, the storm are apparently using sunshine coast as a catchment, and bulldogs are in toowoomba, Auckland and Christchurch ...go figure
Either way my point was, club house being based in cairns, don't mean they are automatically stealing cowboys juniors

 

[MugaB]

PNG government is bid as well, They'd have some data to back it up.

The Easier way is to team up with Easts Tigers or the Bears.

Again though I don't see them being next up but whoever comes in next will have a solid business plan

They wont do that, they want to own the licence...
Perth on the other hand.....

 

[MugaB]

I'd be bringing that forward while Albo is still in charge

Wont matter, its all about setting up those pathways, ive said this before many times, whether the team succeedes is not the goal, thats a goal for the govt, not the NRL, they just want players,
dolphins are sort of the benchmark now, they kept up with the rest, then ran out of depth at the end, most people would say they were a success... as long as the pathways are set up and the "pasifika" hub is created and junior acedemy is up and running, the NRL wins, the licence can transfer to the bears or easts etc... theyll still have their 9 games, not sure why everyone cares so much about the ongoing funding...
And if the govt sticks to its word, funds it for a decade etc great weall win

 

[MugaB]

The Cowboys represent Cairns though and every other town in "North QLD" from just south of Mackay and up.

Ok...
Its a hub, no one is presenting Cairns as anything other than a training site and probably have a game or 2, which is pretty much, more than what they get now... no one is trying to convert the cairns public either, you eant to be cowboys... fine, be cowboys... the nrl are looking to use your location, not there to use your wallets

 

[Vee]

The funniest thing about this forum is rugby league fans will cry when the govt wants to spend money on our game but when our rivals get more govt money they don’t bat an eye lid

eh with fans like those who needs enemies

the cba disaster meant they got delayed or it would’ve been announced this year which affects their lead time

2025 is too soon I really hope albo gives them more time to prepare

I think Perth will be announced in the next six months for entry two years after png but they will have more lead time to sign players

once Vegas is finished they will concentrate on expansion but png will be announced early next season if not sooner

I'm putting you on Ignore, your continuous baseless optimism doesn't make it so.

 

[MugaB]

I'm putting you on Ignore, your continuous baseless optimism doesn't make it so.

My Salty detector is going insane

 

[Vee]

My Salty detector is going insane

Get it checked, it's faulty.

 

[Canard]

Ok...
Its a hub, no one is presenting Cairns as anything other than a training site and probably have a game or 2, which is pretty much, more than what they get now... no one is trying to convert the cairns public either, you eant to be cowboys... fine, be cowboys... the nrl are looking to use your location, not there to use your wallets

Nobody, most of all the NRL has suggested Cairns.

And where is the extra half a billion for a stadium, on top of the hundreds of millions coming from?

 

[MugaB]

Get it checked, it's faulty.

Nope just has extra cowboy fan involved,

...super bias

 

[Canard]

Wont matter, its all about setting up those pathways, ive said this before many times, whether the team succeedes is not the goal, thats a goal for the govt, not the NRL, they just want players,
dolphins are sort of the benchmark now, they kept up with the rest, then ran out of depth at the end, most people would say they were a success... as long as the pathways are set up and the "pasifika" hub is created and junior acedemy is up and running, the NRL wins, the licence can transfer to the bears or easts etc... theyll still have their 9 games, not sure why everyone cares so much about the ongoing funding...
And if the govt sticks to its word, funds it for a decade etc great weall win

Who do you think is funding the "pathways" without the government slush fund?

When the money dries up, so do the "pathways".

Imagine the optics of people dying of starvation and disease next door to an academy where a kid is being taught how to play the ball properly.