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PNG's back.

titoelcolombiano

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How is that travelling for Union?

You do understand the logistical aspects or difficulties having a very poor area like PNG trying to compete against clubs from much wealthier areas creates?
I just answered your question. There is a pro league where a third world country competes with first world countries. And it seems to be working out pretty well for Fiji
 

titoelcolombiano

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This is why I’m saying that it is a bad idea. You should not be blasé about the support that PNG has for the game and automatically assume that it will always be there if it fails. This is a massive risk.

For instance, If you give them a team and you pull it at the first instance of trouble then two things could conceivably occur.

Firstly, you’re giving other sports a free kick right there. RU would love us to have a go and fail. Secondly, having sport linked so inextricably with politics is a massive negative in my opinion. It essentially has to work otherwise if it fails, you are potentially damaging relationships for a very long time.
Yeah but we are all just assuming it's going to fail or be underfunded etc without seeing the details of the plan.

Again, the Govt would have to make a mighty sweet deal, guarantees or upfront payments for the NRL to go for it or it just won't happen in the forst place. Albo would know this and those discussions would be ongoing and may have already been negotiated. I guess we need to wait and see what the final deal is.

I can't see either the NRL or Albo wanting this to fall over after the next election so there'd have to be more to it.
 

Colk

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I just answered your question. There is a pro league where a third world country competes with first world countries. And it seems to be working out pretty well for Fiji

It’s also not a very good example. Who actually watches Super Rugby and why would we want to follow that example
 

mongoose

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Yeah but we are all just assuming it's going to fail or be underfunded etc without seeing the details of the plan.

Again, the Govt would have to make a mighty sweet deal, guarantees or upfront payments for the NRL to go for it or it just won't happen in the forst place. Albo would know this and those discussions would be ongoing and may have already been negotiated. I guess we need to wait and see what the final deal is.

I can't see either the NRL or Albo wanting this to fall over after the next election so there'd have to be more to it.
how do you know this? it is possible than Vlandy's doesn't really care that much about rugba league and just wants to advance his political career. He will probably have left the NRL by the time PNG folds, won't have to answer to anything.
 

Colk

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Yeah but we are all just assuming it's going to fail or be underfunded etc without seeing the details of the plan.

Again, the Govt would have to make a mighty sweet deal, guarantees or upfront payments for the NRL to go for it or it just won't happen in the forst place. Albo would know this and those discussions would be ongoing and may have already been negotiated. I guess we need to wait and see what the final deal is.

I can't see either the NRL or Albo wanting this to fall over after the next election so there'd have to be more to it.

I’m not assuming it is going to fail or succeed because nothing in this life is guaranteed; nevertheless I’d want more security then just the government saying we’ll back it. That makes it very hard for it to succeed due to the inherent instability of politics.

I’m also a big more cautious about RL leadership than you seemingly are. As a sport we have a history littered with very poor decisions, PVL included in that.
 

Wb1234

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I think it is incredibly dumb to trust politicians or politics, that’s all. It’s just way too unstable. If they can’t give a massive one off payment then they shouldn’t do it.

Also, there are some people on here who obviously have never been to a third world country otherwise they would not be peddling this idea that it is a simple thing to achieve. What we’re suggesting here hasn’t been tried by any sport in any competition.

There is no multinational competition anywhere in the world where you have cities/areas with such different economic and social conditions competing in the same competition. There is a reason why that is.
Yes there is that’s a load of bs

when new clubs were added to the nswrl they were basket cases and broke for decades and they’ve come good now

eg Penrith Cronulla or cowboys. The storm didn’t because they had 100 million and news lrd behind them. Png have 2.5 times that amount and a nation that loves rugby league (unlike melb where we are an afterthought)

why don’t you answer my very simple question

there’s 250 million on the table from the govt

to we take it or not

why are you so afraid

don’t you have any faith in this great sport
 

Wb1234

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I’m not assuming it is going to fail or succeed because nothing in this life is guaranteed; nevertheless I’d want more security then just the government saying we’ll back it. That makes it very hard for it to succeed due to the inherent instability of politics.

I’m also a big more cautious about RL leadership than you seemingly are. As a sport we have a history littered with very poor decisions, PVL included in that.
But not so cautious about afl leadership huh

our current leadership puts theirs to shame

they are copying us now and lieing about taking over in qld
 

Perth Red

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A meteor could hit the earth tomorrow if you wanna make stuff up

25 million minus 15 million equals 10 millon profit

the govt is paying us to expand our pathways in png to elite level

we will benefit from future player production. Without spending a cent
You’ve changed your tune lol
last week they wer getting$25mill from govt plus another $17mill from nrl And we’re going to be the second richest club!
 

Perth Red

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PVL might be a wanker but getting to and surviving at the top of NSW Racing tells me that he isn’t naive …

I would be extremely surprised if he agrees to the PNG NRL team without Govt contractual obligations to pay the $20-25m per year for minimum 10 years, which would be subject to penalty provisions if they try to turn off the tap early…

I mean .., it’s the Governments idea right …so the NRL has some leverage here ..

He isn’t going to be caught out by something like Bill Shorten knifing Albo prior to the next election and having that Victorian asking questions about why the Aust Govt funding that “meathead sport”….?

What happens after 10 years though …. Im not so sure … could fall over quick when the money stops…

Look … personally I’d rather them expand to about 4 other places … but I suspect that the recent news about PNG and PVL’s invitation to the White House was the quid pro quo for agreeing to Albo’s request for the team in PNG…
You’d think so, then you look at how he got played with the tv deal and nsw govt stadiums deal, or no deal.
 

titoelcolombiano

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I’m not assuming it is going to fail or succeed because nothing in this life is guaranteed; nevertheless I’d want more security then just the government saying we’ll back it. That makes it very hard for it to succeed due to the inherent instability of politics.

I’m also a big more cautious about RL leadership than you seemingly are. As a sport we have a history littered with very poor decisions, PVL included in that.
Fair call. I'm not 100% convinced about PNG. However if we do go for it, I want to see a good deal for the game out of it. Both here and in PNG. I agree that a politician's word of funding into the future alone is not enough
 

Wb1234

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You’ve changed your tune lol
last week they wer getting$25mill from govt plus another $17mill from nrl And we’re going to be the second richest club!
Someone’s getting that 25 millon

either the arlc or png

only one we know who isn’t getting it is Perth


but they might get one new grandstand on their tired suburban ground and we call that a win
 

Perth Red

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Someone’s getting that 25 millon

either the arlc or png

only one we know who isn’t getting it is Perth


but they might get one new grandstand on their tired suburban ground and we call that a win
like I said, you’ve changed your tune lol
 

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