PNG's back.

[BuffaloRules]

But it would be so Vlandys lol

Lol … Golden eagle this week

 

[BuffaloRules]

But it would be so Vlandys lol

By the way .. you never came back to me about the Broncos 1995 crowds reducing ?

 

[The Great Dane]

if the NRL want the name they will have it ..

That's simply not how the world works I'm afraid.

 

[BuffaloRules]

That's simply not how the world works I'm afraid.

You missed my edit …

Defunct NBL teams nicknames include the Devils ( TAS AFL team ) and Pirates ( Perth NRL )

 

[Perth Red]

By the way .. you never came back to me about the Broncos 1995 crowds reducing ?

Becasue this is a PNg thread. But ive doubts over that period of crowd figures. It was a massive jump that was never close to being replicated again. I think they used Union calculators for those three seasons lol

 

[BuffaloRules]

Becasue this is a PNg thread. But ive doubts over that period of crowd figures. It was a massive jump that was never close to being replicated again. I think they used Union calculators for those three seasons lol

lol .. it suits your argument for the Crushers … but not the Broncos

lol
lol

 

[Perth Red]

lol .. it suits your argument for the Crushers … but not the Broncos

lol
lol

Broncos crowds when they entered the comp were 16-21k, so yes their crowds have grown since inception. Im really not sure of your point and its relationship to PNG?

 

[Canard]

Becasue this is a PNg thread. But ive doubts over that period of crowd figures. It was a massive jump that was never close to being replicated again. I think they used Union calculators for those three seasons lol

It was there early years at QE2, where they were they bundled tickets with public transport and the ground was a novelty.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Broncos crowds when they entered the comp were 16-21k, so yes their crowds have grown since inception. Im really not sure of your point and its relationship to PNG?

Well .. let’s begin … stay with me now…

I said that the Dolphins crowd average last year was fine and you complained referencing that it was marginally above the Titans inaugural season

I couldn’t understand why you would compare them to the Titans .. i compared them with the Crushers inaugural season being a like for like Second Brisbane team

You then said …this was only up 15 percent … and a poor result given increase in population… and i said this is a better comparison than the Broncos where the numbers have actually gone backwards …

Then you implied that the Broncos numbers from 1995 were inflated but not the Crushers…

Talk about trying to nail jelly to the wall!

 

[Perth Red]

Well .. let’s begin … stay with me now…

I said that the Dolphins crowd average last year was fine and you complained referencing that it was marginally above the Titans inaugural season

I couldn’t understand why you would compare them to the Titans .. i compared them with the Crushers inaugural season being a like for like Second Brisbane team

You then said …this was only up 15 percent … and a poor result given increase in population… and i said this is a better comparison than the Broncos where the numbers have actually gone backwards …

Then you implied that the Broncos numbers from 1995 were inflated but not the Crushers…

Talk about trying to nail jelly to the wall!

ah so as usual you started off by derailing a thread with a topic totally irrelevant to the thread. Thanks for clearing that up. Anyway back to PNG.

 

[BuffaloRules]

ah so as usual you started off by derailing a thread with a topic totally irrelevant to the thread. Thanks for clearing that up. Anyway back to PNG.

so you don’t want to dispute anything?

lol

 

[docbrown]

Bit of an awkward name though…

What about the Crocodiles … plenty of them there

That's my vote.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Mate they're garbage and so is Tonga at the moment.

Tonga and Samoa's success is totally reliant on all the heritage star players eligible to represent them being available and electing to represent them over AUS or NZ. Because they aren't producing any talent locally there's no depth beneath that surface level, which is about as deep as a puddle, and relying on those top heritage players isn't sustainable over the long term.

Both of them will be up and down, yo-yo if you will, teams until such a time as genuine, sustainable, development of the sport happens on the ground in the islands. But that development isn't happening because there's no necessity for it for so long as they believe they can rely on Australia and NZ to produce the lion's share of their talent for them. Is what it is.

On your first point I'd have to disagree. The current Tongan and PNG teams are not garbage and again, PNG came within two tries of the Aus PM XII which shows vast improvement. Are they inconsistent at times? Yes, they showed that against Fiji and against England in their WC QF.

The other issue you raise has nothing to do with the current PNG squad and whether they are any good or not. However, I think Tonga and Samoa will for at least another decade (maybe two) be able to field pretty decent sides. Fiji and PNG are the two nations that actually have the potential to produce players if we get it right and will eventually overtake Tonga and Samoa (again, if we get it right) and be the next heavy hitters.

On a completely different topic, the game as a whole needs to figure out how to take the raw ingredients that exist in France and make them competitive again. For a G8 country with a long, proud history in the game, a domestic league better than most in RL (low bar, I know) and a pro player pool big enough to fill the national squad, they should be way more competitive than they are.

 

[The Great Dane]

You missed my edit …

Defunct NBL teams nicknames include the Devils ( TAS AFL team ) and Pirates ( Perth NRL )

Neither of which the NBL owns the trademark of anymore, so it's irrelevant. They do however own the Crocodiles brand and it's still in active use.

Pretty sure AFLTAS, or some other subsidiary of the AFL, owns the Devils ip, which is why the NBL couldn't use it when they added the Jackjumpers BTW, and if somebody was going to challenge the NRLWA's use of the Pirates it would have happened long ago. It wouldn't surprise me if the NBL had reapplied for the Pirates trademark and been turned down because it was in breach of the WC Pirates IP.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Neither of which the NBL owns the trademark of anymore, so it's irrelevant. They do however own the Crocodiles brand and it's still in active use.

Pretty sure AFLTAS, or some other subsidiary of the AFL, owns the Devils ip, which is why the NBL couldn't use it when they added the Jackjumpers BTW, and if somebody was going to challenge the NRLWA's use of the Pirates it would have happened long ago. It wouldn't surprise me if the NBL had reapplied for the Pirates trademark and been turned down because it was in breach of the WC Pirates IP.

do they own the trademark for crocodiles? if so… until when?

 

[The Great Dane]

On your first point I'd have to disagree. The current Tongan and PNG teams are not garbage and again, PNG came within two tries of the Aus PM XII which shows vast improvement. Are they inconsistent at times? Yes, they showed that against Fiji and against England in their WC QF.

On average both Tonga and PNG's current teams would lose heavily to AUS, NZ, and ENG. In RL terms that makes them tantamount to irrelevant, i.e. garbage. They wouldn't even be participating in regular games against the bigger sides if the government wasn't subsidising it.

Add to that fact that Tonga's (and Samoa's for that matter) team is an absolute Mickey Mouse farce and it's pretty embarrassing frankly. It doesn't get much worse than literally having the rules rigged for you and still losing FFS.

The other issue you raise has nothing to do with the current PNG squad and whether they are any good or not. However, I think Tonga and Samoa will for at least another decade (maybe two) be able to field pretty decent sides. Fiji and PNG are the two nations that actually have the potential to produce players if we get it right and will eventually overtake Tonga and Samoa (again, if we get it right) and be the next heavy hitters.

On a completely different topic, the game as a whole needs to figure out how to take the raw ingredients that exist in France and make them competitive again. For a G8 country with a long, proud history in the game, a domestic league better than most in RL (low bar, I know) and a pro player pool big enough to fill the national squad, they should be way more competitive than they are.

None of them would be capable of being 'heavy hitters' if the international game was healthy, or had any genuine potential in the short to mid term. Not having a go at them for that either, just is what it is.

Outside of the RFL, whom are too busy trying, and failing, to help themselves, there's very little that anybody outside of France can do to help French RL either unfortunately. No more than there're things that French RU could do for the ARU at least.

 

[The Great Dane]

do they own the trademark for crocodiles? if so… until when?

https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/2130639?q=Townsville+Crocodiles

The renewal date is 2030, but the NBL won't let it lapse anyway so it's kind of irrelevant.

 

[BuffaloRules]

https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/2130639?q=Townsville+Crocodiles

The renewal date is 2030, but the NBL won't let it lapse anyway so it's kind of irrelevant.

Is this binding for PNG ?

 

[The Great Dane]

Is this binding for PNG ?

Yes.

If the NRL or any other sporting organisation tried to register a trademark for a team called the Crocodiles it'd be in breach of NBL's trademark. It might slip the net during the examination period, but the NBL would almost certainly oppose it on the grounds that it could create consumer confusion with their IP and they'd win.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Yes.

If the NRL or any other sporting organisation tried to register a trademark for a team called the Crocodiles it'd be in breach of NBL's trademark. It might slip the net during the examination period, but the NBL would almost certainly oppose it on the grounds that it could create consumer confusion with their IP and they'd win.

How is it in breach ? Different sporting teams can share the same nicknames … and this is a team from a foreign country …