PNG's back.

[mongoose]

Half the people on nrl reddit don’t know what super league is

someone couldn’t believe me when I told them there were two comps

imagine a forum full of Perth reds

when it comes to this bid there’s two types of people who are against it

1. people who know nothing about the bid and make their decision based on not reading any articles

2. People who read the articles and ignore what in them

anybody that thinks vlandys should say no to 600 million for the development of rugby league has rocks in their head

wasn't your link to Twitter? guess you will have to completely dismiss that platform too cause they dare question vlandys lol

 

[mongoose]

Common sense?

Three years ago you were talking about Perth as if it was a serious contender. At one stage you considered it to be ahead of a second Brisbane team.

How did get prediction turn out?

It looks like your opinions are not shared by the people who run the game.

Why is that?

Could it be that your opinions are bone headed dumb and not grounded in reality?

nah, I always knew 17th team would be Brisbane 2

 

[MugaB]

nah, I always knew 17th team would be Brisbane 2

Did you know the 18th wasn't perth? I did

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Because PNG looks set to be in, as dumb as it is. If there wasnt Govt money being thrown at the stupid idea then Id be all for Adelaide Bears instead. Anything other than another Qlnd club

You've not provided a valid reason to ignore a third Brisbane team. Nor have you provided a reason to "expand" into hostile markets like Adelaide and Perth.

On the NZ2 thread you said there's no bid or city outside of Auckland that's big enough to support a team. Now you're on the NZ2 bandwagon.

The ARLC have observed the problems caused by expanding into hostile markets. Suns and Giants are costing AwFuL a lot of money. We don't have that sort of money. You remind us of how much more money AwFuL has in the TV deal thread. Force and Rebels played a large role in killing RU. It would be stupid to follow their example by plonking unwanted teams in Adelaide and Perth.

A third Brisbane club will make the game richer and more powerful. The Dolphins' inclusion raised the NRL attendance average to a historical high of 19,640. If we want to hit the 20k mark then we'll need another Brisbane team. If we add teams in Adelaide and Perth we'll go back to averaging 15k.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

 

[MugaB]

You've not provided a valid reason to ignore a third Brisbane team. Nor have you provided a reason to "expand" into hostile markets like Adelaide and Perth.

On the NZ2 thread you said there's no bid or city outside of Auckland that's big enough to support a team. Now you're on the NZ2 bandwagon.

The ARLC have observed the problems caused by expanding into hostile markets. Suns and Giants are costing AwFuL a lot of money. We don't have that sort of money. You remind us of how much more money AwFuL has in the TV deal thread. Force and Rebels played a large role in killing RU. It would be stupid to follow their example by plonking unwanted teams in Adelaide and Perth.

A third Brisbane club will make the game richer and more powerful. The Dolphins' inclusion raised the NRL attendance average to a historical high of 19,640. If we want to hit the 20k mark then we'll need another Brisbane team. If we add teams in Adelaide and Perth we'll go back to averaging 15k.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

I don't think the game needs to be richer by those metrics, they just need the 1st grade pathways in SEQ open for more of those qcup players, the team could be based in Ipswich, SC or Toowoomba and it would still serve the same outcome, SEQ4 isnt necessarily needed, but it would serve the game better than another NSW team or any of the start ups in WA or SA... personally i think the next 2 should be in Nz2 and Perth or Vic2, but i would just as much enjoy the east tigers get in without the BS rhetoric of fighting AFL in QLD

 

[Wb1234]

wasn't your link to Twitter? guess you will have to completely dismiss that platform too cause they dare question vlandys lol

Nrl twitter is excellent

there’s an expansionist on there that wants an nrl of 30 teams

all the accounts I follow all support png

 

[Wb1234]

Let’s be honest easts tigers would be ten times the club Perth will ever be

and grow the game in a way Perth never will

 

[MugaB]

Nrl twitter is excellent

there’s an expansionist on there that wants an nrl of 30 teams

all the accounts I follow all support png

Who dat fool?
30 teams is madness

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Reality is without that top grade side and the pathways underneath it in place you wont get a stronger player pool just sitting around hoping one day to get an NRL contract.

Melbourne Storm have been around for 25 years. They have pathways with the QRL and NSWRL. It's made f**k all difference for their juniors. The problem is Victoria's best athletes aren't interested in playing RL.

The same thing will happen with a Perth-based NRL club. It will never convince Perth's best athletes to choose RL over fumbleball and cricket.

We've barely scratched the surface of player development in NZ, PI, UK, France, poaching Union around the world etc etc.
NRL is finally getting itself in a position where it can be the #1 choice financially and profile wise to attract players from Union and overseas to play here. Player talent isnt the problem, investment in pathways and development systems are.

How does adding a Perth-based team help the NRL achieve this ambition?

Look at Penrith. The'yve had the biggest jnr participation region since forever but only in last ten years have they actually got serious about investing in pathways and look what it has reaped.

It costs a lot of money to convert a large player pool into world class NRL players. Money that Perth and Melbourne don't have.

 

[MugaB]

Let’s be honest easts tigers would be ten times the club Perth will ever be

and grow the game in a way Perth never will

I don't rate their leadership tho

 

[Perth Red]

My reasons are clear. I believe there is more value to the NRL long term to build new markets than to keep adding clubs to a market that is already watching and playing the game.

I have no doubt the Tigers could be a successful NRl club, they should have been club 17 for me. But now we have two Brisbane clubs, and 3 in SEQ, there really isnt NEED for another one when we have empty markets to build new customer bases in.

I have doubts over the location viability of NZ2, but I still think if a strong business case stacks up it would be more beneficial to the NRL long term than a third Brisbane club.

Since expansion with new market teams the AFL have achieved record sponsorship deals, record media deal and record revenue. It would seem their 'dots on a map' strategy is paying dividends.

 

[Wb1234]

I don't rate their leadership tho

Richo is a bit of a snake oil salesman

and any bid thinking firehawks was a good name should be punted into the Sun

they are rich though and linking up with the beisbane jets tick a lot of boxes

 

[Perth Red]

Melbourne Storm have been around for 25 years. They have pathways with the QRL and NSWRL. It's made f**k all difference for their juniors. The problem is Victoria's best athletes aren't interested in playing RL.

The problem with Storm has been their reluctance to engage with NRLVic and invest locally. Its no surprise that since they have started to do this over the last couple of years Vic has recorded record participation rates, Storm are running local pathways teams and we are already seeing some young Victorian talent emerge. lessons to be learnt for Perth, dont wait 25 years to set up local pathways!

Yeh because your traditional build PI RL player is going to be so effective at AFL lol

 

[Maximus]

Half the people on nrl reddit don’t know what super league is

someone couldn’t believe me when I told them there were two comps

Just so you know, there's this thing called sarcasm. It's how people respond when you post that you're the smartest person on the planet and think you are educating them on widely known topics.

 

[MugaB]

My reasons are clear. I believe there is more value to the NRL long term to build new markets than to keep adding clubs to a market that is already watching and playing the game.

I have no doubt the Tigers could be a successful NRl club, they should have been club 17 for me. But now we have two Brisbane clubs, and 3 in SEQ, there really isnt NEED for another one when we have empty markets to build new customer bases in.

I have doubts over the location viability of NZ2, but I still think if a strong business case stacks up it would be more beneficial to the NRL long term than a third Brisbane club.

Since expansion with new market teams the AFL have achieved record sponsorship deals, record media deal and record revenue. It would seem their 'dots on a map' strategy is paying dividends.

Dots on the map only worked WA and SA,
Its not working in nsw and qld as they want it to be, not sure how you're being fooled by their bogus competition of pass the flag around, i get the business model is promoting the advertisement into those metros, but the game sux balls

 

[Wb1234]

My reasons are clear. I believe there is more value to the NRL long term to build new markets than to keep adding clubs to a market that is already watching and playing the game.

I have no doubt the Tigers could be a successful NRl club, they should have been club 17 for me. But now we have two Brisbane clubs, and 3 in SEQ, there really isnt NEED for another one when we have empty markets to build new customer bases in.

I have doubts over the location viability of NZ2, but I still think if a strong business case stacks up it would be more beneficial to the NRL long term than a third Brisbane club.

Since expansion with new market teams the AFL have achieved record sponsorship deals, record media deal and record revenue. It would seem their 'dots on a map' strategy is paying dividends.

Dolphins in one year added more to the nrl than the storm have in almost 30

 

[Perth Red]

Dots on the map only worked WA and SA,
Its not working in nsw and qld as they want it to be, not sure how you're being fooled by their bogus competition of pass the flag around, i get the business model is promoting the advertisement into those metros, but the game sux balls

record media deal, record sponsorship, record revenue. Seems to be working just fine for them, and like you said with a product that quite frankly is shthouse.

 

[Wb1234]

Dots on the map only worked WA and SA,
Its not working in nsw and qld as they want it to be, not sure how you're being fooled by their bogus competition of pass the flag around, i get the business model is promoting the advertisement into those metros, but the game sux balls

Afl is raping the west coast eagles to try and get the giants and suns successful

the eagles get 10 million in central grant whilst the lions suns and gws all get 28 million

and that’s on top of the eagles paying up to ten milllion pa to fund junior development in wa

afl is killing their actual clubs for zombie clubs

 

[Perth Red]

Afl is raping the west coast eagles to try and get the giants and suns successful

the eagles get 10 million in central grant whilst the lions suns and gws all get 28 million

and that’s on top of the eagles paying up to ten milllion pa to fund junior development in wa

afl is killing their actual clubs for zombie clubs

Yeh eagles are really doing it tough financially, how will they ever survive lol
I mean last year they 'only' brought in $83mill, gave WAFC $3.7mill for grassroots funding and made a $3.5mil profit. Tough times lol

 

[MugaB]

Afl is raping the west coast eagles to try and get the giants and suns successful

the eagles get 10 million in central grant whilst the lions suns and gws all get 28 million

and that’s on top of the eagles paying up to ten milllion pa to fund junior development in wa

afl is killing their actual clubs for zombie clubs

Who cares, let them kill themselves