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Wb1234

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I think their membership numbers are inflated by categories for pets and babies. We're slowly catching up to them on the membership front. They have had a membership culture for decades. It's relatively new to rugby league.

PNG will provide us with the most enthusiastic fans on Earth. It'll generally anger AwFuL fans to see our game getting all of this attention by the US and America. They'll probably demand a team on Nauru.
Afls best feature is the crowds some of the traditional Melbourne clubs get

the eagles as well but the afl is taxing the life out of them

but when it comes to any figures they produce about their popularity it’s all bs

they literally are copying or reacting to anything vlanyds does now

png and nz2 establish our footprint in away afl never can

and we can add clubs like the dolphins and easts when their last three clubs are suns giants and tasmania (even the lions are a basket
I am amazed by how little these "expansionists" care about the PNG proposal. The more I learn about the bid the more I hope it becomes true. If it takes Gov funding to make it work then that's okay. The joy it will bring to Papua New Guineans will be priceless. The buzz it will bring to the NRL every week will be priceless. The benefits it'll bring to the Kumals will be priceless. We're lucky to have a PM who likes out game.
They want the nrl to be an afl lite competition

when the evidence is there that the afl way has failed

they got blessed with a super league war that established the swans (not so much the lions)

now left to their own merits their expansion has fallen flat

your right about the joy a png nrl team would bring to their fans

I think it will also bounce back well on us

like the dolphins league fans love seeing big crowds and the game gets energised. The entry of the dolphins Saw a boom in every rugby league club in qld this year (yes broncos form also helped). It was a feel good story. Media and fans lapped it up

it’s funny how little faith these so called expansionists have in our great game

are they jaded from super league ? Closet fumblers ? Can’t really tell
 
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A fumble fan came on here and said it was because the tickets were cheap and so was the food and beer

it’s the opposite for nrl games

kids tickets are as cheap as four dollars

and the mcg, scg and optus stadium members would mean half the crowd get in for free
PNG thread
 

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Afls best feature is the crowds some of the traditional Melbourne clubs get

the eagles as well but the afl is taxing the life out of them

but when it comes to any figures they produce about their popularity it’s all bs

they literally are copying or reacting to anything vlanyds does now

png and nz2 establish our footprint in away afl never can

and we can add clubs like the dolphins and easts when their last three clubs are suns giants and tasmania (even the lions are a basket

They want the nrl to be an afl lite competition

when the evidence is there that the afl way has failed

they got blessed with a super league war that established the swans (not so much the lions)

now left to their own merits their expansion has fallen flat

your right about the joy a png nrl team would bring to their fans

I think it will also bounce back well on us

like the dolphins league fans love seeing big crowds and the game gets energised. The entry of the dolphins Saw a boom in every rugby league club in qld this year (yes broncos form also helped). It was a feel good story. Media and fans lapped it up

it’s funny how little faith these so called expansionists have in our great game

are they jaded from super league ? Closet fumblers ? Can’t really tell
Again png thread
 
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I didn't have any of those opinions though. You just get what people think will happen mixed up with what people think should happen, cause you're a moron who doesn't pick up on the nuances of debates.
You're not in any position to call anyone a moron. The views you hold on expansion are crazy and dumb. The most embarrassing part is you don't learn from history. You're still under the impression that your "dots on map" theory is held by the ARLC.
 
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Afls best feature is the crowds some of the traditional Melbourne clubs get

the eagles as well but the afl is taxing the life out of them

but when it comes to any figures they produce about their popularity it’s all bs

they literally are copying or reacting to anything vlanyds does now

png and nz2 establish our footprint in away afl never can

and we can add clubs like the dolphins and easts when their last three clubs are suns giants and tasmania (even the lions are a basket

They want the nrl to be an afl lite competition

when the evidence is there that the afl way has failed

they got blessed with a super league war that established the swans (not so much the lions)

now left to their own merits their expansion has fallen flat

your right about the joy a png nrl team would bring to their fans

I think it will also bounce back well on us

like the dolphins league fans love seeing big crowds and the game gets energised. The entry of the dolphins Saw a boom in every rugby league club in qld this year (yes broncos form also helped). It was a feel good story. Media and fans lapped it up

it’s funny how little faith these so called expansionists have in our great game

are they jaded from super league ? Closet fumblers ? Can’t really tell

Fumbleball games not involving Victorian teams draw well over 200k viewers in Melbourne. Compare that to Perth's 45k for games not involving the Eagles and Dockers. The ARLC and broadcasters would be aware of this trend. It definitely works against Perth getting an NRL team.
 

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Fumbleball games not involving Victorian teams draw well over 200k viewers in Melbourne. Compare that to Perth's 45k for games not involving the Eagles and Dockers. The ARLC and broadcasters would be aware of this trend. It definitely works against Perth getting an NRL team.
The people of Perth aren’t asking for a team

as you’ve pointed out it’s the wa govt trying to generate more tourism

there are places like west Brisbane and png where the people want a team

if an area is dumb enough to prefer afl why would we want to target such fans
 

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Fumbleball games not involving Victorian teams draw well over 200k viewers in Melbourne. Compare that to Perth's 45k for games not involving the Eagles and Dockers. The ARLC and broadcasters would be aware of this trend. It definitely works against Perth getting an NRL team.
PNG thread
 

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The growth of rugby league among Indigenous people is fast becoming a selling point for the next NRL side as a famous club in the game manoeuvres its way for a return.

But it is that firm alliance beyond just the nation's established Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander fanbase that could prevent one of the contending bids from also getting the final nod.

That conjecture comes after Australia's most northernmost club has expressed grave concerns of the impact on its own support and talent base from a bid out of Papua New Guinea.

The desire to establish an 18th NRL side in Port Moresby has a groundswell of support from both influential league powerbrokers and with fans alike on social media in recent times after a West Australian proposal was once leading the race as the soundest option.

NRL boss Andrew Abdo at the 2021 season launch, before the Dolphins played a single game, also hinted that New Zealand, possibly in Wellington, was his own preferred choice to start up a new rivalry and create a "tribalism" for the Auckland-based Warriors.

But reports of the financial backing from Prime Minister Anthony Albanese to Australia's closest neighbour to fork up to $600 million over the club's first 10 years has ensured that a PNG bid is the frontrunner now to join the world's best rugby league competition.

The grassroots popularity of the PNG Hunters is already the envy of rival Queensland Cup sides. But the inclusion of Cairns, as a training base and possibly to host games in a city has a strong Papuan diaspora and community, for PNG entry to the NRL has left North Queensland Cowboys crying foul.

After crowds have risen since the club opened North Queensland Stadium during the pandemic in 2020, Cowboys chief executive Jeff Reibel has feared moves to include a regional rival in its local market will set the 28-year entity back.

"It needs to be looked at holistically," Reibel told CODE Sports.

"The question is not can Cairns sustain it … it's more a case of whether the whole of North Queensland can sustain more than one NRL team.

"Being the North Queensland Cowboys, Cairns and Far North Queensland are such an important part of our region."

Reibel admitted to being anxious over losing its Indigenous' player development and recruitment north of Townsville that could threaten to split the greater region in half.

The Cowboys' stance is that the 18th club should be from a new, untouched market in which Reibel did not believe a Cairns-based PNG club would be.

"There are other bids in the wings, whether that be a Pasifika one, a Perth one, even the Bears or New Zealand, we need to get a full brief from the NRL on what they are thinking, so we can show them how expansion would affect our club," he said.

"Our footprint is a wide one: there's 600,000 people that live within North Queensland – and they are all important to us.

"If there's one thing that brings this region together, it's the Cowboys.

"When you talk about expanding your business, you are looking towards where you can consolidate a market or attract a new market."

PNG bid chief executive Andrew Hill has not denied a partnership with Cairns would only strengthen its chances of sustainability.

Cairns and its attractive lifestyle is seen as vital to lure Australian players ahead of travelling over to Port Moresby for the bulk of home fixtures.

"We've definitely spoken about Cairns to a lot of people," he told Wide World of Sports Radio.

"I think it's important to say that you know we need an identity and our identity will be very much PNG.

"So we will soon be playing our games at Santos Stadium in Port Moresby … but if we are based in Cairns – Souths have been playing there for 10 years successfully – a game or two there, those things are up for consideration."

A North Sydney bid has also read the room in recent months to switch the sails of the NSW Cup club on a path to the Pacific Islands.

The Bears, who played in the first 1999 NRL season before entering the failed merger with Manly, have dropped their long-time preference to relocate to the Central Coast in favour of representing fans in Fiji, Samoa and Tonga.

The move has been inspired after watching Samoa reach Rugby League's World Cup last year after Tonga's previous Test upsets over Australia and New Zealand.

"The rugby league success story for the 18th team is all about pathways, participation and a commercially-viable business," Bears chairman Daniel Dickson told Triple M in Sydney.

The club's bid was dealt a blow earlier in the year after losing $11 million in funding after the previous NSW government was ousted and the promised cash was scrapped.

Dickson is convinced the Bears can overcome the setback, but admitted: "The NRL don't want to put their hand in their pockets moving forward."

While taking control of the team's colours, logo and moniker would be paramount to backing a Pacific Bears lineup, while training out of North Sydney Oval where preferably there would be two games a year, Dickson said the focus will be about representing culture.

"I think the Pacific Islands, in general, is exciting because there is so many people in our game today with Pacific Islander heritage," he said.

"I know there is more talk about the absolute PNG's standalone (bid), but I think this a better option, involving other, more countries and giving them a pathway."

 
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The people of Perth aren’t asking for a team

as you’ve pointed out it’s the wa govt trying to generate more tourism

there are places like west Brisbane and png where the people want a team

if an area is dumb enough to prefer afl why would we want to target such fans

If Perth Red never moved to Perth then he wouldn't be advocating for a team.

He's creating false reasons to put a team in Perth because he likes living there.
 

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If Perth Red never moved to Perth then he wouldn't be advocating for a team.

He's creating false reasons to put a team in Perth because he likes living there.
The arlc should base the location of its teams based on his poor life choices

imagine being a pommie league fan where the game is marginalised

you move to a country where it’s one of the biggest sports

then you pick the bit that has no league team

When I’m in Melbourne and I see guy bouncing a sherrin around it’s just an alien environment

I could never live in a fumbler state after growing up in a city which is absorbed by rugby league

going to Melbourne is way different to going to Brisbane even if the demographic of melb is closer to Sydney than Brisbane
 

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The growth of rugby league among Indigenous people is fast becoming a selling point for the next NRL side as a famous club in the game manoeuvres its way for a return.

But it is that firm alliance beyond just the nation's established Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander fanbase that could prevent one of the contending bids from also getting the final nod.

That conjecture comes after Australia's most northernmost club has expressed grave concerns of the impact on its own support and talent base from a bid out of Papua New Guinea.

The desire to establish an 18th NRL side in Port Moresby has a groundswell of support from both influential league powerbrokers and with fans alike on social media in recent times after a West Australian proposal was once leading the race as the soundest option.

NRL boss Andrew Abdo at the 2021 season launch, before the Dolphins played a single game, also hinted that New Zealand, possibly in Wellington, was his own preferred choice to start up a new rivalry and create a "tribalism" for the Auckland-based Warriors.

But reports of the financial backing from Prime Minister Anthony Albanese to Australia's closest neighbour to fork up to $600 million over the club's first 10 years has ensured that a PNG bid is the frontrunner now to join the world's best rugby league competition.

The grassroots popularity of the PNG Hunters is already the envy of rival Queensland Cup sides. But the inclusion of Cairns, as a training base and possibly to host games in a city has a strong Papuan diaspora and community, for PNG entry to the NRL has left North Queensland Cowboys crying foul.

After crowds have risen since the club opened North Queensland Stadium during the pandemic in 2020, Cowboys chief executive Jeff Reibel has feared moves to include a regional rival in its local market will set the 28-year entity back.

"It needs to be looked at holistically," Reibel told CODE Sports.

"The question is not can Cairns sustain it … it's more a case of whether the whole of North Queensland can sustain more than one NRL team.

"Being the North Queensland Cowboys, Cairns and Far North Queensland are such an important part of our region."

Reibel admitted to being anxious over losing its Indigenous' player development and recruitment north of Townsville that could threaten to split the greater region in half.

The Cowboys' stance is that the 18th club should be from a new, untouched market in which Reibel did not believe a Cairns-based PNG club would be.

"There are other bids in the wings, whether that be a Pasifika one, a Perth one, even the Bears or New Zealand, we need to get a full brief from the NRL on what they are thinking, so we can show them how expansion would affect our club," he said.

"Our footprint is a wide one: there's 600,000 people that live within North Queensland – and they are all important to us.

"If there's one thing that brings this region together, it's the Cowboys.

"When you talk about expanding your business, you are looking towards where you can consolidate a market or attract a new market."

PNG bid chief executive Andrew Hill has not denied a partnership with Cairns would only strengthen its chances of sustainability.

Cairns and its attractive lifestyle is seen as vital to lure Australian players ahead of travelling over to Port Moresby for the bulk of home fixtures.

"We've definitely spoken about Cairns to a lot of people," he told Wide World of Sports Radio.

"I think it's important to say that you know we need an identity and our identity will be very much PNG.

"So we will soon be playing our games at Santos Stadium in Port Moresby … but if we are based in Cairns – Souths have been playing there for 10 years successfully – a game or two there, those things are up for consideration."

A North Sydney bid has also read the room in recent months to switch the sails of the NSW Cup club on a path to the Pacific Islands.

The Bears, who played in the first 1999 NRL season before entering the failed merger with Manly, have dropped their long-time preference to relocate to the Central Coast in favour of representing fans in Fiji, Samoa and Tonga.

The move has been inspired after watching Samoa reach Rugby League's World Cup last year after Tonga's previous Test upsets over Australia and New Zealand.

"The rugby league success story for the 18th team is all about pathways, participation and a commercially-viable business," Bears chairman Daniel Dickson told Triple M in Sydney.

The club's bid was dealt a blow earlier in the year after losing $11 million in funding after the previous NSW government was ousted and the promised cash was scrapped.

Dickson is convinced the Bears can overcome the setback, but admitted: "The NRL don't want to put their hand in their pockets moving forward."

While taking control of the team's colours, logo and moniker would be paramount to backing a Pacific Bears lineup, while training out of North Sydney Oval where preferably there would be two games a year, Dickson said the focus will be about representing culture.

"I think the Pacific Islands, in general, is exciting because there is so many people in our game today with Pacific Islander heritage," he said.

"I know there is more talk about the absolute PNG's standalone (bid), but I think this a better option, involving other, more countries and giving them a pathway."

Any bid that involves more than one region means than neither region could support a team alone. More Wests tigers anyone?
PNG need to be in PNG! It's just a matter of whether they can get everything in order to be team 18. $60mill a year will help.
 
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Brisbane Tigers look to combine with PNG for NRL Bid

The Brisbane Tigers have high hopes of combining with PNG in a bid to become the 18th NRL team.

Shane Edwards, Chairman of the Brisbane Tigers NRL Bid told Peter Psaltis on Wide World of Sports, “…We’re very confident in our proposal in a stand alone basis to be the 18th team…but recently we’ve been in discussions with PNG about a merged entity which could be a very formidable team from day one…”

“We see the creation of a merged team as a way to allow them time to develop their pathways but in time…when new teams come into the competition we’d both be a team in our own right…” Mr. Edwards continued.


Sounds like a great plan.
 

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"We want a merger so we can cut and run at the first opportunity"

Sounds like they lack confidence in their own bid when they need to rely on another one to force their way in.
 

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"We want a merger so we can cut and run at the first opportunity"

Sounds like they lack confidence in their own bid when they need to rely on another one to force their way in.
Easts know they are way down the list so soon after the dolphins admission. Partnering with PNG confirms this. They'd be smarter to be Perths feeder club and keep relevance for about a decade.
 
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"We want a merger so we can cut and run at the first opportunity"

Sounds like they lack confidence in their own bid when they need to rely on another one to force their way in.

It actually makes sense. For the first 10 years they'll be a merged entity. Pathways will be built in PNG during this time frame to make them sustainable when Tigers go their own way. Richardson spoke about buying a couple of games so they can hold 7 at Lang Park and 7 in Port Moresby.
 

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It actually makes sense. For the first 10 years they'll be a merged entity. Pathways will be built in PNG during this time frame to make them sustainable when Tigers go their own way. Richardson spoke about buying a couple of games so they can hold 7 at Lang Park and 7 in Port Moresby.

So 2 bids that can't stand on their own and need to team up with another bid. Sounds like a terrible idea.
 

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Brisbane Tigers look to combine with PNG for NRL Bid
The Brisbane Tigers have high hopes of combining with PNG in a bid to become the 18th NRL team.
Shane Edwards, Chairman of the Brisbane Tigers NRL Bid told Peter Psaltis on Wide World of Sports, “…We’re very confident in our proposal in a stand alone basis to be the 18th team…but recently we’ve been in discussions with PNG about a merged entity which could be a very formidable team from day one…”​
“We see the creation of a merged team as a way to allow them time to develop their pathways but in time…when new teams come into the competition we’d both be a team in our own right…” Mr. Edwards continued.​

Sounds like a great plan.
I don’t think this does easts justice

brisbane will get another license for sure

why go with png and get maybe four games in Brisbane when it could be 12

But being in Brisbane and having their assets.
And govt backing png would be the biggest club financially in the league
 

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