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[Gobsmacked]

‘A timeline that makes sense’: PNG’s bid to become 18th NRL team firms with big ‘promise’

‘A timeline that makes sense’: PNG’s bid to become 18th NRL team firms with big ‘promise’

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Canard]

Correlation doesn't imply causation.

The short answer to your question is "fumbleball has more active fans around the country". If metro reach was so important then Super Rugby and A-League would be bigger than the NRL.

Wouldn't those sports have to be popular though?

f**k you must hate RL, "if Union isn't popular, then we are no chance" is your view.

 

[Perth Red]

Correlation doesn't imply causation.

The short answer to your question is "fumbleball has more active fans around the country". If metro reach was so important then Super Rugby and A-League would be bigger than the NRL.

Has lower tv audience than nrl and massively more media and sponsorship revenue, hmmm maybe tv And advertisers prefer national metro reach?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Has lower tv audience than nrl and massively more media and sponsorship revenue, hmmm maybe tv And advertisers prefer national metro reach?

AwFuL games run longer and squeeze in more breaks for commercials.

Sponsors are willing to pay more for an advertisement during an AwFuL game.

In 2012, the ABC reported that the cost of advertising in the 2012 Grand finals was

AFL: $100,000 nationally or $50,000 in Melbourne
NRL: $70,000 to $80,000 nationally

AFL/NRL Grand Final Advertising costs - Sports Industry AU

The Australian reports that Nine Network is selling 30-second advertising slots in Sunday’s 2016 NRL grand final for about $75,000

www.footyindustry.com

 

[Bukowski]

AwFuL games run longer and squeeze in more breaks for commercials.

Sponsors are willing to pay more for an advertisement during an AwFuL game.

In 2012, the ABC reported that the cost of advertising in the 2012 Grand finals was​

​

AFL: $100,000 nationally or $50,000 in Melbourne​

NRL: $70,000 to $80,000 nationally​

​

AFL/NRL Grand Final Advertising costs - Sports Industry AU

The Australian reports that Nine Network is selling 30-second advertising slots in Sunday’s 2016 NRL grand final for about $75,000

www.footyindustry.com

What a surprise. A national game gets more money than a game played in 3 states. How to we change that?
Bring in a team from PNG. Brilliance.

 

[Maximus]

What a surprise. A national game gets more money than a game played in 3 states. How to we change that?
Bring in a team from PNG. Brilliance.

The logic makes total sense when you also consider their argument that Vic, SA and WA have no impact on tv deals, but also nobody cares about AFL in Sydney and Brisbane. The AFL really should have to pay to be on tv based on their logic.

 

[Wb1234]

 

[Perth Red]

From facebook

Hunters players left homeless in the recent recruitment camp.

As part of the contract agreement with selected players recently to attend months long preseason training , the selected players were asked to provide for their own accommodation,transportation and food.

During the first block of training players will have to sustain themselves. The second block of preseason, food accomodation and transport will be at board and managements discretion.Some of these players have no relatives in Port Moresby and it’s been very difficult .

Hunters years back had been well organised and well thought out program. If it’s 60 players everybody is expected to be at the camp with food, accommodation, transport and training gears provided until the squad is finalised. Planty nogat kaikai na raun Lo Moresby stap.

What’s the strategy here?You don’t have to put them in hotels, at least they have somewhere to stay and eat, that comes from your expenses.

This is insane, Hunters management had to do somthing about it.

 

[Perth Red]

AwFuL games run longer and squeeze in more breaks for commercials.

Sponsors are willing to pay more for an advertisement during an AwFuL game.

In 2012, the ABC reported that the cost of advertising in the 2012 Grand finals was​

​

AFL: $100,000 nationally or $50,000 in Melbourne​

NRL: $70,000 to $80,000 nationally​

​

AFL/NRL Grand Final Advertising costs - Sports Industry AU

The Australian reports that Nine Network is selling 30-second advertising slots in Sunday’s 2016 NRL grand final for about $75,000

www.footyindustry.com

That doesn’t explain why sponsors pay afl more or why ptv pays them a hell of alot more, or why fta pays them double

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That doesn’t explain why sponsors pay afl more or why ptv pays them a hell of alot more, or why fta pays them double

AwFuL to NRL membership ratio is 4:1. Members buy merchandise that has the sponsors' logos on display. It's a great way to market their product. It's also viewed as a game that's supported by all classes.

FTA pays more because it gets to screen the non-Victorian teams into their home market. Ch9 would pay more if they got to screen every Broncos game into Brisbane.

Foxtel have been screwing with RL since 1998. Murdoch is a Victorian and admitted he "prefers" fumbleball and views it as Australia's premier game.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

What a surprise. A national game gets more money than a game played in 3 states. How to we change that?
Bring in a team from PNG. Brilliance.

In 1987, Ch7 paid just $30m over 5 years for the VFL rights.

1987 – Ch7 pays $6 million a year ($30 million) for 5 years from 1988 – 1992

Timeline of VFL/AFL Broadcast Rights - Sports Industry AU

Timeline of AFL Broadcast Rights 1960 – the VFL rejects an offer of 14,000 pounds to broadcast the last quarter and replays 1971 – Ch2 and Ch7 pay $200,000 a year for 5 years ($1 million) to 1975 (replays) 1976 – Ch2 and Ch7 pay $600,000 a year for 5 years (3 million) to 1980...

www.footyindustry.com

The VFL had teams in every metro area except Adelaide.

In 1989, Ch10 paid $48m over 3 years for the NSWRL rights.

1989. Ten pays 48 million for a 3 year deal to broadcast the NSWRL competition.

Some History of NSWRL/ARL/Superleague/NRL TV Rights - Sports Industry AU

Work in progress, Ill add to this as I get time. 1952. The Australian RugbyLeague team refuses to allow the BBC to broadcasts its tour matches against England for fear of hurting gate attendances. 1969 -1970. Channel 9 has exclusive NRL rights. 1971. Seven offers $160,000 and Nine $150,000 for...

www.footyindustry.com

The only metro areas that had an NSWRL team between 1988-92 were Brisbane and Sydney.

 

[Canard]

Murdoch is not a Victorian.

Facts not "feelings"

 

[MugaB]

Murdoch is not a Victorian.

Facts not "feelings"

Isn't he? ...Rupert Murdoch
Just read up on him, he is Victorian, went to school in Geelong, ran papers in Adelaide and Melbourne

 

[Canard]

Isn't he? ...Rupert Murdoch
Just read up on him, he is Victorian, went to school in Geelong, ran papers in Adelaide and Melbourne

 

[Perth Red]

AwFuL to NRL membership ratio is 4:1. Members buy merchandise that has the sponsors' logos on display. It's a great way to market their product. It's also viewed as a game that's supported by all classes.

FTA pays more because it gets to screen the non-Victorian teams into their home market. Ch9 would pay more if they got to screen every Broncos game into Brisbane.

Foxtel have been screwing with RL since 1998. Murdoch is a Victorian and admitted he "prefers" fumbleball and views it as Australia's premier game.

But I’m not talking about club revenue, I’m talking about central revenue. for example Toyota pay over 50% more for naming rights to the afl than telstra pay nrl for same thing.

would they? Would they pay double what they pay now? And basically you’re agreeing with me lol ch7 pay more as afl has a 5 metro reach. as does ptv as does telstra for its connections.

murdoch is a hard core businessman first and foremost, news ltd aren’t paying any more than they value it at, and that’s more than they value nrl despite nrl having bigger audiences, so what’s different? Well afl has 16 of 18 clubs in 5 Australian metro markets, nrl has 12.5 of 17 Australian clubs in 3 metro markets, hmmmmm.

 

[Colk]

But I’m not talking about club revenue, I’m talking about central revenue. for example Toyota pay 50% more for naming rights to the afl than telstra pay nrl for same thing.

would they? Would they pay double what they pay now? And basically you’re agreeing with me lol ch7 pay more as afl has a 5 metro reach. as does ptv as does telstra for its connections.

murdoch is a hard core businessman first and foremost, news ltd aren’t paying any more than they value it at, and that’s more than they value nrl despite nrl having bigger audiences, so what’s different? Well afl has 16 of 18 clubs in 5 Australian metro markets, nrl has 13.5 Australian clubs in 3 metro markets, hmmmmm.

Whilst I agree that metro reach is somewhat important, I don’t think it is anywhere near the only factor.

They have better negotiators for one and they also don’t have their head so far up News Ltd’s a*** as well. Longer games and more ad breaks would also be another.

 

[Perth Red]

Whilst I agree that metro reach is somewhat important, I don’t think it is anywhere near the only factor.

They have better negotiators for one and they also don’t have their head so far up News Ltd’s a*** as well. Longer games and more ad breaks would also be another.

No it’s not, there’s multiple factors why we generate less revenue. But lack of national metro reach is certainly one of them. It creates a perception for sponsors, and tv, of a lessor market penetration limited to fewer metro markets. But yeh having Vlandys negotiating tv deals doesn’t help. The game doesn’t have the penetration in melbourne that afl has in Sydney And has virtually zero in perth and adleiade. Address that and we will start to see us catch up. Or we could go to Vegas lol

 

[BuffaloRules]

No it’s not, there’s multiple factors why we generate less revenue. But lack of national metro reach is certainly one of them. It creates a perception for sponsors, and tv, of a lessor market penetration limited to fewer metro markets. But yeh having Vlandys negotiating tv deals doesn’t help.

Who has negotiated a good NRL TV deal?

 

[Perth Red]

Who has negotiated a good NRL TV deal?

Smith negotiated an outstanding fta deal, $70mill a year more than current deal and more than afls ch7 deals, sadly he wasnt given the opportunity to do fox over.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Smith negotiated an outstanding fta deal, $70mill a year more than current deal and more than afls ch7 deals, sadly he wasnt given the opportunity to do fox over.

And what happened to him ? was sacked shortly after wasnt he?

He lost control of his own product with Nine then offloading/selling the games back to Foxtel … he managed to upset the only Pay Tv operator Rupert Murdoch to cause him to throw more money at the AFL out of spite…

If thats what you call a success…