PNG's back.

[MugaB]

The logistics of flying teams in and out of Port Moresby on game day won't sit well with the RLPA and 17 NRL clubs.

When was that an issue previously, they seem to manage it during covid just fine, and with 60 mil per year thats been floated, the nrl wont care about chartering a private jet ride

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

When was that an issue previously, they seem to manage it during covid just fine, and with 60 mil per year thats been floated, the nrl wont care about chartering a private jet ride

The clubs and RLPA always bicker over something when their licencing agreement with the ARLC is up for renewal. RLPA want more money and a lighter schedule. Clubs want more funding. Their position on expansion will hinge on what suits them.

 

[MugaB]

The clubs and RLPA always bicker over something when their licencing agreement with the ARLC is up for renewal. RLPA want more money and a lighter schedule. Clubs want more funding. Their position on expansion will hinge on what suits them.

Money, especially govt money, will overrule any issues, whatever the govt tip in, means the same amount of coming of the broadcaster grant won't get used, which wll divi back to the clubs, or get used to buy more assets, you wont see that with any other bid, the clubs are extremely selfish, money rules.. its the only reason PNG are the favourites, no govt money, and png will be relegated to the back of the line behind the easts and norths for sure

 

[Wb1234]

The logistics of flying teams in and out of Port Moresby on game day won't sit well with the RLPA and 17 NRL clubs.

Doubt it would be game day

and they are to be flown on private jet

 

[Wb1234]

Money, especially govt money, will overrule any issues, whatever the govt tip in, means the same amount of coming of the broadcaster grant won't get used, which wll divi back to the clubs, or get used to buy more assets, you wont see that with any other bid, the clubs are extremely selfish, money rules.. its the only reason PNG are the favourites, no govt money, and png will be relegated to the back of the line behind the easts and norths for sure

Not sure about this

png will get the same grant every other club gets we aren’t the English super league

the 70 million pa won’t be going direct to the arlc
To spend as it wants

 

[Perth Red]

Realistically a PNG team is going to need central funding of at least $10mill a year above NRL grant, potentially more when you look at the costs involved for them and lack of revenue generation. So theres around $30mill grant a year NRL needs to fund the club come 2027. Then there is the extra costs on the NRL itself for travel and accommodation. If the Govt isnt offering at least $40mill a year direct to the NRL it should walk away. (Given Australian tv is hardly going to be falling over itself to offer more for a PNG club)
How money for Rl programs and RL in schools etc gets dished out who knows. Will PNGRL get it? will PNG govt get it? Will NRL get it and be expected to be in control of RL in PNG moving forward? who knows.

 

[Canard]

Foreign Aid has to go to the country its benefitting right?

Otherwise its not foreign aid? Right?

Of course we can completely trust that it will go to where its intended.

PNG leader Marape confirms son arrested over money in suitcase

Papua New Guinea's Prime Minister James Marape has confirmed reports his eldest son is one of five men arrested in relation to a suitcase found with $US440,000 at a domestic airport in the Hela province.

www.rnz.co.nz

 

[Perth Red]

Foreign Aid has to go to the country its benefitting right?

Otherwise its not foreign aid? Right?

Of course we can completely trust that it will go to where its intended.

PNG leader Marape confirms son arrested over money in suitcase

Papua New Guinea's Prime Minister James Marape has confirmed reports his eldest son is one of five men arrested in relation to a suitcase found with $US440,000 at a domestic airport in the Hela province.

www.rnz.co.nz

This will likely be funded out of the PacificAus Sports area. But no foreign aid ( now called ODA) doesnt always go to the countries Govt. It funds lots of different things in lots of different ways.

 

[Wb1234]

Posted an article before which said any money would be strictly monitored

the nrl should have a say in how it’s spent

 

[Perth Red]

The chief of Papua New Guinea’s NRL bid and the Australian government have assured critics there will be wider social benefits of a professional rugby league side from PNG, after the former captain of the national team called for services and infrastructure to be prioritised.

The former Kumuls skipper David Mead – a longtime advocate of the bid – posted on LinkedIn last month that the NRL team should not be the highest priority for the PNG and Australian governments in the wake of last month’s riots in Port Moresby.
“[There is] so much talk about creating a National Rugby League team when it’s quite obvious that the need for basic services, schools, hospitals, infrastructure, job opportunities, and police force should be top of the priority list,” Mead said.

People were killed and shops and businesses set on fire in the capital after police went on strike over pay in mid-January.

PNG’s prime minister, James Marape, will address the Australian parliament in Canberra on Thursday, and during his visit is also expected to progress negotiations for the side and its application to become the 18th NRL franchise.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said the bid for PNG teams in both the NRL and NRLW competitions has the potential to have broad and long-lasting impacts on the country.

“Partnering on rugby league is a powerful way to build lasting ties between Australia and PNG, contribute to gender equality and promote positive long-term social and economic outcomes for PNG,” a Dfat spokesman said.

The Australian government invested $5.5m in PNG’s junior rugby league pathways last year.

That program, which will launch at the end of February, will fund teenage boys and girls across the country to train under professional coaches this year, culminating in a national championship.


The head of the PNG bid team, Andrew Hill, said this was an example of where Australian investment brought benefits beyond the football field.

“By establishing the player pathways in under-15s, 17s and 19s, a condition of that is the players must be attending school to be part of the NRL bid’s academy programs,” Hill said. “This underpins a wider program to get more kids going to and staying in school across PNG.”

The Australian government is reportedly considering tens of millions of dollars in annual funding for the NRL team as a diplomatic counter to the growing influence of China in the region.

In addition to the $5.5m in junior pathways investment, the Australian government supports PNG rugby league through its PacificAus program.

The money supports men’s and women’s international rugby league fixtures involving PNG, and the inclusion of the PNG Hunters in the Queensland Rugby League.

The pathways program is being run by the former Parramatta Eels coach Joe Grima, and involves more than 20 staff running programs for the next six months in the country’s three largest cities of Port Moresby, Lae and Mount Hargen, as well as Goroka in the highlands, and Kokopo, close to the Solomon Islands.

The former NRL referee Tony Archer has been employed to run competition governance and refereeing.

“Our focus has been on establishing junior player pathway programs not just in Port Moresby but rolling out all over PNG,” Hill said.

“To be in a position to attract highly regarded people such as Joe Grima and Tony Archer, to help develop these programs has been extremely encouraging for the progress we’re making.”

The young PNG players will come together for a national championship at the end of the year where the national junior teams will be chosen.

The Junior Kumuls only narrowly lost to the Australian schoolboys 20-16 in a match last year.

The PNG bid is expected to face strong competition from outfits from Perth, Brisbane and New Zealand for the 18th franchise.

An extra game each weekend is likely to increase the value of the NRL’s broadcast arrangements by tens of millions of dollars each year.

Deals with Nine, Fox Sports and Sky Sports in New Zealand expire at the end of the 2027 season.

Papua New Guinea’s NRL bid out to bring benefits beyond the rugby league field

The Australian government is reportedly considering helping to fund a PNG expansion team with a partnership that is seen as a ‘powerful way to build lasting ties’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Brian potter]

PNG looking towards Beijing for security deal.

Beware China’s ‘false promise’ with PNG security deal, US official warns

China’s commitment to defence or investment ‘comes with a high cost’, US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Verma said in Australia, calling on Papua New Guinea to choose arrangements with ‘countries that play by the rules’.

www.scmp.com

 

[Bukowski]

PNG looking towards Beijing for security deal.

Beware China’s ‘false promise’ with PNG security deal, US official warns

China’s commitment to defence or investment ‘comes with a high cost’, US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Verma said in Australia, calling on Papua New Guinea to choose arrangements with ‘countries that play by the rules’.

www.scmp.com

I feel Albo is being played by both the PNG PM and VLandys.

 

[Titanic]

I am very sceptical about the mooted PNG franchise having the same funding model as the other NRL clubs (however many) for several reasons not the least of which are:

(a) If they are to receive direct funding from two governments (however much) would it be unreasonable for them to expect the same slice of the pie from the Broadcasting agreement? I know this might not be the popular opinion but the NRL clubs will argue this for sure in the context of "salary cap", and

(b) My understanding of the Hunters/QRL financial model is the Hunters pay all their own expenses and the visiting QCup clubs are propped-up financially by the QRL. I have no idea about the FijiTails but the ARLC aren't known for their philanthropy (unless it's self-serving).

Also instead of playing in Cairns or Port Moresby, why not play in a tropical paradise like Rabaul (volcanos aside), live on a plantation or in a grass hut and chew buai (betel nut for you uninitiated) ... just saying, lol.

 

[Canard]

Posted an article before which said any money would be strictly monitored

the nrl should have a say in how it’s spent

Good to know that the NRL will magically be able to defeat corruption and cronyism in PNG.

 

[Perth Red]

Good to know that the NRL will magically be able to defeat corruption and cronyism in PNG.

and communism! Who ever knew RL was so powerful in the fight against evil?

 

[Wb1234]

I am very sceptical about the mooted PNG franchise having the same funding model as the other NRL clubs (however many) for several reasons not the least of which are:

(a) If they are to receive direct funding from two governments (however much) would it be unreasonable for them to expect the same slice of the pie from the Broadcasting agreement? I know this might not be the popular opinion but the NRL clubs will argue this for sure in the context of "salary cap", and

(b) My understanding of the Hunters/QRL financial model is the Hunters pay all their own expenses and the visiting QCup clubs are propped-up financially by the QRL. I have no idea about the FijiTails but the ARLC aren't known for their philanthropy (unless it's self-serving).

Also instead of playing in Cairns or Port Moresby, why not play in a tropical paradise like Rabaul (volcanos aside), live on a plantation or in a grass hut and chew buai (betel nut for you uninitiated) ... just saying, lol.

Arlc covers all travel and accomodation costs for visiting teams

 

[MugaB]

Not sure about this

png will get the same grant every other club gets we aren’t the English super league

the 70 million pa won’t be going direct to the arlc
To spend as it wants

Yes theyll get the same grant but other funding would also be used to set up a new franchise, money that the government would fund that the NRL wont have, that they would otherwise need to if it were another bid

 

[Maximus]

Arlc covers all travel and accomodation costs for visiting teams

Don't forget the extra security costs to keep them from being murdered in a riot.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Money, especially govt money, will overrule any issues, whatever the govt tip in, means the same amount of coming of the broadcaster grant won't get used, which wll divi back to the clubs, or get used to buy more assets, you wont see that with any other bid, the clubs are extremely selfish, money rules.. its the only reason PNG are the favourites, no govt money, and png will be relegated to the back of the line behind the easts and norths for sure

I just hope V'landys gets a written contract from Albo guaranteeing funding for 20+ years. Of all the expansion bids, PNG opens up the best opportunity to grow the game at international level.

 

[Perth Red]

I just hope V'landys gets a written contract from Albo guaranteeing funding for 20+ years. Of all the expansion bids, PNG opens up the best opportunity to grow the game at international level.

Id say a NZ2 focused on developing the game in Fiji, Tonga and Samoa would more than PNG. IF we could get those three nations up to speed with NZ and Aus, and England from time to time, it would be massive to have 6 nations who could actually regularly compete with each other. PNG would be nice as well but that would take decades and may never get there as its likely there still wouldn't be enough top PNG talent spread across the comp. to make them tier 1 competitive. PNG remind me of France.