PNG's back.

[reanimate]

Definitely agree but Europeans profited from war and conquest more than anybody else from the Middle Ages onwards. They literally built wealth from conquered lands.

A good example is British India. The empires of India once held the most material wealth in the world but they lacked unity (because India unlike China didn’t have this conception of a unified nation) and they were easily exploited by the British who had more sophisticated weaponry (also private companies paying off soldiers didn’t help)

India as a developing country now finds it hard to retain its best and brightest when a developed country offers better pay and lifestyle. That will eventually improve but it will take generations on generations to fix.

Now I’m not saying that hard work or talent aren’t important (far from it) but what I’m saying is that it is only one aspect and there are limitations to that theory. A lot of things are just down to luck: where you’re born, what support networks you have (who you know) and just being on the good side of fortune. For example, I could have been born in a third world country or suffered some illness that seriously affected my life. That’s got nothing to do with hard work or pulling myself up from my bootstraps crap; that is just bad luck.

Western Europeans, sure. A good chunk of South-East Europe, the Middle East and North Africa spent a lot of that time period under Ottoman rule.

 

[Wb1234]

Apparently. I read the article today. They are wanting $2m more per annum over and above what they are getting know.

I’m not surprised to be fair that they wanted more from this PNG idea

Sounds like the nrl offered one off two million payment and the clubs want it to be ongoing

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Do the clubs get to vote on accepting a expansion side such as PNG?

Each club, the QRL and NSWRL have a seat on the ARLC.

 

[Wb1234]

Each club, the QRL and NSWRL have a seat on the ARLC.

They have a vote not a seat

the commissioners have the seats

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

They have a vote not a seat

the commissioners have the seats

Having a vote gives them a lot of power.

 

[Wb1234]

Having a vote gives them a lot of power.

Which is why pvl is bribing them

imo they will get that 2 million pa out of arlc profits

its not a bad thing clubs getting so much money it makes them bulletproof

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Pretty bad if you have to bribe existing clubs.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Which is why pvl is bribing them

imo they will get that 2 million pa out of arlc profits

its not a bad thing clubs getting so much money it makes them bulletproof

Where will the ARLC find another $34m per annum?

 

[Wb1234]

Where will the ARLC find another $34m per annum?

Current profits approx 60 mill

pvl backing himself to make it up by growing revenues

eg I suspect qld govt paid more for magic
More revenue from higher ticket sales at nrl events like magic etc

he’s Greek they can find blood from a stone

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Current profits approx 60 mill

pvl backing himself to make it up by growing revenues

eg I suspect qld govt paid more for magic
More revenue from higher ticket sales at nrl events like magic etc

he’s Greek they can find blood from a stone

He might have bitten off more than he can chew this time.

Not all fans will be happy about this cash grab him V'landys and the clubs.

 

[Peach & Apricot]

One of the upsides of the PNG team is it will cement NRL as the dominant Australian sport and further consign AFL into irrelevant provincial status.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

One of the upsides of the PNG team is it will cement NRL as the dominant Australian sport and further consign AFL into irrelevant provincial status.

The comments section of The Courier Mail article about the $600m PNG deal wasn't favourable towards our game.

 

[docbrown]

But it does. PNGs inclusion kills one of those teams. I can live with it if Perth and NZ2 are the next two(within a decade) but I think we are missing out waiting for QLD5 in that case.

The assumption there being that the NRL will stop at 20 teams. You know what they say about assumptions though.

 

[docbrown]

Why? Corporations are pouring in 60 million a year out of the goodness of their hearts?
What planet are you on?

You do realise that the $60 million figure you're quoting includes all funding to all those other Pacific nations too? The amount going to the team itself is only part of that amount.

 

[docbrown]

I was on board until the " racist " remark. f**k right off with that shit.

The guy was saying they had no internet access. That's bullshit and it has racist undertones. And if you agree with him, then you go f**k yourself too.

 

[docbrown]

Guns, germs and steel.

Awesome book. The numpties on here should read it. It also drives white nationalists up the wall.

 

[Colk]

Awesome book. The numpties on here should read it. It also drives white nationalists up the wall.

It is a very good book

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Bringing an nrl team will give so many png people joy

their own team in the big league

the crowd atmosphere will be unlike anything at an Aussie league game

I think we underestimate how big a role sport can play in building the identity and confidence of a nation. It can put them on the map...

Don Bradman - Australia
All Blacks - New Zealand
Rugby Union 7s - Fiji
Soccer - Brazil
Manny Paquiao - Philippines
(Not a nation, but...) Maroons - QLD
Maradona - Argentina
Djokovic - Serbia

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Which is why pvl is bribing them

imo they will get that 2 million pa out of arlc profits

its not a bad thing clubs getting so much money it makes them bulletproof

Yeah, I don't see why the existing members shouldn't benefit from a fee paid by clubs that want in on membership.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yeah, I don't see why the existing members shouldn't benefit from a fee paid by clubs that want in on membership.

In this case it will be paid by the Australian tax payer.