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titoelcolombiano

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Whilst a PNG team would be huge for PNG, it doesn't bring anything to the table for the NRL which for good or bad needs to focus on being commercially successful. We need to not make the same mistakes as Union in Super Rugby, the Fiji Drua and to a lesser extent Moana Pasifika are unsustainable.

PNG is at the right level in the QLD Cup, it is affordable for both the Hunters and the QRL and it provides a professional pathway for young PNG players in one of the best systems in the world. That alone will give them a leg up against many other nations.

So what about the PNG faithful (fans)? Obviously following Digicel Cup and the Hunters in the QRL week-to-week, winning that comp is nothing to be sneezed at, following their favourite NRL team or following Kumuls players in the NRL. Plus... like we should be building to for every nation, the pinnacle of the game for them is the Kumuls and the international game. Make sure they are playing a meaningful tournament each year (Oceania Cup or a World Cup) and the passion of the fans can be directed to the national team who can feasibly play and compete at the top level of the international game.
 
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Wb1234

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That’s some mental gymnastics there buddy

The aid budget was 600 million last year

and who said the club would be for the elite

where was your concern about use of public money when you got that Taj Mahal for 350 million built … and with only one tenant
Whilst a PNG team would be huge for PNG, it doesn't bring anything to the table for the NRL which for good or bad needs to focus on being commercially successful. We need to not make the same mistakes as Union in Super Rugby, the Fiji Drua and to a lesser extent Moana Pasifika are unsustainable.

PNG is at the right level in the QLD Cup, it is affordable for both the Hunters and the QRL and it provides a professional pathway for young PNG players in one of the best systems in the world. That alone will give them a leg up against many other nations.

So what about the PNG faithful (fans)? Obviously following Digicel Cup and the Hunters in the QRL week-to-week, winning that comp is nothing to be sneezed at, following their favourite NRL team or following Kumuls players in the NRL. Plus... like we should be building to for every nation, the pinnacle of the game for them is the Kumuls and the international game. Make sure they are playing a meaningful tournament each year (Oceania Cup or a World Cup) and the passion of the fans can be directed to the national team who can feasibly play and compete at the top level of the international game.
If we are basing it solely on commercial criteria then no regional club would in the nrl

it would be more Sydney teams and Brisbane team

heck to maximise revenues we should just have teams based on those two cities

not every club has to be a commercial giant

that’s the whole point of expansion is using your strength in heartland areas to expand into other areas

png offers many benefits to the game that probably only the warriors can
 

Pneuma

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And this is why you reply to yourself?
Yep. By the way you are getting an absolute towelling on the Ukraine thread. Getting absolutely owned. Caught lying, exaggerating and providing misinformation. Your love for Putin is laid bare bro!
 

Pneuma

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If we are basing it solely on commercial criteria then no regional club would in the nrl

it would be more Sydney teams and Brisbane team

heck to maximise revenues we should just have teams based on those two cities

not every club has to be a commercial giant

that’s the whole point of expansion is using your strength in heartland areas to expand into other areas

png offers many benefits to the game that probably only the warriors can
Exactly.
 

Wb1234

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Yep. By the way you are getting an absolute towelling on the Ukraine thread. Getting absolutely owned. Caught lying, exaggerating and providing misinformation. Your love for Putin is laid bare bro!
Link I wanna read it
 

titoelcolombiano

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If we are basing it solely on commercial criteria then no regional club would in the nrl

it would be more Sydney teams and Brisbane team

heck to maximise revenues we should just have teams based on those two cities

not every club has to be a commercial giant

that’s the whole point of expansion is using your strength in heartland areas to expand into other areas

png offers many benefits to the game that probably only the warriors can

You might be right about what PNG brings. I do think though that while you have big city markets of Perth and Adelaide still on the table, the NRL needs to explore them first to ensure that the additional teams are more than paying their way. If we can establish a successful Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane 3 and find a way to make NZ2 commercially successful, then the game is in a better position to afford the likes of PNG. The hurdle they'd (PNG) have to overcome even at that point though, is what benefit would the NRL team provide that the QRL team isn't already providing?

Bottom line though is that I think the next few teams in definitely have to provide a commercial benefit to help the game grow its financial strength.

With regards to the regional teams being in the NRL, if they weren't already in the league and were bidding today, they would probably be behind Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane 2 in the expansion race for similar commercial reasons. Just to be clear, I'm glad we have them and certainly wouldn't want to remove them, but it is a good thing for their sake that they got in in the 80's & 90's. The Gold Coast is the exception as they would be propped up to combat the AFL side.
 

Wb1234

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You might be right about what PNG brings. I do think though that while you have big city markets of Perth and Adelaide still on the table, the NRL needs to explore them first to ensure that the additional teams are more than paying their way. If we can establish a successful Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane 3 and find a way to make NZ2 commercially successful, then the game is in a better position to afford the likes of PNG. The hurdle they'd (PNG) have to overcome even at that point though, is what benefit would the NRL team provide that the QRL team isn't already providing?

Bottom line though is that I think the next few teams in definitely have to provide a commercial benefit to help the game grow its financial strength.
Yes
 
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If we are basing it solely on commercial criteria then no regional club would in the nrl

it would be more Sydney teams and Brisbane team

heck to maximise revenues we should just have teams based on those two cities

not every club has to be a commercial giant

that’s the whole point of expansion is using your strength in heartland areas to expand into other areas

png offers many benefits to the game that probably only the warriors can
The ignorance of some people and the mental gymnastics they use to uphold their biased opinions is bewildering.

The Cowboys generate more revenue from football operations than every club except the Broncos. I created a thread on this subject citing data from the annual reports of the clubs. If the competition was based around commercial interests then we would have a team in all five metropolitan markets and cull four to five Sydney clubs.
 
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You might be right about what PNG brings. I do think though that while you have big city markets of Perth and Adelaide still on the table, the NRL needs to explore them first to ensure that the additional teams are more than paying their way. If we can establish a successful Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane 3 and find a way to make NZ2 commercially successful, then the game is in a better position to afford the likes of PNG. The hurdle they'd (PNG) have to overcome even at that point though, is what benefit would the NRL team provide that the QRL team isn't already providing?

Bottom line though is that I think the next few teams in definitely have to provide a commercial benefit to help the game grow its financial strength.

With regards to the regional teams being in the NRL, if they weren't already in the league and were bidding today, they would probably be behind Perth, Adelaide and Brisbane 2 in the expansion race for similar commercial reasons. Just to be clear, I'm glad we have them and certainly wouldn't want to remove them, but it is a good thing for their sake that they got in in the 80's & 90's. The Gold Coast is the exception as they would be propped up to combat the AFL side.
Perth, Adelaide and a third Brisbane team offer commercial value.

I hate to say it, but New Zealand 2 wouldn't command much interest from the Australian corporate sector. There's only one major market in New Zealand and it's around the size of Adelaide. It also has a team and cannot support a second one.
 

Pneuma

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The ignorance of some people and the mental gymnastics they use to uphold their biased opinions is bewildering.

The Cowboys generate more revenue from football operations than every club except the Broncos. I created a thread on this subject citing data from the annual reports of the clubs. If the competition was based around commercial interests then we would have a team in all five metropolitan markets and cull four to five Sydney clubs.
You really are a rude repulsive little man aren’t you?
 

DIOGENES

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Several pages of insults ago someone said:
First there's actually policy bought before government.. I haven't even seen anything in the form of a conversation with He's own party ffs.

It has been Labor policy for the last 5 years

 

Mr Angry

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Look they have no Stadium.

If serious they need a stadium, not sure who ponies up the money, but until then
 

Wb1234

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Look they have no Stadium.

If serious they need a stadium, not sure who ponies up the money, but until then
Well they could play in this cow paddock until they get a new stadium

 

Brian potter

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The hunters in its current form give and provide everything to talented kumuls by ways of providing pathways to the NRL.

A PNG NRL franchise would just be a financial albatross around the necks of the NRL and the governments of both Australia and PNG.

Hunters Junior teams ranging from u18’s to u21’s playing in the Queensland youth competitions would be a better use of funding than a potential NRL franchise.
 

Gobsmacked

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The hunters in its current form give and provide everything to talented kumuls by ways of providing pathways to the NRL.

A PNG NRL franchise would just be a financial albatross around the necks of the NRL and the governments of both Australia and PNG.

Hunters Junior teams ranging from u18’s to u21’s playing in the Queensland youth competitions would be a better use of funding than a potential NRL franchise.
You're right. There's a pathway already with the Hunters.
It'll take at least 20 million a year to have an NRL team.
Imagine the impact of that same 20 million was just spent on juniors and development!
20 million goes a bloody loooong way in PNG!
 

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