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[Pneuma]

Being realistic isn't being negative.

Then be realistic and stop being so negative.

 

[The Great Dane]

A club needs around $32mill a year to be viable. A PNG club would need more if they go with the crazy based in Australia model, extra security in PNG for visiting teams etc as infrastructure costs would be greater.

NRL tips in $17mill (though it expects an overall ROI from that through increased TV and corporates deals). Leaves $15mill a year min the club needs. Throw in the loss of revenue increase to the NRL of having a team of no real value to TV or Australian companies and theyd want to see something they can skim off the top. Your basically looking at needing at least $20mill+ forever, or at least our lifetimes, for it to be financially worthwhile and viable.

That's before we get into how they build a squad and keep them, how they cope with travelling every weekend, how you get TV to agree, what you need to invest in PNG systems to develop players.

Batsht crazy idea but part of me would love to see us have the balls to try it, that'd be a big break out moment out for a super conservative sport like RL.

A PNG side would need way more than $32mil a year to be viable.

Obviously you'd need to create a business plan to get a more accurate number, but I'd be willing to bet that it'd be over $40mil a year, and maybe even closer to $50mil than $40mil, and that's not including investment into necessary start up infrastructure. The security and travel costs alone would be insane compared to the other teams in the league, and I doubt that there's a local broadcaster with the equipment to cover the NRL to the standards expected by customers in Australia, or that local broadcasters would be happy with the increased costs of covering games in PNG either.

The only way it could work is if it was a PNG team in name only, but that would kind of defeat the purpose.

BTW, Tonga couldn't even support a NSW Cup side. It'd have to be more or less 100% funded by the Australian and/or Kiwi taxpayer, and again, how long will that funding last?

 

[The Great Dane]

Then be realistic and stop being so negative.

Saying this will never work is being realistic in this case...

Not everything can be sunshine, lollipops and rainbows, and pretending that can will lead to disaster.

 

[MugaB]

Then be realistic and stop being so negative.

 

[Pneuma]

Saying this will never work is being realistic in this case...

Not everything can be sunshine, lollipops and rainbows, and pretending that can will lead to disaster.

Thanks captain obvious

 

[Diesel]

Just look at Moans Pacifica in the super rugby. In a heartland area for RU, in a large Polynesian population and isn’t drawing a crowd. Now they’re wanting to ditch Mt Smart and become a travelling nomad team of sorts with multiple home grounds. If PNG/Pacifica go down the same road they’re going to need a different business model to MP

 

[The Great Dane]

Thanks captain obvious

LOL

 

[Diesel]

Whoever it was that mentioned Hawaii as a location, in theory it’s a good idea but in practice, the games would be played in summer. Also the only time that would work would be evening in Hawaii which would be 3/4pm here which clashes with a good time for the Warriors on Saturday or the Sunday arvo games

 

[MugaB]

Just look at Moans Pacifica in the super rugby. In a heartland area for RU, in a large Polynesian population and isn’t drawing a crowd. Now they’re wanting to ditch Mt Smart and become a travelling nomad team of sorts with multiple home grounds. If PNG/Pacifica go down the same road they’re going to need a different business model to MP

Or theyll just do it better... remember league has better opposition, it has the broncos, souths, storm, roosters, penrith...etc these are draw cards for fans to come watch, Dolphins have become an apparent success....RU doesnt have that level pull..

 

[The Great Dane]

Whoever it was that mentioned Hawaii as a location, in theory it’s a good idea but in practice, the games would be played in summer. Also the only time that would work would be evening in Hawaii which would be 3/4pm here which clashes with a good time for the Warriors on Saturday or the Sunday arvo games

You could work around both of those issues relatively easily.

There are plenty of other issues with Hawaii that would have to be addressed though, but it's still a better option than any other proposal that I've seen so far.

 

[Canard]

Or theyll just do it better... remember league has better opposition, it has the broncos, souths, storm, roosters, penrith...etc these are draw cards for fans to come watch, Dolphins have become an apparent success....RU doesnt have that level pull..

None of those clubs are bigger draws then a Union team full of Tongans, Samoans and All Blacks.

It's either sheer arrogance or pure ignorance to think they will suddenly embrace League over Union.

 

[MugaB]

None of those clubs are bigger draws then a Union team full of Tongans, Samoans and All Blacks.

It's either sheer arrogance or pure ignorance to think they will suddenly embrace League over Union.

In New Zealand i agree, but not on the islands, and not in PNG.... maybe fiji, but they seem to be more open to both codes, they favor union coz they have a 1st grade team playing in the comp, thats where RL needs to get to... i was there in late January, on holidays, and most pubs had the world 7s on with folks crowded around the teles.
A few of the locals, would should shout "sivo, sivo,sivo" as i had a few panthers shirts on during the fortnight stay, they seem to like parra coz sivo is a famous RL player... i would have thought a 2 time winning Kikau was more of a local hero.. but mika sivo is the one

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

There's a reason PNG fails to produce a long list of NRL quality players on a regular basis. The average height in PNG for men is 5'4".

Justin Olam is 5'10". That's enormous for a Papuan. You have to go back 20 years to find another Papuan-born outside back who was NRL standard (Marcus Bai). He stood at 5'11". Only a very small amount of Papuans are around that height. In Australia, 5'11" is only an inch or two above the average height. 5'11" in PNG is the equivalent of 6'4" in Australia. Less than 15% of Australians are over 6'0". Olam is often shorter than many of his team mates and opponents.

If we want to increase the amount of talent generated in PNG then we'll need to improve the nutritional intake of the entire country and wait 20 years.

Average human height by country - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Perth Red]

There's a reason PNG fails to produce a long list of NRL quality players on a regular basis. The average height in PNG for men is 5'4".

Justin Olam is 5'10". That's enormous for a Papuan. You have to go back 20 years to find another Papuan-born outside back who was NRL standard (Marcus Bai). He stood at 5'11". Only a very small amount of Papuans are around that height. In Australia, 5'11" is only an inch or two above the average height. 5'11" in PNG is the equivalent of 6'4" in Australia. Less than 15% of Australians are over 6'0". Olam is often shorter than many of his team mates and opponents.

If we want to increase the amount of talent generated in PNG then we'll need to improve the nutritional intake of the entire country and wait 20 years.

Average human height by country - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Or just have them in the backline and hooker lol

What they lose in height they make up for in steel. Stanly Gene was one of the toughest half backs Ive ever seen despite being only 5ft 5"

I guess PAsifika can get the centres, halves and hooker from PNG, wings from Fiji and forwards from Tonga and Samoa lol

 

[MugaB]

There's a reason PNG fails to produce a long list of NRL quality players on a regular basis. The average height in PNG for men is 5'4".

Justin Olam is 5'10". That's enormous for a Papuan. You have to go back 20 years to find another Papuan-born outside back who was NRL standard (Marcus Bai). He stood at 5'11". Only a very small amount of Papuans are around that height. In Australia, 5'11" is only an inch or two above the average height. 5'11" in PNG is the equivalent of 6'4" in Australia. Less than 15% of Australians are over 6'0". Olam is often shorter than many of his team mates and opponents.

If we want to increase the amount of talent generated in PNG then we'll need to improve the nutritional intake of the entire country and wait 20 years.

Average human height by country - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Or we just import the giants that live in singapore...
FMD what a potato counting racist, so by your logic, all kiwis are small coz of stacey jones, gene ngamu and kodi nikorima, yet we have Guys like JWH, JFH, and NAS

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Or just have them in the backline and hooker lol

What they lose in height they make up for in steel. Stanly Gene was one of the toughest half backs Ive ever seen despite being only 5ft 5"

I guess PAsifika can get the centres, halves and hooker from PNG, wings from Fiji and forwards from Tonga and Samoa lol

PNG would be a good place to scout ball running half-backs, five-eights and dummy halves. Our game is short on quality halves.

Fiji can provide strong wingers, centres and second rowers.

I still wouldn't bring in a PNG or Pasifika team. It's better to improve the standards of living in PNG and strengthen to the local competition.

 

[Pneuma]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2023-peter-vlandys-reveals-plans-for-new-expansion-team-by-2026-papua-new-guinea-top-of-the-list/news-story/f16257cda1e09e7e787f934a089afe01?amp&nk=91d6c1a8d28e9ed696e8cd740cb96b3e-1685832292

 

[mongoose]

dick move by PVL to get PNG's hopes up like this...

 

[Pneuma]

South Pacific Rugby League (SPRL)

The NRL is no longer an appropriate name for our comp. We consist of teams from two countries, not one. The name is too Australia centric. My proposal is to rename the comp and to rebuild it into a truly South Pacific Competition. I’m proposing three new teams: PNG NZ2 Perth or Brisbane 3 With...

forums.leagueunlimited.com

 

[Pneuma]

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