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Poor Ben Hunt

justadragon

Bench
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It's Business these days, if he can jag a contract which helps him retire early or not to have to work a normal job after footy good on him, i would do the same, if im getting $700k from Dragons and Dogs offer me $1m Woof Woof where do i sign, any teams that offers the $1m i would sign for.
i agree with you entirely, but business is a 2 way street, you get paid a sum of money and you earn it, in this case hunt was paid to get the dragons into finals as an elite player, that hasnt happened, not all his fault i get that, but he is now being offered what the dragons think he is worth, and that is good business from the dragons, he can go to woof woof land and get what he might not earn,,, so be it and good luck, but in the real world you would be punted for non performance in your job on a salary like that, and it wouldnt take 5 years.
 

Mojo

Bench
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i agree with you entirely, but business is a 2 way street, you get paid a sum of money and you earn it, in this case hunt was paid to get the dragons into finals as an elite player, that hasnt happened, not all his fault i get that, but he is now being offered what the dragons think he is worth, and that is good business from the dragons, he can go to woof woof land and get what he might not earn,,, so be it and good luck, but in the real world you would be punted for non performance in your job on a salary like that, and it wouldnt take 5 years.
In business you also get a boot up the arse if you actively negotiate with competitors while being paid top dollar by your current employer.
 

dungay dragon

Juniors
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Did any of the soft cock journos ask Hunt or our beleaguered Coach Re the lack of involvement in Hunt against the Tigers
Was he injured , sick or just dis interested ????????? Nothing
During the match both Sully and Amone were benched , but Hook didnt have the grape fruits to rest Benny...Interesting
Might hve to fire up the Ryan Webb thread again...got things moving last time 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
 

Illusion

Bench
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Did any of the soft cock journos ask Hunt or our beleaguered Coach Re the lack of involvement in Hunt against the Tigers
Was he injured , sick or just dis interested ????????? Nothing
During the match both Sully and Amone were benched , but Hook didnt have the grape fruits to rest Benny...Interesting
Might hve to fire up the Ryan Webb thread again...got things moving last time 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
Yep do it ......
 

Mjab

Juniors
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The other dumb shit Hunt does are these crap short drop outs

Ok this one actually won us the game I accept but it should have cost us the game in reality

Last week cost us a try with the dumb short drop out only he knew he was doing and failed to get, led to a try

You either have to practice this shit and get it right or not do it at all

DCE does this well almost every week, he obviously practices it and the good option he often does is the short low smashed dropout to the side line about 15m out which teams often bungle , including us when we played Manly
 

Saint Jed

Juniors
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Hunt and Hook have to go - both are just in it for it for themselves. If Bud Sloane and Amone were picked every round this year no doubt we would been a top 4 team. Hunt is so up himself, overrated and only after the money and its obvious that he is holding our young stars "who are more than ready" back - the sooner his shown the door and the coach is pissed off as well the better.
 

Mojo

Bench
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The other dumb shit Hunt does are these crap short drop outs

Ok this one actually won us the game I accept but it should have cost us the game in reality

Last week cost us a try with the dumb short drop out only he knew he was doing and failed to get, led to a try

You either have to practice this shit and get it right or not do it at all

DCE does this well almost every week, he obviously practices it and the good option he often does is the short low smashed dropout to the side line about 15m out which teams often bungle , including us when we played Manly
Couldn't agree more. I hate the short drop out. If it succeeds, then you've got possession maybe 20 metres from your own goal line. Great! If it doesn't succeed, which I reckon is about 90% of the time, then you're under attack on your own goal line, six to go! Why offer the opposition an opportunity to attack again in your red zone, immediately after you've been defending your line in the previous set? It's a shit tactic. Drill the damn thing straight down the guts as far as possible, chase it like a mad greyhound and tackle the bastards as deep in their half as possible. Who gives a shit if its predictable?

The other super dumb tactic that annoys me is kick offs that flirt with the dead ball line and the sidelines. Again drill it down the middle of the field and get in their face asap. Don't be a dumb poser trying to explore the extremities of the field.

While I'm in full rant mode:

I also can't stand the penalties for tackling a catcher whose feet aren't on the ground. It's the catcher's responsibility to catch the fkn ball without making himself a sitting duck. It's the defender's responsibility to nail the bastard. It's always been a penalty (and dirty play) to deliberately try to injure a player. It's not a fkn ballet!

Same goes for attacking the head. FFS, guys would get sent off these days for applying a warm towel to the face of the opposing player.

These days apparently its legal to tackle the guy without touching above the neck and then elbow him in the face once he's on the ground. I'd much prefer a gutsy tackle followed by a clean ruck.

I don't like the captain's challenge either. The ref makes the call - good, bad or indifferent. P off and shut up, whether you're the captain or not! We can throw stuff at the prick after the game if he's been really shithouse. It's part of the game! How often does the ref make a correct call only to be overruled by bunker bullshit judgments? The sooner we get back to one ref makes the call and that's it, the better.

Some of these rules are obviously simply designed to bring the bunker into the game to generate TV entertainment value. Well, the most entertaining games are always the least interrupted - even badly refereed or controversial ones. Everyone who loves the game feels that way.
 

dannyt

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Couldn't agree more. I hate the short drop out. If it succeeds, then you've got possession maybe 20 metres from your own goal line. Great! If it doesn't succeed, which I reckon is about 90% of the time, then you're under attack on your own goal line, six to go! Why offer the opposition an opportunity to attack again in your red zone, immediately after you've been defending your line in the previous set? It's a shit tactic. Drill the damn thing straight down the guts as far as possible, chase it like a mad greyhound and tackle the bastards as deep in their half as possible. Who gives a shit if its predictable?

The other super dumb tactic that annoys me is kick offs that flirt with the dead ball line and the sidelines. Again drill it down the middle of the field and get in their face asap. Don't be a dumb poser trying to explore the extremities of the field.

While I'm in full rant mode:

I also can't stand the penalties for tackling a catcher whose feet aren't on the ground. It's the catcher's responsibility to catch the fkn ball without making himself a sitting duck. It's the defender's responsibility to nail the bastard. It's always been a penalty (and dirty play) to deliberately try to injure a player. It's not a fkn ballet!

Same goes for attacking the head. FFS, guys would get sent off these days for applying a warm towel to the face of the opposing player.

These days apparently its legal to tackle the guy without touching above the neck and then elbow him in the face once he's on the ground. I'd much prefer a gutsy tackle followed by a clean ruck.

I don't like the captain's challenge either. The ref makes the call - good, bad or indifferent. P off and shut up, whether you're the captain or not! We can throw stuff at the prick after the game if he's been really shithouse. It's part of the game! How often does the ref make a correct call only to be overruled by bunker bullshit judgments? The sooner we get back to one ref makes the call and that's it, the better.

Some of these rules are obviously simply designed to bring the bunker into the game to generate TV entertainment value. Well, the most entertaining games are always the least interrupted - even badly refereed or controversial ones. Everyone who loves the game feels that way.
Impressive rant
 

Gareth67

First Grade
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Couldn't agree more. I hate the short drop out. If it succeeds, then you've got possession maybe 20 metres from your own goal line. Great! If it doesn't succeed, which I reckon is about 90% of the time, then you're under attack on your own goal line, six to go! Why offer the opposition an opportunity to attack again in your red zone, immediately after you've been defending your line in the previous set? It's a shit tactic. Drill the damn thing straight down the guts as far as possible, chase it like a mad greyhound and tackle the bastards as deep in their half as possible. Who gives a shit if its predictable?

The other super dumb tactic that annoys me is kick offs that flirt with the dead ball line and the sidelines. Again drill it down the middle of the field and get in their face asap. Don't be a dumb poser trying to explore the extremities of the field.

While I'm in full rant mode:

I also can't stand the penalties for tackling a catcher whose feet aren't on the ground. It's the catcher's responsibility to catch the fkn ball without making himself a sitting duck. It's the defender's responsibility to nail the bastard. It's always been a penalty (and dirty play) to deliberately try to injure a player. It's not a fkn ballet!

Same goes for attacking the head. FFS, guys would get sent off these days for applying a warm towel to the face of the opposing player.

These days apparently its legal to tackle the guy without touching above the neck and then elbow him in the face once he's on the ground. I'd much prefer a gutsy tackle followed by a clean ruck.

I don't like the captain's challenge either. The ref makes the call - good, bad or indifferent. P off and shut up, whether you're the captain or not! We can throw stuff at the prick after the game if he's been really shithouse. It's part of the game! How often does the ref make a correct call only to be overruled by bunker bullshit judgments? The sooner we get back to one ref makes the call and that's it, the better.

Some of these rules are obviously simply designed to bring the bunker into the game to generate TV entertainment value. Well, the most entertaining games are always the least interrupted - even badly refereed or controversial ones. Everyone who loves the game feels that way.
Well said Mojo , however there is another aspect to the game that has been introduced - courtesy of the Storm - and that is tackling a opponent with 3 or even 4 players and then 3 will take their hands off him to allow the 4th player to strip the ball .

That is just so wrong , it goes against the spirit of the game and whoever introduced that rule should be horsewhipped and run out of town . 😡
 

dannyt

Coach
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Well said Mojo , however there is another aspect to the game that has been introduced - courtesy of the Storm - and that is tackling a opponent with 3 or even 4 players and then 3 will take their hands off him to allow the 4th player to strip the ball .

That is just so wrong , it goes against the spirit of the game and whoever introduced that rule should be horsewhipped and run out of town . 😡
I thought Josh Hodgson first did that when playing for Canberra. Could be wrong.
 

TruSaint

Referee
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I thought Josh Hodgson first did that when playing for Canberra. Could be wrong.

Danny he was one of the best at it. I remember well.

However, the Storm have mastered the art as well. I think between Hodgson and Munster you will find the most strips. Just a guess.
 
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Danny he was one of the best at it. I remember well.

However, the Storm have mastered the art as well. I think between Hodgson and Munster you will find the most strips. Just a guess.
From what I recall though many of Munsters and Hodgson’s are true 1-on-1s. That is great to see. More recently you have four people hanging onto the tackler, then they all ‘fall off’ moments before one of them reefs it out.
 

Hard Yards

Juniors
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Hunt and Hook have to go - both are just in it for it for themselves. If Bud Sloane and Amone were picked every round this year no doubt we would been a top 4 team. Hunt is so up himself, overrated and only after the money and its obvious that he is holding our young stars "who are more than ready" back - the sooner his shown the door and the coach is pissed off as well the better.
Hook and Hunt are contracted for next year, and will likely remain for 23. Not to mention sacking the club captain and head coach now when both assistant coaches are being replaced hardly creates or sends a strong positive signal to our roster or would be recruits.
 
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From what I recall though many of Munsters and Hodgson’s are true 1-on-1s. That is great to see. More recently you have four people hanging onto the tackler, then they all ‘fall off’ moments before one of them reefs it out.
Nuh. Raiders tactic. Started doing it in 2019, they were the only team doing it, and they got to the grand final on the back of it. I hate the rule. If there's more than 1 in the tackle to start with, you shouldn't be allowed to strip.
 

dannyt

Coach
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Nuh. Raiders tactic. Started doing it in 2019, they were the only team doing it, and they got to the grand final on the back of it. I hate the rule. If there's more than 1 in the tackle to start with, you shouldn't be allowed to strip.
I remember the days when a strip could occur irrespective if how many players were involved in a tackle.
 

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