Mark, what does it cost the club per game for the stadium, and what would be a ballpark average price per head be for supporters.
Do you know the final figures on the crowd at the St George game, as that was a fair crowd. Mark lets say there were 20,000 people at the game the other night, and for argument sake lets say they paid $10 each, giving a $200,000 gate.
Judging by the Stadium annual report and knowing that we signed a new agreement with the stadium if 110,300 is the budget over 10 games at Parramatta would be $11,030 a game just for hiring the Stadium we have yet to include thing like corporate boxes or anything else which could see us paying something like $100,000 a game, before income and expenses on the Catering and Liquor.
The Final figure was 19,017. Now the Average Ticket cost is about $25 dollars if the stadium was full and everyone paid full price. Also remember you have to subtract from that the approximately 5 thousand or so Season Ticket Holders who get in for a greatly reduced cost per game. Still it would have been a nice little earner for the club, if we could get it every week we would never have to go to ANZ.
Lets work out a maximum on ground costs, security, overheads, insurance,tax, catering etc. lets say that comes to $100,000? does that not leave the club 100k in pocket for one game. Your 200,000 reasons mate dont hold a candle to what the ground could produce for us, and supporters are close to the game, players actually have an atmosphere, and we have a home advantage.
For a full house, you are right, we might come close to making $200,000, but what happens when we don't get a full house? What happens if we have to pay and not make a cent on a game?
Lets say for games of less that 10,000 people the club makes a loss, using your averages then yeah $100,000 is not helping the club, indeed it is making a loss and we have to spend money and take a punt to make that loss. Where as at ANZ Stadium we have no costs, plus the Money earned per game, plus I know from people at the Rabbitohs and the Bulldogs, if the crowd numbers go over a certain point, the clubs get profit sharing.
As to Atmosphere, I was at ANZ Stadium for our game against the Rabbitohs, I had my sports ears on. The sound coming from the Stands was awesome. The best I have heard from any game in a long time. Last weekends Dragons game came close but ANZ Stadium against the Rabbitohs gets the win.
BTW our Record at ANZ in 2008 wasn't to shabby, We played 5 and lost 2. Where as at Parramatta Stadium we played 10 and lost 5. So while those intangibles are there, we don't seem to be taking advantage of them any rate.
TV will go to any ground for a game, they just have a say in which game will be televised, not venue.
The one thing you may correct me on Mark is this, our ground sponsors dont get any value with us being at ANZ, or are there portable signs taken out there for each game?
Yes, as far as I remember the are some portable signage for the areas that are visible, especially behind the in-goal. So again money for nothing for the Eels as the Stadium covers the costs involved with those hoardings. Sponsors Boxes are taken care of at ANZ and there are many more of them allowing for more sponsors to come on board, unlike Parramatta Stadium which is normally full.
Indeed TV will go to any ground but they get the choice of when the go to which ground.
Mark the Stadium is a great ground for player and fan alike, its our home and we should be making it a graveyard for other teams, not flittering advantage away.
Yeah no doubt it is a great ground, but we don't seem to win there even when we have that advantage, the crowd you mention at the top of this email, was predominately St George Illawarra Supporters. I strongly believe we will get will in advance of 20,857 (Parramatta Stadium Maximum) this Sunday because the venue is capable of holding more and has many more advantages for fans than Parramatta Stadium I am sorry to say.
Mark I think it was yourself who put forward in a post a few weeks ago, that last year 160,000 people attended the stadium over 10 games? not a bad average, and at $10 a head is 1.6 million dollars. What were the profit and loss on the ground last year Mark, do you have an idea, ballpark.
No it was not me.
I have no Idea for the Profit/Loss in 2008, 2007's annual report sees the ground was 5,300,000 in the black after a 5,454,545 million dollar grant so in effect in 2007 they lost $150,000.
