Price To be sacked Brown in

[barry]

Is it fair to say that besides bennet no coach besides Brown really brings the best out of each player ?

How many players played origin or for their country under brown ?

Out of Browns jersey Flegg teams how many of those players went on to have a successfull league career?

I can not see any of our juniors really making it to first grade, under brown we had so much potential in the lower grades.

Even in England he knows true talent and knows how to bring the best out of each player.

Bring back Brown I say

 

[dragon-83]

Price to get the sack hope so.

 

[pinkmoon]

Any views on Daniel Anderson FT?
My preference in this schemozzle.

I would have loved Daniel Anderson three years ago when Bennett retired, because the place was still in pretty good shape, and I think he could have done a great job on the back of Bennett's work. I love the way he coached the Eels in 09!

My concern is more to do with his ability to lift us from our current predicament, given the style that he has coached with in the past. It's an attacking brand, it's a risky brand, and the game has changed significantly since he last coached a first grade side. Today's game is very structured and very physical, and I just wonder if he has what it takes to inject the necessary steel required to pull us out of the hole we are in. There are far worse options in my opinion, and I think he would do better than Price ;-)

 

[pinkmoon]

Is it fair to say that besides bennet no coach besides Brown really brings the best out of each player ?

How many players played origin or for their country under brown ?

Out of Browns jersey Flegg teams how many of those players went on to have a successfull league career?

I can not see any of our juniors really making it to first grade, under brown we had so much potential in the lower grades.

Even in England he knows true talent and knows how to bring the best out of each player.

Bring back Brown I say

Brown was great at bringing players through, and I think he had some great attributes, but results speak for themselves unfortunately. We underachieved, and we made some terrible school boy errors in those days; it took a great coach like Bennett to step in and rid us of the inconsistencies. I think it's a case of "been there, done that" and we move on in a new direction.

Personally, I think the whole joint needs a clean out. No Price, no McGregor, no Young...I probably would refrain from ousting Doust at this stage though...He proved with Bennett, that with the right coach in control, he can manage the job. We did win a premiership with him at the helm, and I think the financial position of the club has more to do with Leagues Club funding (or lack thereof) than any wrong doing on Doust's behalf. I am gutted that we no longer play all of our home matches at Kogarah and WIN, but I also think Douche's hands were tied.

 

[Father Ted]

Any views on Daniel Anderson FT?
My preference in this schemozzle.

I Don't have a view on him at the moment am I right in saying it's been a while since he coached? But he'd probably be worth a punt. Thing is for reasons like "losing Face with the fans". As in the big review last year where the board cleared Price of the blame how can they be seen to reverse their thinking so quickly .( I think that trains already left the station on the face thing imo ) and mainly because we don't have the cash to pay out a coach Price may see out the season. Mind you if we lose the next half dozen there may be no choice but MacGregor as head coach scares me as much as or even more than Price..
That old curse may you live in interesting times .. Indeed.

 

[BennyV]

Brown was great at bringing players through, and I think he had some great attributes, but results speak for themselves unfortunately. We underachieved, and we made some terrible school boy errors in those days; it took a great coach like Bennett to step in and rid us of the inconsistencies. I think it's a case of "been there, done that" and we move on in a new direction.

Personally, I think the whole joint needs a clean out. No Price, no McGregor, no Young...I probably would refrain from ousting Doust at this stage though...He proved with Bennett, that with the right coach in control, he can manage the job. We did win a premiership with him at the helm, and I think the financial position of the club has more to do with Leagues Club funding (or lack thereof) than any wrong doing on Doust's behalf. I am gutted that we no longer play all of our home matches at Kogarah and WIN, but I also think Douche's hands were tied.

I tend to give Brownie the benefit of the doubt when it comes to results - as Bennett said, you need more than a killer team to win a premiership, you need a hell of a lot of luck when it comes to bounce of the ball and oppositions too. Eg, Maguire, IMO, may have also underacheived with the current Souffs team so far, because he has a great team but hasn't won the big one. In reality, wed take him in a heartbeat because he is fielding a team that is competitive each year.

Brownie has a brilliant team that was, for the most part, very competitive each year, played an exciting brand of footy and came very close to the big one more than once. It was a team that he built, and it was also all done by an inexperienced coach just out of first grade. Compare that to what else is on the market, and it's a no brainer!

 

[twinkletoes]

Hornby & Dean Young are going great and have been appointed U16's Origin coaches. Give them a go as stand in coaches for the rest of the season while we select a longer term coach. I know they are close to the playing group and need a lot more experience to take this role on longer term but they seem to be able to motivate their younger sides and may work for the remainder of this year???

 

[God-King Dean]

Well they've played for Dragons, so they meet all the requirements.

 

[Slippery Morris]

Bennett inherited a great team in 2009 which Browny built hence why the 3 good years followed. He had guys like Hunt, Creagh and Prior playing great footy. Bennett just put the finishing touches. As we have seen in Newcastle Bennett has not had the same success. People under estimate the work Browny did prior to Bennett coming in. Bennett more or less mentally prepared the team better.

Browny has much more experience now and I am pretty confident Saints won't be avoiding spoons when he comes in and be much more competitive. He gets the best out of players. All his mates are gone now so it will be a different enviroment for him. With Benji, Widdop, Dugan and Merrin I think the squad is built for Browny or Sheens to excel in.

If anything Bennett was responsible for losing Josh Morris as he thought he was only good enough as a winger where as Browny would have made more of an effort to keep Josh Morris and he would have been in the Centres as we speak instead went to the Dogs and killed it.

 

[Inspector Gadget]

Bennett inherited a great team in 2009 which Browny built hence why the 3 good years followed. He had guys like Hunt, Creagh and Prior playing great footy. Bennett just put the finishing touches. As we have seen in Newcastle Bennett has not had the same success. People under estimate the work Browny did prior to Bennett coming in. Bennett more or less mentally prepared the team better.

Browny has much more experience now and I am pretty confident Saints won't be avoiding spoons when he comes in and be much more competitive. He gets the best out of players. All his mates are gone now so it will be a different enviroment for him. With Benji, Widdop, Dugan and Merrin I think the squad is built for Browny or Sheens to excel in.

If anything Bennett was responsible for losing Josh Morris as he thought he was only good enough as a winger where as Browny would have made more of an effort to keep Josh Morris and he would have been in the Centres as we speak instead went to the Dogs and killed it.

Pretty Accurate summation.

 

[Coffs dragon]

Bennett inherited a great team in 2009 which Browny built hence why the 3 good years followed. He had guys like Hunt, Creagh and Prior playing great footy. Bennett just put the finishing touches. As we have seen in Newcastle Bennett has not had the same success. People under estimate the work Browny did prior to Bennett coming in. Bennett more or less mentally prepared the team better.

Browny has much more experience now and I am pretty confident Saints won't be avoiding spoons when he comes in and be much more competitive. He gets the best out of players. All his mates are gone now so it will be a different enviroment for him. With Benji, Widdop, Dugan and Merrin I think the squad is built for Browny or Sheens to excel in.

If anything Bennett was responsible for losing Josh Morris as he thought he was only good enough as a winger where as Browny would have made more of an effort to keep Josh Morris and he would have been in the Centres as we speak instead went to the Dogs and killed it.

100% agree with you Slippery and still remember Bennett's words that he inherited a team in good shape thanks to Brownie . All he had to do was strengthen the underbelly and control their discipline. Pretty similar to what is exactly required now. Brownie has that special ability to identity & develop talent. It's time for the new and improved Nathan Brown to return and save us.

 

[DUB888]

Bennett inherited a great team in 2009 which Browny built hence why the 3 good years followed. He had guys like Hunt, Creagh and Prior playing great footy. Bennett just put the finishing touches. As we have seen in Newcastle Bennett has not had the same success. People under estimate the work Browny did prior to Bennett coming in. Bennett more or less mentally prepared the team better.

Browny has much more experience now and I am pretty confident Saints won't be avoiding spoons when he comes in and be much more competitive. He gets the best out of players. All his mates are gone now so it will be a different enviroment for him. With Benji, Widdop, Dugan and Merrin I think the squad is built for Browny or Sheens to excel in.

If anything Bennett was responsible for losing Josh Morris as he thought he was only good enough as a winger where as Browny would have made more of an effort to keep Josh Morris and he would have been in the Centres as we speak instead went to the Dogs and killed it.

Well done Slippery , forget coaching statistics in selecting a new coach , argue with some reality as you have done in your post.

 

[Slippery Morris]

I have sent emails to Dousty regarding this and heard nothing. My cousin I mean Nathan Brown is a good coach....Just kidding. No relation.

I thought he was a great footballer and coach. Very good football brain as Gus Gould has also mentioned many times. Most importantly bleeds red and white. If you want a guy who really loves the red V and hurts when they lose it is him. One thing for sure he would not be smiling in press confrences after games when they have been humiliated.

I have mentioned this many times but in 2006 (I think it was) he was asked in an interview if he can have anyone like Lockyer, Johns etc who would you have. His response was. None of those guys just a kid playing at Wentworthville named Jarryd Hayne. 3 Years later he knocked us out of the Finals and got Parra to the GF. No fluke there, he just knows talent when he sees it.

 

[tumbidragon]

If I'm not mistaken Brown also wanted to bring Thurston to the club when everyone else thought he was too small for the game... Could be wrong though.

 

[jenninga]

I have sent emails to Dousty regarding this and heard nothing. My cousin I mean Nathan Brown is a good coach....Just kidding. No relation.

I thought he was a great footballer and coach. Very good football brain as Gus Gould has also mentioned many times. Most importantly bleeds red and white. If you want a guy who really loves the red V and hurts when they lose it is him. One thing for sure he would not be smiling in press confrences after games when they have been humiliated.

I have mentioned this many times but in 2006 (I think it was) he was asked in an interview if he can have anyone like Lockyer, Johns etc who would you have. His response was. None of those guys just a kid playing at Wentworthville named Jarryd Hayne. 3 Years later he knocked us out of the Finals and got Parra to the GF. No fluke there, he just knows talent when he sees it.

When Browny was appointed coach I thought this is too early.I said he should go away for 5 years then come back and coach us.
Only problem with Browny as coach I see is it doesn't keep Doust away from the running of the team like what happened under Bennett.Remember seeing Doust IN the coaches box when Browny was coach and this is unacceptable.

 

[dragonreddy]

Bennett inherited a great team in 2009 which Browny built hence why the 3 good years followed. He had guys like Hunt, Creagh and Prior playing great footy. Bennett just put the finishing touches. As we have seen in Newcastle Bennett has not had the same success. People under estimate the work Browny did prior to Bennett coming in. Bennett more or less mentally prepared the team better.

Browny has much more experience now and I am pretty confident Saints won't be avoiding spoons when he comes in and be much more competitive. He gets the best out of players. All his mates are gone now so it will be a different enviroment for him. With Benji, Widdop, Dugan and Merrin I think the squad is built for Browny or Sheens to excel in.

If anything Bennett was responsible for losing Josh Morris as he thought he was only good enough as a winger where as Browny would have made more of an effort to keep Josh Morris and he would have been in the Centres as we speak instead went to the Dogs and killed it.

I agree with your summation of Browny, for a young bloke he did exceptionally well and he would of learned a lot since leaving the Dragons cocoon.As far as Bennett goes he did more than tweak the side he bought with him BOYD ,WEYMAN ,COSTIGAN, SMITH,PRIDDIS all key players who made a difference and it would be fair to say got the best out of Ben Hornby and Soward and Beau Scott, he taught Dan Hunt how to hang on to the ball (big achievement) as well as Brett Morris ,so i think tweaking is underplaying what Bennett did for us. I think rehiring Brown is just more of the same old recycling of Doust disciples and the same result achieved.

 

[saint.nick]

Mr brown's boys!

 

[Cagey Mac]

If I'm not mistaken Brown also wanted to bring Thurston to the club when everyone else thought he was too small for the game... Could be wrong though.

Wiki agrees with you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnathan_Thurston

Background
Of Indigenous Australian descent, Johnathan Thurston was born in Brisbane and began playing rugby league at a very young age for Souths Sunnybank RLFC in Brisbane's southside. Later during his youth he moved to Toowoomba where he attended St. Mary's College, playing rugby league for his school and the Toowoomba Rugby League's All Whites club.[7]
Although a stand-out player at school and club level at 18 years of age, none of the National Rugby League clubs were willing to sign the Queenslander, with many citing his small size as a problem.[8] According to Thurston's manager Sam Ayoub, a number of the clubs were not even willing to take him for free. Only St George Illawarra Dragons coach Nathan Brown was willing to sign him but because he was going to play for nothing. Ultimately Ayoub negotiated with the Bulldogs to sign him as he had promised Thurston's mother he would keep an eye on him, and Belmore (the Bulldogs' home ground) was closer to where he lived.

 

[St Georgio]

Bennett inherited a great team in 2009 which Browny built hence why the 3 good years followed. He had guys like Hunt, Creagh and Prior playing great footy. Bennett just put the finishing touches. As we have seen in Newcastle Bennett has not had the same success. People under estimate the work Browny did prior to Bennett coming in. Bennett more or less mentally prepared the team better.

Browny has much more experience now and I am pretty confident Saints won't be avoiding spoons when he comes in and be much more competitive. He gets the best out of players. All his mates are gone now so it will be a different enviroment for him. With Benji, Widdop, Dugan and Merrin I think the squad is built for Browny or Sheens to excel in.

If anything Bennett was responsible for losing Josh Morris as he thought he was only good enough as a winger where as Browny would have made more of an effort to keep Josh Morris and he would have been in the Centres as we speak instead went to the Dogs and killed it.

Agree..Brownie or Brian for me!

 

[barry]

Did brown have anything to do with the development of Sam burgess ? I remember when Souths signed burgess brown came out and said that Sam was the best forward he had ever seen.