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Price To be sacked Brown in

rainman44

Bench
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3,189
yes i want him back and i think it will happen next year, also i think he will bring a front rower with him. If we can sign say a Tim Brown and Brown to bring us another front rower and nail either Proctor or Sims we would come good.
 

pinkmoon

Juniors
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834
Some of you have short memories.

We'd be 1 from 6 or 7 to the start the season, injuries galore, turn up one week and not show up the next, Reece Simmons and John Wilshire in the top grade, tragic school boy errors, not to mention a complete lack of mental toughness.

The beginning of each year involved Brown's tenure as coach hanging by a thread (much the same as Price), before we would string a couple together and save his job. I agree with Benny V, to win a premiership you need luck, but we had a fully fit and firing side against the Tigers in 05, and we didn't get up for the game.

I don't mind Browny, but I think he has a few glaring deficiencies as a coach (only my opinion).
 

Smoove_Saint

Juniors
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853
Yes, but he did have the mates team back then.. despite it all, just need someone that can fire up the players up and PICK THE BEST PLAYERS AVAILABLE TO PLAY IN THEIR CORRECT POSITION!!
 

bottle

Coach
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14,126
Some of you have short memories.

We'd be 1 from 6 or 7 to the start the season, injuries galore, turn up one week and not show up the next, Reece Simmons and John Wilshire in the top grade, tragic school boy errors, not to mention a complete lack of mental toughness.

The beginning of each year involved Brown's tenure as coach hanging by a thread (much the same as Price), before we would string a couple together and save his job. I agree with Benny V, to win a premiership you need luck, but we had a fully fit and firing side against the Tigers in 05, and we didn't get up for the game.

I don't mind Browny, but I think he has a few glaring deficiencies as a coach (only my opinion).

Did have then.
Does he still?
I don't know. I don't follow the ESL enough to see how his teams perform.
 

twinkletoes

Juniors
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1,008
So we're a third of the way through season, the discussion about team performance is exactly the same as this time last year, the team is underperforming same as last year etc etc etc. Is the management going to waste the rest of this season and write it off so that this forum has something to talk about or will they have the balls to get rid of the coach mid season and appoint another coach ..whether that be temporary or longer term
 

bottle

Coach
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14,126
Money might dictate the decision twinkletoes.
If money is tight Price's sacking might just result in someone already on the payroll stepping up in the interim.
No one seems to be excited by that prospect as an alternative.
Screwed either way for 2014 it appears.
 

twinkletoes

Juniors
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If that's the case I'd prefer to see Hornby & Dean Young promoted from within the ranks...albeit their inexperience
 

tezza1961

Juniors
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11
Brown was great at bringing players through, and I think he had some great attributes, but results speak for themselves unfortunately. We underachieved, and we made some terrible school boy errors in those days; it took a great coach like Bennett to step in and rid us of the inconsistencies. I think it's a case of "been there, done that" and we move on in a new direction.

Personally, I think the whole joint needs a clean out. No Price, no McGregor, no Young...I probably would refrain from ousting Doust at this stage though...He proved with Bennett, that with the right coach in control, he can manage the job. We did win a premiership with him at the helm, and I think the financial position of the club has more to do with Leagues Club funding (or lack thereof) than any wrong doing on Doust's behalf. I am gutted that we no longer play all of our home matches at Kogarah and WIN, but I also think Douche's hands were tied.
I agree I think the whole place needs a clean out we were mediocre before Bennet he brought in his own staff and overrode young. As soon as he leaves the same old cronies were back with the same results.
 

BrissyRedV

Bench
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4,383
Do people not remember the anguish and frustration we all had when Brown was coach? The soft underbelly? He may have been away for a few years now and have more experience under his belt but I doubt he has all of a sudden developed into a super coach.

Shaun Wane or Tony Smith are the guys we should be chasing. Both experienced, successful and both their teams play a tough, expansive style of footy. The coaching talent available currently in Australia for this year or next is not great and we do not want to gamble on another rookie.
 
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jenninga

First Grade
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8,545
Some of you have short memories.

We'd be 1 from 6 or 7 to the start the season, injuries galore, turn up one week and not show up the next, Reece Simmons and John Wilshire in the top grade, tragic school boy errors, not to mention a complete lack of mental toughness.

The beginning of each year involved Brown's tenure as coach hanging by a thread (much the same as Price), before we would string a couple together and save his job. I agree with Benny V, to win a premiership you need luck, but we had a fully fit and firing side against the Tigers in 05, and we didn't get up for the game.

I don't mind Browny, but I think he has a few glaring deficiencies as a coach (only my opinion).

Still remember thinking the same when we were 24-0 down v Panthers in 2004 semi,what did Browny say to the team before they ran out.
But this is the thing,back then he was very young and green as coach,you would think he has matured now.
 

pinkmoon

Juniors
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I think a coach like Brian Smith is testament to my argument. There is undoubtedly some talent there, and he brings good young players through, whilst the team play an attractive style of football, but he just cannot put the whole package together; I think Brown is headed for the same fate unfortunately.
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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Still remember thinking the same when we were 24-0 down v Panthers in 2004 semi,what did Browny say to the team before they ran out.
But this is the thing,back then he was very young and green as coach,you would think he has matured now.

They ended up losing that game 31-30. Panthers scored a couple of dodgy tries. 1 when the Gower kicked teh ball and it was going out but the ref called it back for obstruction or something and Panthers ended up scoring the next play.

How many games have the Saints been down including last Sunday by heaps at half time only for them to come out and play the same crap. At least Browny is effective with his half time talks.
 

Dorsai

Juniors
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275
Unfortunately, or not after hearing the score, I was in Tasmania for the Canterbury match last week. From all I have been able to gather though I am glad I was no where near a TV.

I applaud the signing of Marshall only because I believe a competitive side needs a competitive halfback. Together with the 5/8 they direct the side and we now have Widdup and Marshall who should do that. Maybe Marshalls best days are behind him but the sheer experience and football brains, I am hoping, will direct this rable around a bit more and help Widdup out some. He has had no support to date.

I have said before that the pattern Price has the team working is not working. We have a good forward pack as long as we get up in defence. It does not matter how big a pack is if the defensive side is up fast and cut off the play before the big men get a chance to get a head of steam up. It worked well for the first few games this season. Then for whatever reason, they have sat back and waited for the attack to get a run up. Thats why we are getting flogged and laughed at. The forwards we have can do the job. They just need a coach.

So, to the coach. Price should have bee sacked weeks ago. I do not believe in revisitng the past and as much as I loved Brown, he is not the fit for this side. Nor is Brian Smith. And to stay on that track, wwe do not have any pretenders, hanger-ons, or up and coming possibles within our ranks to fill the gap.

We spend millions on good players. Dugan, Widdup, Marshall, etc. We have exceptional talent in Nightingale, Morris, Beale, Merrin, Cooper, etc. Why do we persist in the baffoons for coaches.

We paid top dollar for Bennett, who bought us the premiership we needed. Why do we not replace him with a top notch coach who knows what he is doing? If there is none here, try overseas. BUT, get someone who has runs on the board. Someone who knows what he is doing and can deliver.

Although I am not a fan, maybe Sheens might be a good option. Surely there are some decent coaches on the market that could be enticed to come to the Dragons? I would even settle for Meninga ffs.

Spend some dollars where it is needed now to try and salvage another disappointing year before we are all talking about the same thing in September.

Just my opinion.
 
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pinkmoon

Juniors
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They ended up losing that game 31-30. Panthers scored a couple of dodgy tries. 1 when the Gower kicked teh ball and it was going out but the ref called it back for obstruction or something and Panthers ended up scoring the next play.

How many games have the Saints been down including last Sunday by heaps at half time only for them to come out and play the same crap. At least Browny is effective with his half time talks.

forget about the talk before the match....

we were hopeless out of the blocks in those days...I remember the stress and nerves I used to feel wondering which Dragons team would walk out of the sheds. I remember Phil Gould referred to us as an "enigma", and frankly I don't fancy us being one again anytime soon.
 

slaters

Referee
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Some of you have short memories.

We'd be 1 from 6 or 7 to the start the season, injuries galore, turn up one week and not show up the next, Reece Simmons and John Wilshire in the top grade, tragic school boy errors, not to mention a complete lack of mental toughness.

The beginning of each year involved Brown's tenure as coach hanging by a thread (much the same as Price), before we would string a couple together and save his job. I agree with Benny V, to win a premiership you need luck, but we had a fully fit and firing side against the Tigers in 05, and we didn't get up for the game.

I don't mind Browny, but I think he has a few glaring deficiencies as a coach (only my opinion).

Interesting to note you offer no credit to the Tigers in 2005. For mine, 2006 was more of a tough poll as our form leading into the grand final qualifier was better than it was in 2005.
 

Lethal25

Juniors
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1,502
In these forums I've heard many references to Steve Price made, muppet, chinless etc. Just putting it out there if folks are comfortable calling him "minibus" (not quite a coach). It just seems a little nicer!
 

Godz Illa

Coach
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Some of you have short memories.

We'd be 1 from 6 or 7 to the start the season, injuries galore, turn up one week and not show up the next, Reece Simmons and John Wilshire in the top grade, tragic school boy errors, not to mention a complete lack of mental toughness.

The beginning of each year involved Brown's tenure as coach hanging by a thread (much the same as Price), before we would string a couple together and save his job. I agree with Benny V, to win a premiership you need luck, but we had a fully fit and firing side against the Tigers in 05, and we didn't get up for the game.

I don't mind Browny, but I think he has a few glaring deficiencies as a coach (only my opinion).
Not quite fully fit, we were missing a key player: our halfback Matt Head. We still could have won that game - BARRETT WAS NOT HELD FFS
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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Yeah very controversial game which Saints lost to a bad call. Since that game how many times have you seen polayers told to go back and play the ball insteod of being penalised?

Sad thing is if Saints won that they would have won the GF and Browny would still be coach. They would not have even considered sacking him if he brought in a GF in 2005.
 

Gazzaw

Juniors
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321
Brown had enough quality players to win 3 Grand Finals & couldn't get one. Not a fan at all.
He might still get a gig whilst Doust is there. Jobs for mates
That seems to be the way under this board/CEO
 

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