Put up or shut up, ASADA.

[carcharias]

you hope.

 

[coolumsharkie]

There was a good discussion on the AFL footy show last night, seems that even though that current AFL player has admitted taking the substance, unknowing that it was a 'banned' substance (dubiously under WADA's "catch all" clause) The player has a legal advantage and would win against any infraction undertaken by ASADA.

 

[Frailty]

There was a good discussion on the AFL footy show last night, seems that even though that current AFL player has admitted taking the substance, unknowing that it was a 'banned' substance (dubiously under WADA's "catch all" clause) The player has a legal advantage and would win against any infraction undertaken by ASADA.

Don't know how it is dubiously under the catch all clause.

The code clearly states that "Any pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the List and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (e.g drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued, designer drugs, veterinary medicines) is prohibited at all times."

It is not under the 'like' clause (which says 'other substances with similar chemical structure or similar biological effect(s)').

I'd also be interested to hear what this 'legal advantage' is...

 

[blacktip-reefy]

The leagal advantage is that the WADA have to prove it is performance enhancing or for what reason it is banned, especially if it is of benefit to humans.

 

[coolumsharkie]

Don't know how it is dubiously under the catch all clause.

The code clearly states that "Any pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the List and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (e.g drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued, designer drugs, veterinary medicines) is prohibited at all times."

It is not under the 'like' clause (which says 'other substances with similar chemical structure or similar biological effect(s)').

I'd also be interested to hear what this 'legal advantage' is...

Provide a link.

The whole pojnt is about who controls what. Got less to do with harm minimisation and more about who controls what comes onto the market.

Doping is a thing of the past.

The sporting body and individual athletes health interest is way down on the agenda, and if you dont believe me.. Wait till you see what sponsors will start to appear on the jerseys of certain clubs in the future.

;-)

 

[Frailty]

Provide a link.

The whole pojnt is about who controls what. Got less to do with harm minimisation and more about who controls what comes onto the market.

Doping is a thing of the past.

The sporting body and individual athletes health interest is way down on the agenda, and if you dont believe me.. Wait till you see what sponsors will start to appear on the jerseys of certain clubs in the future.

;-)

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/World-An...ions/International-Standards/Prohibited-List/

2012 and 2013 lists provided on the page.

 

[Frailty]

The leagal advantage is that the WADA have to prove it is performance enhancing or for what reason it is banned, especially if it is of benefit to humans.

Don't know if it is really a legal advantage in the case of Essendon when the code clearly states that any substance that isn't approved for human use and players would no doubt have that clause in their contracts (to abide by the WADA code).

This is why the whole equine use fiasco we had was a problem, but if it were really a wrong label (and not used) we should be clear.

Essendon should be getting ready for a whole lot of hurt, IMO.

 

[Card Shark]

Essendon should be getting ready for a whole lot of hurt, IMO.

Yes, I'm surprised they haven't had more heat applied by now....is the AFL holding the ASADA wolves at bay?

I'm still very worried about what might happen to us. Essendon will be our test case & things don't look good for them.

 

[THE MESSIAH !!!]

Yes, I'm surprised they haven't had more heat applied by now....is the AFL holding the ASADA wolves at bay?

I'm still very worried about what might happen to us. Essendon will be our test case & things don't look good for them.

There local member will look after them Bad Boy Billy espically now he gave Rudd his old job back, ASADA wont touch the bombers

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Don't know if it is really a legal advantage in the case of Essendon when the code clearly states that any substance that isn't approved for human use and players would no doubt have that clause in their contracts (to abide by the WADA code).

This is why the whole equine use fiasco we had was a problem, but if it were really a wrong label (and not used) we should be clear.

Essendon should be getting ready for a whole lot of hurt, IMO.

Who said its not approved somewhere in he world? ASADA? They don't perform results test. They only detect test.
its called an anti obesity supplement. If thats not for human use, who is it for? Walrus?

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Also, ASADA have again broken WADA rules by not serving an infraction notice on the essendon player immediately. In fact, as a statutory organisation, they have broken the law. he has admitted taking a substance he believes is banned. he named the substance. ASADA said its on the list. He should ahve received his infraction notice immediately. ASADA are endangering the lives of cancer sufferers World wide with the criminal negligence.
or
bettter question. Why havent they acted?
Becasue they know they are pharked, thats why.

 

[Frailty]

Who said its not approved somewhere in he world? ASADA? They don't perform results test. They only detect test.
its called an anti obesity supplement. If thats not for human use, who is it for? Walrus?

WADA have said its not approved.

http://playtrue.wada-ama.org/news/wada-statement-on-substance-aod-9604/

It may be designed for human use, but until it has gone through the rigors of clinical testing and approved for theraputic use, it is prohibited.

Also, ASADA have again broken WADA rules by not serving an infraction notice on the essendon player immediately. In fact, as a statutory organisation, they have broken the law. he has admitted taking a substance he believes is banned. he named the substance. ASADA said its on the list. He should ahve received his infraction notice immediately. ASADA are endangering the lives of cancer sufferers World wide with the criminal negligence.
or
bettter question. Why havent they acted?
Becasue they know they are pharked, thats why.

No one, not even you, knows why they are acting the way they are. ASADA are a bunch of incompetant fools, and anyone who has worked in government health over the last 10 years will have told you that prior to this issue.

 

[Frenzy.]

Also, ASADA have again broken WADA rules by not serving an infraction notice on the essendon player immediately. In fact, as a statutory organisation, they have broken the law. he has admitted taking a substance he believes is banned. he named the substance. ASADA said its on the list. He should ahve received his infraction notice immediately. ASADA are endangering the lives of cancer sufferers World wide with the criminal negligence.
or
bettter question. Why havent they acted?
Becasue they know they are pharked, thats why.

ASADA don't issue infraction notices to players. They advise the governing body who serves a notice and then does their own investigation before deciding if there is to be a penalty.

Perhaps it is the AFL stalling.

 

[coolumsharkie]

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/World-An...ions/International-Standards/Prohibited-List/

2012 and 2013 lists provided on the page.

Cheers Frailty.

 

[Weaponhead]

How soft is AFL. A bloke gets suspended for pinching and another bloke cries because the crowd boos. Weird.

 

[coolumsharkie]

Yeah the crying thing, wtf is with that? Grow a set ffs!

 

[Weaponhead]

Imagine what will happen if some of our players are rubbed out. Half the squad will be in tears.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

AOD 9604 the real facts. Banned since april 2013.
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2013/s3743644.htm

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Can I also add, that thsi drug ius proven to not be performance enhancing. So when Costa Rica announces it is safe for human use, after years & years of testing by the big companies, its game over for this stuff anyway.
Again I go back to the Kurt Foggo case where he was banned but then the product was unbanned so he was too.

 

[cronullashark]

http://m.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/mu...an-unloaded-gun-at-watson-20130628-2p2pw.html

Very interesting.