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Put up or shut up, ASADA.

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Surely

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In a criminal investigation you'd need a warrant to search someones phone, you don't with gestapo powers.
 

blacktip-reefy

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Exactly. If you get pulled over now talking on your phone the cops have the power to keep it. & in Starr chamber like powers, the cops do not need to prove you were using it. Their word against yours & yours doesnt count.

A police officer by the name of Sex Pistol in northern NSW had his hooker girl friends phone kept as evidence against him because he was doing some tunnel inspecting with it. On duty at the office. She was busted for hooking.

Long story short, he wasnt liked by the other cops so they charged with some offence & kept the phone & he was stood down. But, the only place the phot existed was on the phone. Now said hooker was a pretty smart cookie & had her phone set up with the kill switch so when they turned it on next to show other officers, icloud killed the phone. No photo anymore.

He will be another NSW cop who gets a multi million dollar retirement fund.
Good work if you can get it.
 

coolumsharkie

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Flanagan keeps his cool as anti-doping body turns blowtorch on Sharks players



'I'll get through it. My reputation in the footy community is stronger than that'
Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan has hit back at accusations he had knowledge of a systemic doping program at the club and is adamant he'll emerge from the doping investigations with his reputation intact.
The blowtorch remains on the Sharks, the only NRL club not cleared of systemic doping, as their players roll up for interviews with the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority. As the head coach for the period under the spotlight, during which sports scientist Stephen Dank was employed in 2011, Flanagan has come under scrutiny.
But he is adamant he has nothing to fear from the investigation.
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''I know, in the end, I'll come out of this fine,'' Flanagan said. ''I've been involved in this game since I was graded at the Dragons when I was 17. That was back in 1994, a long time before these things have been around football.''
Flanagan played with St George, Western Suburbs and Parramatta.
''This game weeds people out very quickly. I've got no problems. I know in the end, I guarantee you, that I will come out of this 100 per cent [clear]. I would never, ever put the players at risk or my club at risk.
''I just got my first-grade coaching gig [in 2011]. As if I am going to risk something I've wanted to achieve.
''It's a little bit of pain at the moment but I know I will come out with my reputation intact. I guarantee that.''
The allegations made against Flanagan are varied and serious, ranging from turning a blind eye to doping practices to being present when players were injected. Flanagan, who was reinstated after being stood down for the opening two rounds, didn't go into specifics but said he was unaware of a systemic use of illegal substances.
''I was filthy with my name being associated with it because that's just not me,'' he said. ''I can guarantee you as night follows day, I'll be right at the end. I've got no problems whatsoever there.''
Like Flanagan, Paul Gallen has become the public face of ASADA's investigations into rugby league. Flanagan said that the scrutiny was taking its toll on the Cronullacaptain.
''Terrible. We all say he's tough, tough physically and a great footballer but he's still got a heart. He's still got a family,'' Flanagan said.
''He's taken a fair few blows to that heart and his reputation.
''Gal is always team first but it does take a toll. Eventually he has to think of Paul Gallen. We all have to. I have to think about myself.
We need to think about our families. You can't keep taking knocks for the team.''
There are fears the very existence of the Shire club is under threat pending the result of ASADA's probe. However, Flanagan said it would never come to that.
''That's not going to happen,'' he said. ''The thing about this club - and take the Broncos out because no one knows how much they are spending as a private company - we spend the least on football of any other club. Our revenue is [ranked] team 15.
''We are team 15 in all of those areas, revenue, expenditure, staff. But we're in the top eight.
''We're equal fifth at the moment. If we were coming last year after year, they may have a reason to knock on our doors - if we weren't competitive.
''But we're competitive. We need to get competitive in areas off the field, in marketing a those things. We're taking some giant steps there.''


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...rks-players-20130809-2rn7y.html#ixzz2bX1CMhbi

Gotta say, this is a pretty good article from Flanno. Well in.
 

blacktip-reefy

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So you are saying any govt agency can request my phone to be confiscated and the data taken despite not having been involved in a criminal activity ?
Mate the cops can do that now on the side of the road. its a joke. If you dont give them your password to get into it so they can view your call logs.
They take it the car or even take it away.
 

spider

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Carry a second phone in the car - whilst they take your phone back to the car, fire bomb the phone contents back to factory settings via the find my phone app.

Would at least be good for a laugh.
 

Surely

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Mate the cops can do that now on the side of the road. its a joke. If you dont give them your password to get into it so they can view your call logs.
They take it the car or even take it away.


If your on the phone driving they can look at the call log to verify that, but thats because you have just broken the law talking on phone while driving and the call log is evidence.

if they pull me over for an rbt they cant take my phone and download all the data.
 

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This was in the main NRL Forum:

Bruno Cullen opens up on peptide probe at Cronulla Sharks

CRONULLA troubleshooter Bruno Cullen believes Paul Gallen and other NRL players were "hoodwinked" in a supplements regime and believes targeted stars must be cleared by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority.

In a revealing interview with The Sunday Mail, Cullen, the former Broncos chief executive, opened up about the ASADA peptides probe, the future of the embattled Sharks and why leading NRL players should escape punishment.

"It's all about getting the bad guys," Cullen said. "If any player gets suspended over this (drugs probe), it would be unfair.

"It was my job to get some good people in place at Cronulla and I feel I have done that.

"I am not death-riding the club. I wish Steve Noyce, Gy Wallace and the board every success going forward."

Cullen quit as Sharks CEO a fortnight ago, labelling his position "untenable" after the new Cronulla board offered apologies to four staffers sacked by the previous regime amid the ASADA doping probe.

Cullen had originally been appointed by the NRL in March to beef-up Cronulla's governance as ASADA ramped-up investigations into the club's supplements program.

After a sweeping probe now spanning six months, ASADA are under mounting pressure to deliver scalps.

Cullen refused to comment specifically on whether Cronulla players were injected with banned substances in 2011, but says they are innocent victims who deserve clemency.

THE PLAYERS

ABOUT 30 NRL stars have been issued with interview notices by ASADA. They include Manly duo Brett Stewart and Anthony Watmough, plus 14 Cronulla players headed by Gallen, John Morris, Ben Pomeroy, Wade Graham and Ben Ross.

Queensland-based NRL players Glenn Hall (Cowboys) and Titans duo Albert Kelly and Luke Douglas have also been summoned given their previous stints at either Manly or Cronulla.

There is no suggestion any of the group are guilty of doping. Sports scientist Stephen Dank has denied supplying players with banned substances and Cullen hopes the playing group are not hit with sanction.

"Personally, I hope the players are cleared because I believe they have been hoodwinked," he said.

"I'm not saying they have taken illegal substances but, if they have, they are the innocent parties in all of this.

"They have just done what they should as professional footballers and followed the advice of people who should have their best welfare at heart.

"I don't think one player would enter into an illegal-substance program thinking they were cheating.

"Gallen is in the same group. I believe they received poor advice and shouldn't be accountable for it."

"I think ASADA and WADA will stick rigidly to the rules," Cullen said. "What evidence they can gather to enforce the rules is the sticking point. If they can prove someone took something illegal, they probably have the right to hand out a suspension. I believe it might prove very difficult to prove player X took substance Y 100 per cent, I don't know if that will happen.

WHEN WILL IT END

"ASADA will run their own race and they won't be hurried or pressured," he said. "They were given new powers with a change in legislation which came into effect on August 1, so they will exhaust the new powers to gather more information. The best-case scenario is this ending just after the season finishes and everyone saying everything is fine, let's get on with 2014.

"I doubt that will happen. If players are subject to suspensions or orders then the legal battle begins again."

FUTURE OF CRONULLA

"The land development has the club fairly well positioned, but the elephant in the room is the drug issue and it can put them under extreme pressure," he said.

"The whole drugs issue has impacted them badly on commercial sales and sponsorships.

"The Sharks may have to go to the NRL and get some sort of advance or loan.

"The best-case scenario is that nothing happens, all is forgiven and sponsors jump back on board and very quickly the organisation re-establishes itself and can survive with the development that goes ahead over the next five to 10 years.

"The worst case scenario is very, very bad and Cronulla would need financial assistance in going cap in hand to the NRL, who they have upset I would suggest by reinstating the staff.

"There are real dangers but the Sutherland Shire is a loyal area and they will fight."

THE NEW BOARD

"It was untenable for me to stay if the CEO and the board can't work totally together," he said. "On this ASADA matter, they worked aside from me.

"In any event, I felt from a structural point of view I did what the NRL asked me to do so my time was effectively up.

"I couldn't work with the new board so I'm relaxed with that and I'm sure they are too. I'm not death-riding them ... I hope it works out for Cronulla."

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it shouldn't be any surprise they claim the coach was aware of alleged injections

the real surprise was when he was reinstated by the old board but not the fab 4

then again, previous investigations have shown their hand by sacking the 4

and the whole time the legal fees rack up quicker than charlie sheen at a porn set party
 

blacktip-reefy

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If only we could get people on our board who are straight shooters like Cullen, instead of this underhanded mob we have now.
Surely there is somebody in the Shire , as well as Sparkles, who can get on next tiem around.
 

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Did anyone see Dank on Channel 9 last night? Being interviewed by Weidler. He seemed VERY confident that all would be wellness with the Sharks and was even speculating legal action against ASADA from the SHARKS and Gallen.
He seemed quite cocky.
Judging by what we hear from the media, he is either delusional or the greatest flim flam man ever to be associated with sport........or he knows something that the press don't know.
 

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Did anyone see Dank on Channel 9 last night? Being interviewed by Weidler. He seemed VERY confident that all would be wellness with the Sharks and was even speculating legal action against ASADA from the SHARKS and Gallen.
He seemed quite cocky.
Judging by what we hear from the media, he is either delusional or the greatest flim flam man ever to be associated with sport........or he knows something that the press don't know.

I don't believe him because I have seen how he manipulates things.

As soon as I saw that 4 corners (or 1 of those current affair shows) report a few months back that had email transcripts between him & WADA, I can't trust him. Email discussion went something like this:

He asked was something on the banned list & they said it wasn't but check with ASADA as it may come under the yet to be approved for human use, S0 section of the code. He ignored that advice & replied "thanks, so it's not banned". They replied they didn't say that & check with ASADA.

He conveniently interpreted their response to suit himself. To me, their response was in no way approving the product for use. I couldn't trust him as far as I could kick him .

Edit: was 7.30 report - google Stephen Dank WADA. Drug was AOD 9604. His chat was with Irene Mazzoni, manager of research & prohibited listing.
 
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