Sneaking suspicion? Not based on Oates signing a one year deal because he's not happy with winger money?
I was unaware of that.
Sneaking suspicion? Not based on Oates signing a one year deal because he's not happy with winger money?
After thinking about it for a while, i fear Valentine Holmes more then i fear Slater. May sound crazy but hear me out. Queensland have a lot of older or out of form forwards. They also miss Matt scott immensly. They really struggled to get any go forward. This started from the kick. Blues were kicking straight to oates, pinning him down in his corner. What this did was eliminate oates from tabling a power hit up early in the set. Without oates it was up to the other members of the back 5 to get the go forward. O'neill was shithouse at this Boyd isn't good at this, while chambers and gagai are ok at it. This gave new south wales the forward advantage before the forwards were even involved. By comparison the blues back 5 done a great job of betting a roll on going. With this battle won it severely limited queenslands creative players, Boyd being one of them. Would Slater being able to succeed where Boyd failed? Boyd is no slouch. He has been great for Queensland and australia over the last 18 months. He has combined well with smith cronk and Thurston. I don't believe slater would have been anymore effective if he was in boyd's place on Wednesday. Qld will lose O'Neill, a huge bonus. But how he is replaced will be of interest. If slater comes in you can kick to oates and have slater, Boyd, gagai and chambers to start the roll on. If Holmes comes in you'd stick to kicking to oates but now Holmes, gagai, chambers and boyd will help start the roll on. If queensland get rolling Boyd will be back to his damaging best.
The perfect example is the Penrith game yesterday. Remove Moylan/Hiku from the back and replace with Mansour/Edwards we got massive starts to our sets. Slater/Holmes would be great at it for QLD and as a NSW supporter that combo worries me more.
I had Dylan in my SC yesterday didn't do that much, it was all Mansour. Slater isn't renowned for those type of carries anyway last time he was selected on the wing to do that he was smashed out of the series. Holmes is nowhere near mansours calibre for hard yardage and workload
One of our tries yesterday came from Dylan making a good run to about the 40 - 50 metre line which Mansour backed up off the quick ptb (something Dill was getting regularly) and down we rolled.
I don't think they are are 1 for 1 comparison in style but they will make a massive difference though to how QLD start their sets.
I'm glad you finally have a couple of games to look forward to mate, Newy would be a mindf$&@ of a team to support at the moment.
i actually think they've got the right wingers to do that already. boyd's problem is he doesn't get involved enough instead positioning his wingers for better field position to start a set, it probably more accentuates how badly qld's forwards where beaten in the middle that the yardage of their wingers was actually more middle field stuff. slater and holmes won't make any difference if their forwards get bashed like that again
If stats alone chose Queenslands forwards, this is who would play.
http://commentaryboxsports.com/australian/nrl/running-numbers-queensland-forwards.html
Those aren't pretty numbers for Dylan napa... His reputation for highlight hits masking his actual ability
I couldn't agree with you more. He might put on a big hit once in a while but he isn't anything special
a top 4 side with an ordinary forward pack? righto...Holmes is a better player than Oates who I think is in the side to supplement the pretty ordinary forward pack we've rolled out. Very much like the broncos at the moment I just don't see where the metres are coming from.
The problem with Darius is that despite showing he can be a strong returner of the footy, he seems to hate physical contact these days. Most of the time on the wing for qld the only time you'd see him was his usual flop over the line from 5 or 10m out.
a top 4 side with an ordinary forward pack? righto...