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Question on Peter V'landys

PVL ...good for RL or not?


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MugaB

Coach
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Tonight’s matches have been turned into a circus with this over-zealous “crackdown” on sin binning....

Who drove this directive??

Vlandys sits in the big chair.. it starts at the top,

who will have to answer to the circus the ARLC have made for themselves?

You bet your arse it ain’t Vlandys.. he’ll push Annesley out the door again “go and deal with that s**t will ya”...??
It feels there is a disconnect between the refs and annesley, not with the rule its self... i get everyone has a hard on for V'dog, but whats wrong with the rule? Don't hit folks in the head!
My issue isnt the rule change or the rule itself, its the way they enforced it..
Who the fück, rewinds play by 6 tackles to enforce a head high?
I get that it should go on report, but that slap was barely a reason to pull up 2 minutes of play and reset where it was.
The bunker refs are the problem, not Vlandys rule or whoever made it, i mean its simple stuff, no head highs, but common sence should prevail on that one, but for them to take that long to report it, as gerard sutton would have no idea how bad it was or how long back it happened, it seems that there is a few poor decisions in the bunker
 
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some11

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It feels there is a disconnect between the refs and annesley, not with the rule its self... i get everyone has a hard on for V'dog, but whats wrong with the rule? Don't hit folks in the head!
My issue isnt the rule change or the rule itself, its the way they enforced it..
Who the fück, rewinds play by 6 tackles to enforce a head high?
I get that it should go on report, but that slap was barely a reason to pull up 2 minutes of play and reset where it was.
The bunker refs are the problem, not Vlandys rule or whoever made it, i mean its simple stuff, no head highs, but common sence should prevail on that one, but for them to take that long to report it, as gerard sutton would have no idea how bad it was or how long back it happened, it seems that there is a few poor decisions in the bunker
10 minutes in the bin for every accidental head high is a fantastic idea.

10/10 keep sucking the man off.
 

AnonymousLurker

Juniors
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It feels there is a disconnect between the refs and annesley, not with the rule its self... i get everyone has a hard on for V'dog, but whats wrong with the rule? Don't hit folks in the head!
My issue isnt the rule change or the rule itself, its the way they enforced it..
Who the fück, rewinds play by 6 tackles to enforce a head high?
I get that it should go on report, but that slap was barely a reason to pull up 2 minutes of play and reset where it was.
The bunker refs are the problem, not Vlandys rule or whoever made it, i mean its simple stuff, no head highs, but common sence should prevail on that one, but for them to take that long to report it, as gerard sutton would have no idea how bad it was or how long back it happened, it seems that there is a few poor decisions in the bunker

But that’s the prob PVL gave the refs no leeway . They have to penalise them all.
 
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It feels there is a disconnect between the refs and annesley, not with the rule its self... i get everyone has a hard on for V'dog, but whats wrong with the rule? Don't hit folks in the head!
My issue isnt the rule change or the rule itself, its the way they enforced it..
Who the fück, rewinds play by 6 tackles to enforce a head high?
I get that it should go on report, but that slap was barely a reason to pull up 2 minutes of play and reset where it was.
The bunker refs are the problem, not Vlandys rule or whoever made it, i mean its simple stuff, no head highs, but common sence should prevail on that one, but for them to take that long to report it, as gerard sutton would have no idea how bad it was or how long back it happened, it seems that there is a few poor decisions in the bunker

It’s not that blokes shouldn’t hit others in the head...it’s the penalisation level that’s the issue, as someone suggested earlier/in another thread... think Danish...

The punishment dished out this round is completely over the top.

The referees aren’t the problem here, it’s the rule makers.

The one that really stood out to me was a penalty against the roosters on Anzac Day for “head contact” on a falling josh McGuire... probably the softest penalty I can recall... it wasn’t the softness itself that alarmed me it’s the mindset of a ref to feel as though that warrants a penalty like that... what has been drummed into him to blow the whistle..,,

it’s directives at the top. It’s the media pressure for referees to “act”. Calls for sin bins, send offs... all the while he’s got to referee a game on his own that’s possibly at the fastest pace it’s ever been..

The bunker had fallen to bits this season IMO. Personally I’m finally in agreeable with the likes of Gould that it should be gone...

But I can’t see it happening at all, for the NRL is in an arse covering exercise and as incompetent or intrusive as the bunker may be... it’ll be used as a “defence” as to why the NRL have done everything possible to protect players in the event that a current player down the track develops a brain issue and wants to go to court..
 

MugaB

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It’s not that blokes shouldn’t hit others in the head...it’s the penalisation level that’s the issue, as someone suggested earlier/in another thread... think Danish...

The punishment dished out this round is completely over the top.

The referees aren’t the problem here, it’s the rule makers.

The one that really stood out to me was a penalty against the roosters on Anzac Day for “head contact” on a falling josh McGuire... probably the softest penalty I can recall... it wasn’t the softness itself that alarmed me it’s the mindset of a ref to feel as though that warrants a penalty like that... what has been drummed into him to blow the whistle..,,

it’s directives at the top. It’s the media pressure for referees to “act”. Calls for sin bins, send offs... all the while he’s got to referee a game on his own that’s possibly at the fastest pace it’s ever been..

The bunker had fallen to bits this season IMO. Personally I’m finally in agreeable with the likes of Gould that it should be gone...

But I can’t see it happening at all, for the NRL is in an arse covering exercise and as incompetent or intrusive as the bunker may be... it’ll be used as a “defence” as to why the NRL have done everything possible to protect players in the event that a current player down the track develops a brain issue and wants to go to court..
Sympathetic to the refs, for having no common sence, the rules are there to stop head highs on teddy, he slips, might be accidental, but still high..
Penalty is sufficient, sin bin can be more a bunker reviewed on how severe it was, but again bunker are so enept, its a wonder that shìt gets done there at all, that call last night on pangai
 
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Sympathetic to the refs, for having no common sence, the rules are there to stop head highs on teddy, he slips, might be accidental, but still high..
Penalty is sufficient, sin bin can be more a bunker reviewed on how severe it was, but again bunker are so enept, its a wonder that shìt gets done there at all, that call last night on pangai

It’s easy to sit on a hill or a lounge to watch from a vantage point and criticise.... rather than running around at ground level for 80 minutes in amongst players running and shifting/kicking the ball, trying to administer the rules of the game on their own.. rules that are constantly being changed by the hierarchy..
 

Cactus

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Refs have way to much to contend with. Way to many rules and changes and technical fads of the day.

1) Back to Basics. Do the RL rule book equivalent of readin writin rithmetic
2) No more mid season crackdowns. Let the officials players & coaches know what they are going to be dealing with for the whole season
3) If rules are to be tweaked then they be kept to a minimum. I would content no more than one rule change per year, & it must be done in off season
4) Buck stops with ref boss. No more HQ interference. If Commish dont like whats going on on the field then have the nuts to sack the ref boss and get a better one. That should give them pause for thought.
5) Put a sock in Gould
 

jim_57

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The messiah has made the NRL his own personal circus. There'll be more to come, he seems like the type who needs constant attention and we're seeing the results with constant rule changes. AFL and Rugby Onion will be laughing their asses off.
 

Chief_Chujo

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After a great start it's not looking good for Pete this season. Magic round schmozzle is a shocker...
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Vee

First Grade
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Refs have way to much to contend with. Way to many rules and changes and technical fads of the day.

1) Back to Basics. Do the RL rule book equivalent of readin writin rithmetic
2) No more mid season crackdowns. Let the officials players & coaches know what they are going to be dealing with for the whole season
3) If rules are to be tweaked then they be kept to a minimum. I would content no more than one rule change per year, & it must be done in off season
4) Buck stops with ref boss. No more HQ interference. If Commish dont like whats going on on the field then have the nuts to sack the ref boss and get a better one. That should give them pause for thought.
5) Put a sock in Gould
I like point 5.
 

Maximus

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Leeway my arse, look at the holding on at zero tackle, leeway is all they do, the refs are either too lazy or not capable comprehending common sence

According to Vossy when Burr got sinbinned, they have been given no leeway on this. Any forceful contact with the head means auto sinbinning no matter the circumstances. You can't criticise the refs for lack of common sense when they've been told they can't use any.
 

MugaB

Coach
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Simple stuff, don't hit players in the head.

Refs at the moment are a joke tho, taking the piss with being super literal, no no step back a metre, play the ball exactly there.
 

souths_reborn

Juniors
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Being Chairman of the NRL is unlikely to be a high paid position. Like him or not, V'Landys is well connected with people in positions of power on "both sides of the aisle" as they say in politics. It is why he is so secure at RacingNSW as its CEO.

I'm prepared to wait and see regarding his stewardship in the job as Chairman of the ARLC.

If you want a Chair who has no sporting links but is good in their job and well connected, then you will have to pay for it as unless they are personally rich with an abiding love of the game, you won't find someone willing to do it for nothing.

As to the media questioning it, a few did, but remember News Ltd own most of the print journals in our capital cities, and those that aren't (e.g. Sydney Morning Herald, The Age) are now owned by Nine Entertainment who also own Channel 9.
I'm a bit staggered to see that 63% think that V'landys is doing a good job. I would be curious to know how they have reached that conclusion.

My question would be what benefit do these "sporting links" have to the game of rugby league? Remember, this is not organised crime. Ultimately, you want a chairman who is both logical and rational and Peter V'landys is neither of those. The other problem is that V'landys is so far up News Ltd's ass that you can see Rupert Murdoch's face sticking out of his mouth when he yawns. We need a chairman who is going to push New Ltd's influence out of the game and not the other way around.
 

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