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Question on Peter V'landys

PVL ...good for RL or not?


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Perth Red

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He’s getting such an easy ride, been a few stuff ups last couple of weeks but no blame sent his way, if it had been Greenberg still in charge they’d have crucified him!
 

Headless Chook

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Coming into a job at the beginning of a pandemic is an easy ride?
Imagine for a minute what the immediate and near future of the game would look like without the direction V’landy in these UNPRECEDENTED times. (Had to get the compulsory word of 2020 in)

They’d be dithering around clueless. At best we might be playing again in 2021 but probably at Lidcombe Oval for $peanuts.
 

taipan

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He’s getting such an easy ride, been a few stuff ups last couple of weeks but no blame sent his way, if it had been Greenberg still in charge they’d have crucified him!

He'e certainly getting News support, but conversely led by Skid Marks and Bandana Head he is getting screwed regularly by Nine and the SMH, and indeed channel 2s Offsider's.He's been called arrogant, ignorant of Govt requirements ,not caring about the public.

We'd get stuff ups in the NRL when there was no COVID-19 to harass us.Having Gallop,Moffat ,Greenberg or Vlad, who would you want firing negotiating bullets?
 

Mr Parramatta

Juniors
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Imagine for a minute what the immediate and near future of the game would look like without the direction V’landy in these UNPRECEDENTED times. (Had to get the compulsory word of 2020 in)

They’d be dithering around clueless. At best we might be playing again in 2021 but probably at Lidcombe Oval for $peanuts.
Spot on, cnts on here are a pack of whinges, who should stick to being fans, be grateful we still have clubs to support!!
 

Perth Red

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Not buying it. Time will tell.

so far Ch9 has got two of the things it wanted:
extension without going to market (so much for the hard won first and last rights battle)
and pay less money.
Only thing nrl has won is holding Ch9 to the contract and making them pay something for this year.

let’s see what comes out after Friday in regards to digital ownership, simucast and game times. Then we’ll judge if he is the games saviour the sycophants seem to believe.
 

LeagueXIII

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Agreed. I think V'landys got the game back not for the game so much but because News Ltd were desperate for it to restart otherwise they'd go bust.

Thus the gushing and major love in from News Ltd journos, it's been sickening.

The removal of Greenberg was orchestrated so this could happen as V'landys has a close relationship to News. Greenberg was gone with or without the pandemic.

Greenberg would have made Nine pay, and screwed them just as we all wanted however we now have their pathetic coverage until 2026. That will be 35 f'n years, FFS.
 

Perth Red

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The scoreboard so far:

ch9 want ceo gone - tick
Ch9 want extension to current deal so it doesn’t go to open market competition - tock
Ch9 want to pay less - tick (seemingly)
Ch9 publicly slate the way the games been run and Vlandys validates their criticism- tick
Ch9 want to not resume this year - fail

so far they’re ahead on the scoreboard
 

shear_joy9

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signing a 4-year extension while there is still 3-years to run on the current deal sounds as crazy as the anti-vaxxers.

why the urgency? The league is in one of it's weakest times and has minimal bargaining power currently. The season will restart in a few weeks and rate the f**k out of everything else available with nine and fox getting the bargain of the century.
 

Perth Red

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signing a 4-year extension while there is still 3-years to run on the current deal sounds as crazy as the anti-vaxxers.

why the urgency? The league is in one of it's weakest times and has minimal bargaining power currently. The season will restart in a few weeks and rate the f**k out of everything else available with nine and fox getting the bargain of the century.

makes you wonder why Vlandys wasted the games money flying him and abdo off to America doesn’t it?
 

Chook Norris

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signing a 4-year extension while there is still 3-years to run on the current deal sounds as crazy as the anti-vaxxers.

why the urgency? The league is in one of it's weakest times and has minimal bargaining power currently. The season will restart in a few weeks and rate the f**k out of everything else available with nine and fox getting the bargain of the century.

Do you genuinely believe that if we went to market in a few years that we'd be getting bigger bucks?

The consensus amongst media analysts is that the golden age of big $ sports rights is over. Locking in security in a time of great uncertainty (for the next few years) is not necessarily a bad move.

Waiting for ch9 and other FTA networks to deteriorate further financially would be a bad thing
 

Perth Red

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Do you genuinely believe that if we went to market in a few years that we'd be getting bigger bucks?

The consensus amongst media analysts is that the golden age of big $ sports rights is over. Locking in security in a time of great uncertainty (for the next few years) is not necessarily a bad move.

Waiting for ch9 and other FTA networks to deteriorate further financially would be a bad thing

well we’ve given up around $80mill tv revenue on the remaining contract we had guaranteed so you’d really hope it wasn’t going to be!
If it was, or even close to, the same as last deal we’ve royally fcked ourselves for seven years and over $200million going on the figures rumoured today.
 

shear_joy9

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Do you genuinely believe that if we went to market in a few years that we'd be getting bigger bucks?

The consensus amongst media analysts is that the golden age of big $ sports rights is over. Locking in security in a time of great uncertainty (for the next few years) is not necessarily a bad move.

Waiting for ch9 and other FTA networks to deteriorate further financially would be a bad thing

absolutely they would have gotten more. Being handcuffed to 9 for 7 more years is what pisses me off most.

Wouldn't surprise me though if 9 went bust in a few years and the nrl are forced to accept a greatly reduced offer to keep the weekly revenue coming in
 

Vee

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https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/nrl/no-worlds-left-to-conquer-why-pvl-could-soon-be-lost-to-league-20200510-p54rif.html

No worlds left to conquer? Why PVL could soon be lost to league

Roy Masters

ARLC chair Peter V’landys could walk away from rugby league if he inks a record TV deal with broadcasters and re-starts the competition on May 28, satisfied he has achieved a boyhood ambition.

Speaking to the Herald on Friday after talks with Channel Nine and Foxtel, ahead of what has subsequently reported to be heading towards a $2.3 billion, seven-year TV deal, V’landys said, “If I can get the game in a good financial position and started again, that will be my reward.

“I owe rugby league because it saved me from getting bashed up when I was a young migrant kid.

“I didn’t want to be ARLC chair. Being CEO is not on the cards. I’ve got no agendas. I don’t need to be chair or chief executive.

“Rugby league saved me as a migrant kid in Wollongong and if I can get the game up and going and in a good financial position, I will have repaid the debt.”

Should the NRL, in 18 days' time, be the only football competition in the English-speaking world playing matches, and tied to a long-term, lucrative TV deal in the midst of a global financial meltdown, V’landys is entitled to be nicknamed Zeus, the boss god – a nod to his Greek heritage.

Many refer to him as PVL, an apt abbreviation considering it sounds like a popular cement. He has been the glue which has kept the game together during this COVID-19 lockout.

He runs both Racing NSW and the NRL, keeping hours which would rival those of his Wollongong steelworker father, who did double shifts, and his mother, who worked in her sister-in-law’s cafe.

But should he leave the game, where he has been effectively executive chair for six months, it raises the question: who on the ARLC would replace him? And what do the commissioners do, anyway?

Wayne “Junior” Pearce is the front man for Project Apollo, the group dedicated to re-starting the NRL competition when the pandemic shut it down in March.

(Apollo, in Greek, mythology was the son of Zeus, described as a “beardless, youthful, athletic fellow” but not the sharpest god in the temple).

The ARLC is now down to six members, following the resignations of Amanda Laing, a senior executive with Foxtel and Mark Coyne, who failed to self-report an offence during six weeks of house arrest in Singapore.

In each month of the tenure of sacked NRL chief executive, Todd Greenberg, the ARLC was handed a financial report. If costs were escalating so rapidly, why didn’t the ARLC under PVL’s predecessor, Peter Beattie, haul them back?

Beattie’s predecessor, John Grant, appointed Greenberg and presumably was satisfied the programs run by Rugby League Central fulfilled expensive functions many of the NRL clubs could not.

Some of the commissioners ticked off on approximately 60 financial reports during Greenberg’s five-year term.

While V'landys did not ascend to the chair’s role until late last year, he presided over the December ARLC meeting which voted full bonuses to Greenberg and his executive team following “an outstanding financial result.”

V'landys defends his board, particularly businessman Gary Weiss, whom he describes as a “one of the best board members in public companies and a most under-rated quiet achiever.” He praises Beattie who recognised the code’s problems of minimal assets and rising costs by forming a sub committee of influential club chairs to address it.

“The board sought reduction in expenses and held board-only meetings where concerns about rising costs were expressed,” V'landys said.

“It is a very good board,” is V'landys' summary of the ARLC.

Yet, to many in the game, two CEOs and a chairman have been rolled by the very forces the Commission was built to resist – media chiefs and NRL clubs.

Abdo is currently acting as interim CEO but there is an expectation an executive search won’t attract a high-quality candidate, given that two CEOs have been forced out the door and the commission is perceived to be jelly-backed under a dominant chair. Furthermore, pressure from NRL clubs to lower head office salaries will not make for an enticing package.

“Based on the approaches I have had from high-quality candidates, I don’t think that will be problem,” V'landys says.

Yet there are those who insist that with V'landys making the key decisions and the capable Abdo consigned to a chief of staff role, influential NRL club chairs will plead with V'landys do the job.

He can’t become executive chair because the ARLC constitution requires almost unanimity from 16 clubs and two states to change the role.

Furthermore, V'landys has repeatedly stated he believes in correct corporate governance, involving separation of executive and board.

So, the only alternative would be for V'landys to surrender his position on the ARLC and be appointed CEO with a compliant chair and a dutiful board of directors.

V'landys rejects this scenario saying, “It’s not going to happen. I don’t need to be CEO or chair.”

Late last year, Racing NSW chair Russell Balding extended V'landys' term by three years and sought NSW Government changes to extend his own tenure past the eight year maximum required of board members.

It promoted the theory that V'landys would seek a similar power structure at the ARLC, with one observer saying, “Place a bet now - PVL will be making the speech at the NRL Christmas party, not as Chairman but as CEO.”

“It won’t happen,” V'landys repeats.

His words and public persona are at odds with someone accused of unbridled ambition, arrogance and conceit.

Yet, being a busy ARLC chair as well as Racing NSW boss does suggest a Zeus-like character over-estimating his capabilities and risking the wrath of the heavens, creating his own downfall.

Asked if he has heard of another term from Greek tragedy – hubris - he jokes, “Isn’t he the bloke who runs the local fruit shop?”

But he quickly corrects himself, recognising his answer is hubristic.

“Yeah, I know what you mean”, he concedes, hinting that an excessive workload won’t be a problem if his ARLC role is short term.
 

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