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R19 vs Broncos

Black Diamond

Black Diamond

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Pomoz said:
I had the great misfortune to watch it in QLD with a commentary team consisting entirely of ex Broncos. A commentary team that failed to mention whether Luai had left the field until 20 minutes later. Ennis, Hodges, Waters. It was a bad performance but the commentary was worse. There is plenty of vitriol flowing in the forum, but here are my thoughts on the game.
  1. Luai was a bad choice at fullback. He was directly responsible for two tries being scored by being in the wrong position. Bennett targeted the space where a fullback should have been and it paid off. Great coaching. Hook's call on Luai was a bad decision, but that's football, sometimes you make the wrong call.
  2. The complaints about Cleary were given a proper airing in that game. His attacking kick repertoire is basically a midfield bomb. The first time he did a grubber we score. He has to work on his kicking in the off season. His attacking kicking is below average for a halfback.
  3. Crichton's lack of pace was there for all to see. Bennett targeted him and it paid off. Great coaching.
  4. The ref's decided to penalise us for everything and overlook what the Broncos were doing. The penalty for Hetherington falling on a player with nobody holding him was disgraceful. and showed a complete lack of awareness by the ref. The pulling of CHN's hair for no penalty and the constant penalties without a sin bin, seem like home town reffing to me. However, it didn't effect the result, just the margin. We were gassed because they had 70% of the ball for the entire first half.
  5. It seems people on here don't understand Maloney. They cite missed tackles as evidence he is rubbish. They say he didn't try. What I saw was a player trying everything to lift his team. Sure, he gave away a penalty for a shoulder charge. He threw an intercept, but it was all done because he was trying too hard, not because he wasn't trying enough. He was also behind a forward pack that was dominated and owned. Even when we got a roll on we inevitably dropped the ball or gave away a penalty. He had a bad game but not because of lack of effort.
  6. Peachey looks great when he comes on when all the hard work is done and the other team is tired. We should continue to use him that way.
  7. CHN made a real positive impact of the bench, his aggression was needed.
  8. We need RCG's aggression back, he is the drummer of the band. The beat that ties the song together. He would have smashed Gillete into Caxton street when he was strutting around like a Peacock. RCG's value to the team is not in stats, it is in attitude.
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Great analysis. You are spot on with everything you say. Thanks for sharing.
 
franklin2323

franklin2323

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Pomoz said:
Realist, you should comply with your own name and be realistic. In case you hadn't noticed we are in the top 8, led by a bloke who played half the season without a proper halfback and half the roster in casualty at Nepean.
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2 of our 1st choice spine is gone for the season. The other 2 had origin mess around. We will be much better in Sept then we are now
 
OldPanther

OldPanther

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@Pomoz got me thinking with his talk of unfair criticism of Maloney and Luai being bad. What I've come to is that Luai isn't at fault either.

All reports had Maloney injured and only training late in the week. In that case Luai would have trained at 5/8 with Nathan at 7.

Is it any coincidence our best games since origin started have been Warriors(win) Sharks(good but beaten by a good team). They are the games we had a full week of training with a consistent team. I'm starting to wonder if reading the over positive comments on here set my expectations too high and we start from this week rather than last week due to better consistent preparation.
 
Whino

Whino

Bench
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Pomoz said:
I had the great misfortune to watch it in QLD with a commentary team consisting entirely of ex Broncos. A commentary team that failed to mention whether Luai had left the field until 20 minutes later. Ennis, Hodges, Waters. It was a bad performance but the commentary was worse. There is plenty of vitriol flowing in the forum, but here are my thoughts on the game.
  1. Luai was a bad choice at fullback. He was directly responsible for two tries being scored by being in the wrong position. Bennett targeted the space where a fullback should have been and it paid off. Great coaching. Hook's call on Luai was a bad decision, but that's football, sometimes you make the wrong call.
  2. The complaints about Cleary were given a proper airing in that game. His attacking kick repertoire is basically a midfield bomb. The first time he did a grubber we score. He has to work on his kicking in the off season. His attacking kicking is below average for a halfback.
  3. Crichton's lack of pace was there for all to see. Bennett targeted him and it paid off. Great coaching.
  4. The ref's decided to penalise us for everything and overlook what the Broncos were doing. The penalty for Hetherington falling on a player with nobody holding him was disgraceful. and showed a complete lack of awareness by the ref. The pulling of CHN's hair for no penalty and the constant penalties without a sin bin, seem like home town reffing to me. However, it didn't effect the result, just the margin. We were gassed because they had 70% of the ball for the entire first half.
  5. It seems people on here don't understand Maloney. They cite missed tackles as evidence he is rubbish. They say he didn't try. What I saw was a player trying everything to lift his team. Sure, he gave away a penalty for a shoulder charge. He threw an intercept, but it was all done because he was trying too hard, not because he wasn't trying enough. He was also behind a forward pack that was dominated and owned. Even when we got a roll on we inevitably dropped the ball or gave away a penalty. He had a bad game but not because of lack of effort.
  6. Peachey looks great when he comes on when all the hard work is done and the other team is tired. We should continue to use him that way.
  7. CHN made a real positive impact of the bench, his aggression was needed.
  8. We need RCG's aggression back, he is the drummer of the band. The beat that ties the song together. He would have smashed Gillete into Caxton street when he was strutting around like a Peacock. RCG's value to the team is not in stats, it is in attitude. (EDIT Doh, I mean't McGuire).
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Thank you I enjoy your insights.
I don't know how you could listen to the biased QLD commentary though. Yuck
 
Whino

Whino

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OldPanther said:
@Pomoz got me thinking with his talk of unfair criticism of Maloney and Luai being bad. What I've come to is that Luai isn't at fault either.

All reports had Maloney injured and only training late in the week. In that case Luai would have trained at 5/8 with Nathan at 7.

Is it any coincidence our best games since origin started have been Warriors(win) Sharks(good but beaten by a good team). They are the games we had a full week of training with a consistent team. I'm starting to wonder if reading the over positive comments on here set my expectations too high and we start from this week rather than last week due to better consistent preparation.
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Preparation goes a long way to success and Bennett like Bellamy is a master for pin pointing weaknesses.
 
franklin2323

franklin2323

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OldPanther said:
@Pomoz got me thinking with his talk of unfair criticism of Maloney and Luai being bad. What I've come to is that Luai isn't at fault either.

All reports had Maloney injured and only training late in the week. In that case Luai would have trained at 5/8 with Nathan at 7.

Is it any coincidence our best games since origin started have been Warriors(win) Sharks(good but beaten by a good team). They are the games we had a full week of training with a consistent team. I'm starting to wonder if reading the over positive comments on here set my expectations too high and we start from this week rather than last week due to better consistent preparation.
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20 odd missed tackles on our left side Kikau, Maloney, Blake.

2 kicks with Luai out of position.

2 Intercepts blew the score out.

Mostly was just no time together issues
 
umina panther

umina panther

Coach
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franklin2323 said:
20 odd missed tackles on our left side Kikau, Maloney, Blake.

2 kicks with Luai out of position.

2 Intercepts blew the score out.

Mostly was just no time together issues
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Some of that is fair but nothing can fix Maloney's defensive issues. Hopefully he can get his attack back up to where it was to cover it
 
Whino

Whino

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franklin2323 said:
Look at Manly being carved up now. If that was us. I'd worry our 50 was nothing like that just good tactics from Bennett
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I was hoping Manly would be saving their poor performance for next week.
They have crumbled a week too early.;)
 
TheFrog

TheFrog

Coach
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Pomoz said:
  • The complaints about Cleary were given a proper airing in that game. His attacking kick repertoire is basically a midfield bomb. The first time he did a grubber we score. He has to work on his kicking in the off season. His attacking kicking is below average for a halfback.
  • Crichton's lack of pace was there for all to see. Bennett targeted him and it paid off. Great coaching.
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I suspect Cleary is leaving the attacking kicks to Maloney and just doing bombs.

I have little doubt Bennett would have picked up issues with Crichton on the wing and targeted him, but I don't know how he would have picked up Luai being out of position at fullback. He doesn't even play there in reserves. An educated guess maybe, but I'd give Milford credit for that. Not that it matters. Milford's kicking game cut us apart especially in the first half. They did give Luai a workover in defence once or twice, which looked like a plan.
 
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