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R22 | Knights 22-38 Roosters @ Hunter | Sun 4pm

Frederick

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Check mate!
 

1qaz

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I already said there were other terrible defenders in the team, but the difference is the others at the very least try to make tackles which Gagai doesn't. Wont put his body on the line. Will go for the low percentage intercept because he appears too scared to even try and tackle his opposite. When he actually does attempt to touch someone it's just arm grabbing which I'm sure he knows won't stop anyone. Again, not putting his body on the line. You mention guys like Roberts and Gidley but at least they try and make a proper tackle even if they come up short. That's the difference with Gagai.

As a unit we're making bad reads in defence at the moment but even in games in the past when we've defended well Dane has been the liability. Coaches target him because they know he won't even make a serious attempt at tackling.

Youre wrong like usual.
His biggest issue in defense is he's get stepped back on the inside too easily.
The majority of his miss tackles are are result of players having footwork brushing him aside.
He tackles ok when a player runs a straight line and he goes low.
Even from today's game JWH ran at him, he put his body on the line.
You missed his efforts on Woods during origin 3?
Go back watch some Knights game. He has always put his body on the line against some of the bigger blokes Taylor, T Rex, Hoffman
 

Noname36

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Youre wrong like usual.
His biggest issue in defense is he's get stepped back on the inside too easily.
The majority of his miss tackles are are result of players having footwork brushing him aside.
He tackles ok when a player runs a straight line and he goes low.
Even from today's game JWH ran at him, he put his body on the line.
You missed his efforts on Woods during origin 3?
Go back watch some Knights game. He has always put his body on the line against some of the bigger blokes Taylor, T Rex, Hoffman

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Haffa

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Youre wrong like usual.
His biggest issue in defense is he's get stepped back on the inside too easily.
The majority of his miss tackles are are result of players having footwork brushing him aside.
He tackles ok when a player runs a straight line and he goes low.
Even from today's game JWH ran at him, he put his body on the line.
You missed his efforts on Woods during origin 3?
Go back watch some Knights game. He has always put his body on the line against some of the bigger blokes Taylor, T Rex, Hoffman


If players run a straight line what choice does he have but to throw his body at them? What a ridiculous argument.
 

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And what?
If you actually watch the footage, the biggest culprit in this try is Scott.
He's too slow to get across and slide mark up on Hastings leaving Randell in nowheres land, Dane and Uate jamming in.

Johns was pretty damning of that defence from Gagai yesterday. His biggest gripe was that Gagai rushed up in defence on RTS before Hastings had even made a decision or passed the ball- any half decent playmaker would have been able to set up a try from that position.
 

Joker's Wild

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And what?
If you actually watch the footage, the biggest culprit in this try is Scott.
He's too slow to get across and slide mark up on Hastings leaving Randell in nowheres land, Dane and Uate jamming in.

lol are you seriously blaming Scott for that?

Stop, just stop
 

Rod

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Randall clearly had RTS covered (in theory of course, not saying RTS couldn't beat Randall 1-on-1), it was Gagai's fault for the poor read.

Edit: Uate actually did well to rush up when Gagai did, but obviously his tackle attempt was terrible.
 
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Dane Gagai is a woeful defender and if Wayne comes calling I strongly suggest we let him go. He is great in attack but we need to stop pretending he is a first grade quality defender. He is not. He is targeted. I wonder what the stats for tries down our right side are Compared to the left. 1qaz stop embarrassing yourself. You can give No Name the 1 grand now.
 

Burwood

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What is going on in the background that allows first grade players to have 2-3 seasons and not iron out these weaknesses? Gagai and Uate have had numerous off seasons to work out these problems, but they are either very slow learners, or more likely, not being properly supported by the coaching staff. This isn't like a player dropping bombs where he can stay back after training and work on it, this is something that is wrong with the system. These players are working as 13 individuals on the field- there is no cohesion or communication.
 

1qaz

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Smith had Napa covered.
This is where Scott should be sliding forcing Randell, Dane and Uate to slide as well but instead Scott is caught up with Napa.
Now it's too late for Randell, Dane and Uate to slide as a result of Scott's laziness and poor read.
In one frame Scott actually just stands there.
And to show you how lazy Scott was on. if you look at the last frame, Smith actually beats him over to Tupou..
 

Noname36

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I think Uate and Gagai have different issues. Uate can't read the game defensively to save himself and he also falls off tackles which is concerning given his size. Gagai I think is better at reading the game but he won't put his body on the line.

One of the biggest issues at the club is that they prioritise attacking skills over defence. It doesn't matter if you can't defend at the Knights. If you can step someone in attack you get a massive upgrade regardless of how many points you let in.

Both would have been dropped a long time ago at other clubs.
 

Apey

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That Nathan Ross attempted catch then Gidley getting beaten by Evans is just vintage us. I did the dirty and took Roosters line at +17. At least that's a positive from this buttf**king.

Lol did they f**k this up you?
 

Frederick

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Smith had Napa covered.
This is where Scott should be sliding forcing Randell, Dane and Uate to slide as well but instead Scott is caught up with Napa.
Now it's too late for Randell, Dane and Uate to slide as a result of Scott's laziness and poor read.
In one frame Scott actually just stands there.
And to show you how lazy Scott was on. if you look at the last frame, Smith actually beats him over to Tupou..

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1qaz

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Randall clearly had RTS covered (in theory of course, not saying RTS couldn't beat Randall 1-on-1), it was Gagai's fault for the poor read.

Edit: Uate actually did well to rush up when Gagai did, but obviously his tackle attempt was terrible.

Randell did not have RTS covered.
Randell was concern with Hastings on his inside as Scott was too slow to get across.
He also had Cordner to contend with on his right shoulder with RTS sweeping at the back.
 

1qaz

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Dane Gagai is a woeful defender and if Wayne comes calling I strongly suggest we let him go. He is great in attack but we need to stop pretending he is a first grade quality defender. He is not. He is targeted. I wonder what the stats for tries down our right side are Compared to the left. 1qaz stop embarrassing yourself. You can give No Name the 1 grand now.

Delete your account seriously. I don't mind people having a different opinion but fmd you're the biggest sheep on here.
 

Frederick

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Yeah, showstopper, you better delete your account because you're hurting 1qaz's feelings! How dare you continually criticize Dane Gagai, who is clearly flawless and the best player in the history of all sport
 

1qaz

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Yeah, showstopper, you better delete your account because you're hurting 1qaz's feelings! How dare you continually criticize Dane Gagai, who is clearly flawless and the best player in the history of all sport

He can criticise Dane all he wants but he never has an opinion of his own and by far the biggest dribbler on the Knights forum.
He's a sheep.
 

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