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Ramifications of the Kalyn Ponga deal

Desert Qlder

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Kalyn Ponga’s father claims North Queensland Cowboys neglecting young gun’s welfare

THE father of teenage whiz-kid Kalyn Ponga claims the Cowboys are neglecting his son’s welfare and is calling on the club to do the right thing and release him to Newcastle.

One of the hottest young properties in the game, Ponga is under contract to North Queensland next season but has signed a four-year deal with the Knights from 2018.

The family is holding out hope the Cowboys will relent and allow Ponga to link with the NRL cellar-dwellers a season early.

Andre Ponga says his son is paying the price for turning his back on the club but claims the Cowboys only have themselves to blame.

“Things went pear-shaped when we didn’t accept an offer from the Cowboys to sign a two-year contract extension back in April,” he told The Sunday Telegraph.

“Kalyn didn’t have a manager at the time and we as a family weren’t going to make a decision on his long-term future until Kalyn had a manager in place.

“Pretty much the relationship went sour with the club from that point on.”

A year out of high school and having just turned 18, Kalyn was at university part-time, studying to be a PE teacher.

But Ponga senior said there was no encouragement from Cowboys management for anything other than football.

“They didn’t allow him to do virtually anything outside of playing footy,” he said.

“He loves footy so applying himself to that comes easy. But education is hard for Kalyn and he has worked hard in the past but they just made it more difficult.

“As a family, we have always preached that footy is always the B option and education the A option.

“The Cowboys knew that was a priority for us when he signed in 2013.

“But since rejecting April’s offer, they don’t want to know about it and it’s left Kalyn disillusioned because they are not offering any encouragement to him.

“Unfortunately, a lot of the off-field stuff that was promised, that was going to help him develop as a person off the field, has not been adhered to at the Cowboys.”

Ponga senior claimed Kalyn seriously considered switching codes because of the off-field struggles.

There were opportunities at the Queensland Reds and Brisbane Lions and he thought long and hard about a move to the AFL before being “blown away” by the welfare set-up and opportunities at the Knights.

“Through all of this, it has been a priority for Kalyn to stay humble and keep to our values because as a family, that’s what is important to us,” Ponga senior said.

“The Knights actually gave us faith that there is good in the game. I can’t emphasise that more.

“They weren’t his first pick. Going down to Newcastle for that weekend, the club wasn’t even on his radar.

“But within an hour of being there, we had met the CEO, the coach, recruiter, general manager, club ambassador and welfare officer and were just blown away by how genuine they all are and how comfortable it all felt.

“He can see the growth possibilities of the club and the opportunities for himself personally on and off the field.

“We went over their system and it excited us and coming from what we have come from over the past seven or eight months, they should be very proud of their system.”

Despite suggestions a deal with the Knights was done several weeks ago, Kalyn only made his final decision to sign last weekend.

“We were fearful of his welfare. He was worried how he would be treated by the Cowboys with a year to go on his contract if he made it official he was going elsewhere,” Ponga senior said.

“In the end though, we just realised it was something Kalyn would have to deal with.”

As for an early release, the Ponga family is not holding out much hope. “He’s only 18 but his welfare hasn’t been a priority and we’ve had to accept that,” he said. If they don’t release him, we feel it will be out of spite.

“But deep down, we always knew they would dig their heels in because of how they have been towards him over the past seven months.

“He has been resilient and professional and we have supported him strongly. The family is prepared to do the same for him over the next 12 months if he is forced to stay on.

“But it excites the family that the Knights, being the No. 1 club for welfare in 2016 is a good balance that will help Kalyn evolve on and off the field.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e/news-story/9ad0accefd6879359d8936cd1e29b532
 

Nice Beaver

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I would not have the first clue about what sort of bloke Kayln is, or his dad.

But to be honest, I don't see a hell of a lot wrong with what he has said there. He's the kids dad - why would he not jump to his defence? And who knows besides them how the club has treated him?
 

NrlVader

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Uni of Newcastle has arguably the best PE course in Australia. That together with the Knights accomodation for his studies sealed the deal was the word I heard.
 

Shorty

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Cowboys fans on LU are doing a great job at biting their tongues and/or being good sports for the most part, although it's clear and obvious there is salt. A quick glance at the recruitment thread on the Cowboys Stampede reveals the true feelings up north, though. The butthurt is very intense. Props to butch for being a voice of reason over there. Many of your compatriots willing to throw the kid under the bus or just bitch about our club in frustration.

To be honest I have no love for the Cowboys, the way they have cried and whinged in the past about things like the Snowden "shoulder charge" and NSW conspiracies makes it hard for me to feel anything other than schadenfreude.
Really not that bothered about it.

I'm disappointed Ponga didn't stay but that's what happens when a club is quality and can't keep everyone.
Newcastle pretty much had to roll the dice with Ponga and so I understand the big money thrown at him after only 2 games.

It seems a little bit like Knight fans need Cows fans to be butthurt for them to feel like the Ponga signing is a good one lol.
 

elyod138

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I would not have the first clue about what sort of bloke Kayln is, or his dad.

But to be honest, I don't see a hell of a lot wrong with what he has said there. He's the kids dad - why would he not jump to his defence? And who knows besides them how the club has treated him?
It's a complete fabrication to try to force the Cowboys to release him so he can get more money out of his son next year. Andre has a habit of spewing BS in the media, he has said stupid shit a few times which potentially harmed KP's standing with his club. KP has had to respond in the media that he doesn't have the same opinions as his dad in the past. On the Cowboys forum there are insiders who have said they're great at the off field management of the young players (including the father of another one of our young stars who signed elsewhere). The Cowboys treated KP extremely well last year when he almost died and missed months of footy due to a brain infection, it's a kick in the teeth for Andre to come out and spew this bs.
 
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butchmcdick

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Uni of Newcastle has arguably the best PE course in Australia. That together with the Knights accomodation for his studies sealed the deal was the word I heard.

Yes

It's always been Kalyn's dream to be a PE teacher

I mean the Cowboys giving an 18 yo $3000 a week and a contract in the NRL squad (not the 20's ) should have done more to let Kayln focus on his studies

Sure we stuck by him during his injuries, patchy early season form and the egg throwing incident as well as giving him his debut in our biggest match of the season but we didn't support him at all off the paddock.

Good thing the Knights care about player welfare

Just ask Joeseph Tapine :)
 

butchmcdick

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Did he throw eggs at cars too ?

Look seriously clubs don't pay players in the top squad to be PE teachers

It's great Kaylyn has an eye on life after footy

Not many players seem to

On the flip side though I would be interested to see what more his dad seems to think we should have done to support him
 

macavity

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Did he throw eggs at cars too ?

Look seriously clubs don't pay players in the top squad to be PE teachers

It's great Kaylyn has an eye on life after footy

Not many players seem to

On the flip side though I would be interested to see what more his dad seems to think we should have done to support him

Can't comment on the Cows, only the Knights and Tapine. The club bent over backwards for him and his family to the n-th degree hence expected some loyalty in return.
 

Spot On

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Yes

It's always been Kalyn's dream to be a PE teacher

I mean the Cowboys giving an 18 yo $3000 a week and a contract in the NRL squad (not the 20's ) should have done more to let Kayln focus on his studies

Sure we stuck by him during his injuries, patchy early season form and the egg throwing incident as well as giving him his debut in our biggest match of the season but we didn't support him at all off the paddock.

Good thing the Knights care about player welfare

Just ask Joeseph Tapine :)

You must be referring to the Knights support of Tapine after he broke a blokes jaw when on the drink.

The assault charges were dropped as the magistrate found prosecutors could not prove he was not acting in self defence even though the magistrate said he had given unconvincing evidence.

Maybe Tapine has little regard for the welfare of others?

As for Ponga, completing a University degree is just as important as anything else he'll ever do. You only need to read and listen to the life experiences of other NRL players who struggle after life as an NRL player is over. The kid should be applauded for having some desire and foresight to have a career after footy. His footy club should support him as much as is possible, just as Tapine was supported in his hour of need.
 
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davi

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Who is calling for Kalyn Ponga to be in the Queensland emerging squad anyway? He has played two games of NRL football and suddenly he should get recognition because signed a massive contract. What a joke.


"KEVIN Walters has given Kalyn Ponga the reality check which, the way these things work out in modern sport, an 18-year-old millionaire-to-be needs to have.

Walters last week elected to leave Ponga on a low flame as a prospect for Queensland, declining to include him in the Maroons Emerging Origin squad.

A coach with an eye solely on the win-loss column would have thrown Ponga a bait to join the Queensland fold by rejecting — while still a teenager — New Zealand as a future representative option.

From his 20 games of success and struggle for the Maroons, and his long apprenticeship in coaching, Walters knows that a Queensland Emerging squad berth is an important step on the path to truly understanding how the Maroons operate.

It remains to be seen if Ponga takes up a possible opportunity to join a Queensland under-20s league squad which will also convene next month."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...d/news-story/9b52b538437a10b06e8b38b6d941bce0
 

thorson1987

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It's a complete fabrication to try to force the Cowboys to release him so he can get more money out of his son next year. Andre has a habit of spewing BS in the media, he has said stupid shit a few times which potentially harmed KP's standing with his club. KP has had to respond in the media that he doesn't have the same opinions as his dad in the past. On the Cowboys forum there are insiders who have said they're great at the off field management of the young players (including the father of another one of our young stars who signed elsewhere). The Cowboys treated KP extremely well last year when he almost died and missed months of footy due to a brain infection, it's a kick in the teeth for Andre to come out and spew this bs.

Sounds like Lichaas dad when he signed with Canterbury.
 

Canard

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Was Ponga even living in QLD at age 13? I thought he was back in NZ at around that time.

I read that he moved here when he was quite young and then moved back for a short period. Something like 16 of his 19 years have been spent in Oz. So he would be eligible based on that alone, can't say for a fact though.
 

Noname36

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Look seriously clubs don't pay players in the top squad to be PE teachers

No but when a club has recently seen one of its brighter prospects lose his ability to walk, let alone play professionally, they probably want to support their players' back up plans pretty well. Playing footy isn't always the most important thing.

Good on the kid for realising making it in the NRL is tough and there's a chance he won't and wanting a plan B.

As for your crack about the Knights care about Tapine and his welfare: the Knights supported him through an assault charge, one where most people in the know thought he would end up in prison. The club also helped his family out big time when they were struggling. The kid himself said he couldn't wait to re-sign with the club because he wanted to repay them for what they did for him and his family. Didn't happen - and I don't think telling him he'd be playing the year in reserve grade (yet still releasing him as to not really punish him) was really harming his welfare too much considering what they'd already done for him.

Considering the Knights usually sack players as soon as they get into trouble Tapine if anything was given preferential treatment. The CM can say whatever they want about the Knights and their treatment of Tapine and they'll have some idiots lapping it up, but it doesn't really change how much support that kid actually had and frankly comparing the situation to an 18 year old throwing some eggs at a car is hilarious.
 

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