Rava being rubbed out

[Willow]

I thought this 'crackdown' was driven by the product image. That is, it had less to do with player welfare. If it was truly about players getting hurt, then why aren't we seeing the MRC citing dozens of incidents every week?

But I find myself in a conundrum. If it is about image, then why pull out the Ravalawa tackle? It was one the safest tackles you can do, nowhere near the head. Did someone call it dangerous at the time? Was it placed on report? It didn't even make the highlights video.

The V'landys edict about player safety has either lost it's way or is complete bullshit.

Moreover, the edict is actually damaging the game's image. It has actually become counter-productive to what I believe was it's original purpose.

 

[TruSaint]

I thought this 'crackdown' was driven by the product image. That is, it had less to do with player welfare. If it was truly about players getting hurt, then why aren't we seeing the MRC citing dozens of incidents every week?

But I find myself in a conundrum. If it is about image, then why pull out the Ravalawa tackle? It was one the safest tackles you can do, nowhere near the head. Did someone call it dangerous at the time? Was it placed on report? It didn't even make the highlights video.

The V'landys edict about player safety has either lost it's way or is complete bullshit.

Moreover, the edict is actually damaging the game's image. It has actually become counter-productive to what I believe was it's original purpose.

PVL is slowly chipping away at the very fabric of the game.

To your point, during the game no one called that anything other than a "great tackle' or words to that effect.

The hypocricy is now beyond debate.

Have watched that tackle at slo-mo, frame by frame and in real time.

I can say confidently, THAT tackle on Sunday at SOO will be lauded by all and sundry.

 

[KiamaSaint]

2 members of the intellectual gifted judiciary panel, what happened to the 3rd member ? Well he ate the prepared verdict therefore is not in the shot .View attachment 49853

Wrong. Those pictured are horses, the judiciary panel members are in fact asses.

 

[Gareth67]

Wrong. Those pictured are horses, the judiciary panel members are in fact asses.

I certainly can not argue about that Kiama .

 

[blacksafake]

I thought this 'crackdown' was driven by the product image. That is, it had less to do with player welfare. If it was truly about players getting hurt, then why aren't we seeing the MRC citing dozens of incidents every week?

But I find myself in a conundrum. If it is about image, then why pull out the Ravalawa tackle? It was one the safest tackles you can do, nowhere near the head. Did someone call it dangerous at the time? Was it placed on report? It didn't even make the highlights video.

The V'landys edict about player safety has either lost it's way or is complete bullshit.

Moreover, the edict is actually damaging the game's image. It has actually become counter-productive to what I believe was it's original purpose.

Not one person on that field had an issue with the tackle. The touchie was 5 metres away & Whitehead who’s not shy of whinging or retaliating had no problem as well, Only the MRC, why

 

[boardlumps62]

Don't think it was a Raider who complained the Bunker must have been looking at the tackle. How long did it take for the referee to put it on report. Two minutes or longer?

 

[Ghostface Killah]

Absolute f**king bullshit decision.

Garlick should stick to selling pies. Linder and Puletua should f**k off into obscurity.

McGrath should stick to conveyancing transactions and f**king Australia Post will kits.

PVL needs to get the f**k away from the NRL and stick to the “sport of kings”.

Wankers.

 

[Willow]

Don't think it was a Raider who complained the Bunker must have been looking at the tackle. How long did it take for the referee to put it on report. Two minutes or longer?

I just had a quick look at the replay and you're right, it was placed on report a minute or two later. It was into the next set immediately after a separate head high tackle. Easy to miss. That explains why the MRC had a look at it. But it doesn't explain why they thought it warranted a charge.

 

[Walpole]

The biggest problem is that the judiciary made their decision in 5 minutes, indicating there was absolutely no consideration or discussion of the points Ravalawa's lawyer might have made. You'd think even three intellectual giants like the judiciary members in this case would take longer to fully digest the defence's argument and reach a conclusion. The outcome was clearly pre-ordained and Ravalawa even appearing was just a nuisance to them. This is what the Dragons executive should be pursuing, whether there was a fair hearing or even a hearing at all. But they won't and we'll go back into our box with the Tigers, Bulldogs etc. and the other clubs who have no say in how things work.

 

[St Tangles]

The biggest problem is that the judiciary made their decision in 5 minutes, indicating there was absolutely no consideration or discussion of the points Ravalawa's lawyer might have made. You'd think even three intellectual giants like the judiciary members in this case would take longer to fully digest the defence's argument and reach a conclusion. The outcome was clearly pre-ordained and Ravalawa even appearing was just a nuisance to them. This is what the Dragons executive should be pursuing, whether there was a fair hearing or even a hearing at all. But they won't and we'll go back into our box with the Tigers, Bulldogs etc. and the other clubs who have no say in how things work.

They wanted to get out of of there quick to get a few free beers curtisy of the NRL for a job well done

 

[rasaint]

Hi All, look I just had to post now. I was just now browsing the news on Nine.com. Then there was a SOO article with accompanying video of Cameron Murray practicing tackling head on Liam Martin who is holding the pad in front of him. Check it out. Murray gets low drives in with the broad neck / shoulder area and THEREAFTER wraps his arms around the legs. In other words same style as Rava.

You can’t make this stuff up! I hope somehow that the club is in assertive contact with the NRL about a review of this unjust decision.

 

[boardlumps62]

Obviously the NRL Judiciary have short memories on how execute the Axe Tackle so hope this proves a point that is: shoulder first then wrap the arms. Not every tackle can be perfect but Ravalawa's intent is to stop the opposition not hit him in the head. Remember the Axe love to get some video of his tackling in game and in practice. Hope this works.

 

[Dragon David]

Obviously the NRL Judiciary have short memories on how execute the Axe Tackle so hope this proves a point that is: shoulder first then wrap the arms. Not every tackle can be perfect but Ravalawa's intent is to stop the opposition not hit him in the head. Remember the Axe love to get some video of his tackling in game and in practice. Hope this works.

Amazing isn't it. Here we have legendary players in this video clip explaining how to execute a front on tackle. Leading with the shoulder and then wrapping the arms around the attacker. I've not been able to see the nine.com video showing Cameron Murray's practise tackle but as Rasaint has explained it, it again typifies how they train to tackle shoulder first, then arms.

How then is Rava's tackle any different to what these players are telling people what to do?

Did Andrew Webster do his thing and publish anything on how the Dragons have copped it lately?

 

[rasaint]

Hi All again had to post on this Thread again. Dragon David noted he couldn’t see the practice front on tackle of Cameron Murray on Liam Martin I saw on nine.com. Well I saw it under a story entitled ‘hottest questions for origin 11 answered. Then associated footage of Cam Murray practice is still there under the heading starting ‘ice cold fittler’

 

[Willow]

Obviously the NRL Judiciary have short memories on how execute the Axe Tackle so hope this proves a point that is: shoulder first then wrap the arms. Not every tackle can be perfect but Ravalawa's intent is to stop the opposition not hit him in the head. Remember the Axe love to get some video of his tackling in game and in practice. Hope this works.

Exactly the same as Ravalawa's tackle. But we have a judiciary and a so called expert on Fox calling it illegal. A total embarrassment for the NRL.

 

[Dragon David]

Hi All again had to post on this Thread again. Dragon David noted he couldn’t see the practice front on tackle of Cameron Murray on Liam Martin I saw on nine.com. Well I saw it under a story entitled ‘hottest questions for origin 11 answered. Then associated footage of Cam Murray practice is still there under the heading starting ‘ice cold fittler’

I've found it rasaint and it clearly shows Murray hitting Martin with his shoulder first then the arms/hands.

Here it is about 1.50 minutes into the clip.

Hottest Origin II questions answered

The burning issues riding over Suncorp Stadium clash

wwos.nine.com.au

 

[Dragon David]

So we are building up on the evidence to show that Rava's hit on Whitehead was legit otherwise coach Brad Fittler's and Sam Thaiday's take on front on tackles should be questioned by the NRL and that type of technique banned all together. If not, why is Rava suspended? Bloody looks to me that they have it against us and something has to be done by our heads of chiefs.

 

[boardlumps62]

I've found it rasaint and it clearly shows Murray hitting Martin with his shoulder first then the arms/hands.

Here it is about 1.50 minutes into the clip.

Hottest Origin II questions answered

The burning issues riding over Suncorp Stadium clash

wwos.nine.com.au

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen. Lead with the shoulder drive and wrap your arms.

 

[TruSaint]

I've found it rasaint and it clearly shows Murray hitting Martin with his shoulder first then the arms/hands.

Here it is about 1.50 minutes into the clip.

Hottest Origin II questions answered

The burning issues riding over Suncorp Stadium clash

wwos.nine.com.au

Yeah saw it.

Torturing yourself mate. Rava isn't on the NRL's list of poster boys. When Ryan Pap was stretchered off due to an awkward/accidental hit, PVL stated we " cant have our stars leaving the field like this".

Ravas tackle was text book. Coaches train for hits like that.

 

[boardlumps62]

Oh we now have two video clips. We need to get this on Nine and Foxtel and Talk Back Radio. Do we have anyone amongst us to ensure the right people get it. Might as well send to NRL and Dragons. Cams video show lifting around the legs very similar to Rava. I want to see their face when they try to squirm their way around this evidence.
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