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Rebuilding Phase

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The only reason for a rebuilding phase in a salary capped sport is the coach / board not doing its job properly. Its a cop out term for when a team has stuffed up its spending. & We have a 5 year plan? Ridiculous.

The longer SK is in charge the bigger the hole being dug. Players DON'T want to play for him. We have to pay overs for anyone we do get, and being the NZ national coach has led to us getting which NZ players exactly? Ben Roberts? If he was as good as advertised NZ players would be jumping at the chance to play for him.

With one of our top 3 players retiring next year things aren't getting better.

His use of the interchange during games is appalling. Why do you want an 18th man as emergency you pelican? So you can be the 1st coach in history to keep 2 fresh players on a bench.

Aside from this his week to week team selections show he has absolutely no idea. Injuries aside there is no continuity. Our backline changes almost every week, our halves have changed repeatedly, and after a year and a half of blooding guys like Lasalo he's been ditched for Mat Ryan (rightly so). Sio played some fullback earlier in the year in Haynes absence , now we're back with the retiring Burt who is possibly the worst fullback in the history of the game.

Fans are turning off in droves. I was honestly so pumped for game days in the past. Even when we had crap teams. We played an exciting brand of football and often had a go. Now there's nothing to look forward to football wise. Can't even engage in weekly banter with mates, we're just a completely pathetic rabble.

As tough as it is , Kearney has to be held accountable. We are not rebuilding, we are hitting rock bottom. It will take us 5 years just to get out of it at this rate. There comes a time where the 9 from 41 record and other factors considered, its simply not professional to keep the dude in charge.

The 1st step in 'rebuilding' is getting rid of those ppl tearing the joint down. Bye, Bye Steve.
 

Eels Dude

Coach
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It's good to see you not posting about Burt for a change Ashley. I can't argue with anything you say in that and agree with just about all of it.

In regards to Roberts, I always found it surprising Kearney signed him since he's never once selected him for NZ in his 5 years of coaching the national side.
 

COACH STERLING

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Problem we have now is the clown in charge has signed so many sub par players we are stuck in a rut for the next 24 months. Don't matter who takes over the reins you can count on the next coach saying he won't have the players until 12 months down the track. Lasalo, Morgan, Blair, Sio, Tautai, Allgood, Roberts & Ryan all Reggie's at any other club. The rest are aging, on a downward spiral or heartless who never should have come to the club I.e. Poore.

Big broom is required with the first being those who allowed it. See ya Spagnolo, Duncan and the rest of the 3P ticket. I can't believe a bunch of nobody's were ever allowed to run our club. Farkin crooks!
 

TheParraboy

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It's good to see you not posting about Burt for a change Ashley. I can't argue with anything you say in that and agree with just about all of it.

In regards to Roberts, I always found it surprising Kearney signed him since he's never once selected him for NZ in his 5 years of coaching the national side.

instead of benji marshall?
 

Suitman

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Oh indeed, another thread.
FMD some people must get on the piss and drugs on Sunday nights.

Suity
 

SDM

First Grade
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The only reason for a rebuilding phase in a salary capped sport is the coach / board not doing its job properly. Its a cop out term for when a team has stuffed up its spending. & We have a 5 year plan? Ridiculous.

The longer SK is in charge the bigger the hole being dug. Players DON'T want to play for him. We have to pay overs for anyone we do get, and being the NZ national coach has led to us getting which NZ players exactly? Ben Roberts? If he was as good as advertised NZ players would be jumping at the chance to play for him.

With one of our top 3 players retiring next year things aren't getting better.

His use of the interchange during games is appalling. Why do you want an 18th man as emergency you pelican? So you can be the 1st coach in history to keep 2 fresh players on a bench.

Aside from this his week to week team selections show he has absolutely no idea. Injuries aside there is no continuity. Our backline changes almost every week, our halves have changed repeatedly, and after a year and a half of blooding guys like Lasalo he's been ditched for Mat Ryan (rightly so). Sio played some fullback earlier in the year in Haynes absence , now we're back with the retiring Burt who is possibly the worst fullback in the history of the game.

Fans are turning off in droves. I was honestly so pumped for game days in the past. Even when we had crap teams. We played an exciting brand of football and often had a go. Now there's nothing to look forward to football wise. Can't even engage in weekly banter with mates, we're just a completely pathetic rabble.

As tough as it is , Kearney has to be held accountable. We are not rebuilding, we are hitting rock bottom. It will take us 5 years just to get out of it at this rate. There comes a time where the 9 from 41 record and other factors considered, its simply not professional to keep the dude in charge.

The 1st step in 'rebuilding' is getting rid of those ppl tearing the joint down. Bye, Bye Steve.


It is in there Eels Dude, look closely.
 

Gronk

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Yes another damn thread about our terrible coach/squad/board.

Apart from Lukey being the worst fullback in the history of the game* he's not wrong.

* LOL since 1908 ? Really ? Nah there's been plenty worse than him. Paul Carriage ? :lol:
 

Poupou Escobar

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Kearney's put a much needed broom through the joint. Our salary cap is in good shape starting next year - no Hindy, Burt, Poore, Shack, Mortimer. Plenty of promising youngsters with a season or two of first grade under their belts. Our structure is finally looking good.
 

Gronk

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Kearney's put a much needed broom through the joint. Our salary cap is in good shape starting next year - no Hindy, Burt, Poore, Shack, Mortimer. Plenty of promising youngsters with a season or two of first grade under their belts. Our structure is finally looking good.

Yes he's a brilliant mind that's for sure. I bet that he'd be the only coach who was capable of deciding not to renew Poore, Shack, & Morts contracts.

Hindy and Burt were retiring notwithstanding the coach.
 

COACH STERLING

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Kearney's put a much needed broom through the joint. Our salary cap is in good shape starting next year - no Hindy, Burt, Poore, Shack, Mortimer. Plenty of promising youngsters with a season or two of first grade under their belts. Our structure is finally looking good.

What structure?
 
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Kearney's put a much needed broom through the joint. Our salary cap is in good shape starting next year - no Hindy, Burt, Poore, Shack, Mortimer. Plenty of promising youngsters with a season or two of first grade under their belts. Our structure is finally looking good.

whats the point of having plenty of salary cap money if we cant sign anyone with it? lewis is the last in a long line of players we have made offers to and they all went elsewhere allegedly bellamy was astonished by what we offered hinchcliffe but he still re-signed with the storm
 

Poupou Escobar

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Yes he's a brilliant mind that's for sure. I bet that he'd be the only coach who was capable of deciding not to renew Poore, Shack, & Morts contracts.

Some merkin signed them to those amounts in the first place. Is it not conceivable that some other merkin would retain them?

Hindy and Burt were retiring notwithstanding the coach.

Tapped on the shoulder, more likely.
 

Poupou Escobar

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whats the point of having plenty of salary cap money if we cant sign anyone with it? lewis is the last in a long line of players we have made offers to and they all went elsewhere allegedly bellamy was astonished by what we offered hinchcliffe but he still re-signed with the storm

We got Tonga and Sandow last year, and Hopoate and Lussick in the future. All quality players. Hinchcliffe would have been good but got cold feet - concerned about coaching stability perhaps?

We don't need Lewis. Someone said our max offer was $450k, which is fair. We're well placed for signings/re-signings next year.
 

Gronk

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Some merkin signed them to those amounts in the first place. Is it not conceivable that some other merkin would retain them?
Actually most good judges would have been happy with SOO prop Poore, angry ranga Shack and 2009 glamour boy Morts. They just didn't work out. It would be reasonable to state that all NRL coaches would send them on their way, based on their current contact $.

Tapped on the shoulder, more likely.
No Hindy is 34 in 2013 and Lukey 32. Don't agree. I don't think there is anyone on this Board who would think that it's best for the club for either of them to have another year. They knew it too.
 

bartman

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Kearney's put a much needed broom through the joint. Our salary cap is in good shape starting next year - no Hindy, Burt, Poore, Shack, Mortimer. Plenty of promising youngsters with a season or two of first grade under their belts. Our structure is finally looking good.
Who has Kearney actually gotten rid of with this "broom"? Robson (yeah, that worked out well for us)? Reddy (ditto)? Humble (ditto)? Shack? Anyone else at all...?

No way Kearney can be given credit for the natural ageing and retirement of Hindy, Burt, Maguire or Moimoi (if he isn't re-signed), nor be credited with the natural development of youngsters of a certin age - that's just blindness to the hype :crazy:. Instead Kearney's brought us Willie Tonga and Ben Roberts - so much for the much needed broom effect!
 

Wise Old Eel

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Who has Kearney actually gotten rid of with this "broom"? Robson (yeah, that worked out well for us)? Reddy (ditto)? Humble (ditto)? Shack? Anyone else at all...?

No way Kearney can be given credit for the natural ageing and retirement of Hindy, Burt, Maguire or Moimoi (if he isn't re-signed), nor be credited with the natural development of youngsters of a certin age - that's just blindness to the hype :crazy:. Instead Kearney's brought us Willie Tonga and Ben Roberts - so much for the much needed broom effect!

And Chris Sandow. 2 of the 3 ("major" signings) have been dropped at least once to Wenty. The other has been injury prone all season.

Look, the pro-Kearney crowd can talk up the [supposed] change in structure, culture and junior development all they like but the fact of the matter is coaches live and die by their ability to produce wins. It is that simple. Most of us were happy (or near enough) to give SK last year but this year should have seen some improvement. We should have been - at the very least - close to making the 8. That's progress. We all understand making [again, supposed] big changes take time but you need to be seen to be moving in the right direction. Backwards is not it.

As much as I don't want Kearney here as head coach, one thing we can credit him with is Luke Kelly. He looks the goods and it was Kearney's connection with the Storm who helped us get him. Having said that, this on it's own should in no way be enough of a reason for SK to keep his job.

Please board or whoever. Let's start moving forward. Get rid of this bloke. He has been afforded every resource and amount of support possible but just cannot get the job done.

WOE
 

Poupou Escobar

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you're just saying that because you know we won't get him he would be the perfect replacement for hindy

I agree he would be great for next year - much better than Tony Williams.

But we don't need him. And we especially don't need to spend big bucks on him. We already have loads of edge forwards signed for next year. Signing another one will take opportunity away from a youngster.

So while he'd be grat for next year he wouldn't be so great the year after or the year after that. Especially on the kind of money he'd be asking for.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Who has Kearney actually gotten rid of with this "broom"? Robson (yeah, that worked out well for us)? Reddy (ditto)? Humble (ditto)? Shack? Anyone else at all...?

No way Kearney can be given credit for the natural ageing and retirement of Hindy, Burt, Maguire or Moimoi (if he isn't re-signed), nor be credited with the natural development of youngsters of a certin age - that's just blindness to the hype :crazy:. Instead Kearney's brought us Willie Tonga and Ben Roberts - so much for the much needed broom effect!

You're only seeing half the picture you f**king simpleton. :crazy:

The players might have been moved on by any other coach, but Kearney and Nolan have refilled our squad with young blokes on the way up. The following players all have their best footy in front of them:

Mullaney
Sio
Blair
Morgan
Kelly
Sandow
Mannah
Allgood
Ryan
Paulo
Loko
Lasalo
O'Hanlon
Tonga
Barba
Hopoate
Lussick
Harrison

All signed and/or re-signed by the current staff. The oldest of those players (Mannah, Ryan, Paulo, Tonga and Harrison) are born in 1988. The youngest (Blair and Loko) are still eligible for Toyota Cup.
 

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