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Redcliffe put their hand up

King hit

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Something that does work in Redcliffe's favour is that they already have a stadium to use which will help their bid.
 

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I really hope any addition of teams to the Nrl goes through existing organisations like Redcliffe. It's a much more organic growth for the game rather than the likes of the bombers bid materialising from nothing with no history etc.... I wouldn't even make changes to the Redcliffe club for its license except at a push to something like "Redcliffe-moreton dolphins" to reflect that LGA as a whole.

Sunshine Coast I would treat as a seperate entity as it's just a waste of time doing catch all franchises which rarely work and require a strong regional identity over a large area e.g. NQ Cowboys to work
 

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I really hope any addition of teams to the Nrl goes through existing organisations like Redcliffe. It's a much more organic growth for the game rather than the likes of the bombers bid materialising from nothing with no history etc.... I wouldn't even make changes to the Redcliffe club for its license except at a push to something like "Redcliffe-moreton dolphins" to reflect that LGA as a whole.

Sunshine Coast I would treat as a seperate entity as it's just a waste of time doing catch all franchises which rarely work and require a strong regional identity over a large area e.g. NQ Cowboys to work

Wonder what the population is for Redcliffe- Moreton?
 

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Biggest issue for them will be stadium. Suncorp is about an hours drive or 90mins on public transport and I can’t see the nrl wanting another Brisbane team that isn’t playing out of Suncorp. The Redcliffe stadium would need $100million spending on it to get it anything like what the nrl wants clubs to be playi g in and Q’land council won’t pay for it.
 

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Biggest issue for them will be stadium. Suncorp is about an hours drive or 90mins on public transport and I can’t see the nrl wanting another Brisbane team that isn’t playing out of Suncorp. The Redcliffe stadium would need $100million spending on it to get it anything like what the nrl wants clubs to be playi g in and Q’land council won’t pay for it.

Agree. It will have to be playing out of Suncorp stadium. No doubt about that. Wonder what that general region of Northern Brisbane and the Moreton Bay area could be named? I think Dolphins is good but a locality name covering this northern Brisbane/Moreton Bay area needs to be locked in I'd say ?
 
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Something that does work in Redcliffe's favour is that they already have a stadium to use which will help their bid.

What’s the situation with the upgrade at dolphins stadium? There was talk of a stand on the eastern side as well?

It looks ok, could be some potential to play their smaller matches there, but I concur with others, Suncorp needs to be used as much as possible.
 

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What’s the situation with the upgrade at dolphins stadium? There was talk of a stand on the eastern side as well?

It looks ok, could be some potential to play their smaller matches there, but I concur with others, Suncorp needs to be used as much as possible.

I just looked it up and the capacity is 10,000 at Dolphins stadium and with an upgrade it could potentially seat between 15-20 thousand. A number of NRL clubs play games at stadiums with that kind of capacity so they can play games at Redcliffe and some at Lang Park.
 
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I just looked it up and the capacity is 10,000 at Dolphins stadium and with an upgrade it could potentially seat between 15-20 thousand. A number of NRL clubs play games at stadiums with that kind of capacity so they can play games at Redcliffe and some at Lang Park.

Problem I see is it’s limiting for a Brisbane side.

I think a second Brisbane team could easily be looking at an average of 20-25k, we should be rightly having higher goals for new teams.

If you used dolphins stadium I think it would be for 3 matches, with the others 9 being at Suncorp.
 

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What’s the situation with the upgrade at dolphins stadium? There was talk of a stand on the eastern side as well?

It looks ok, could be some potential to play their smaller matches there, but I concur with others, Suncorp needs to be used as much as possible.

It doesn’t look ok, it looks like a smaller poorer version of Campbelltown which is barely fit for nrl in the modern era. I’d doubt there would be 2000 seats undercover, nowhere near adequate for an nrl team that is going to be competing directly with the biggest club in the world.

Hopefully one of the criteria for any new club wanting to be in will be a min standard stadium to play out of.
 

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I also wonder what kind of impact Redcliffe coming into the NRL would have on ISC here in Queensland?. The Broncos entry back in 1988 killed off a lot of the local league scene and the Dolphins play a big part in the ISC and have a proud history in Brisbane/QLD competitions and hope a lot of that history isn't lost if Redcliffe did join.
 

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Anyone know how profitable the dolphins LC is?

I had a look online but could not find their annual report. Would be interesting reading, they would certainly have assets on the books with Shopping centre, Health centre, stadium etc.... What the LC makes in AR would be the key, if I had to guess I would think of the region of 25m-30m which is small fry compared to the bigger Sydney clubs.
 

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I also wonder what kind of impact Redcliffe coming into the NRL would have on ISC here in Queensland?. The Broncos entry back in 1988 killed off a lot of the local league scene and the Dolphins play a big part in the ISC and have a proud history in Brisbane/QLD competitions and hope a lot of that history isn't lost if Redcliffe did join.

That won't be an issue, could have the Moreton Bay Dolphins as NRL side and the Redcliffe Dolphins continue in the ISC with all current junior teams.
 
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It doesn’t look ok, it looks like a smaller poorer version of Campbelltown which is barely fit for nrl in the modern era. I’d doubt there would be 2000 seats undercover, nowhere near adequate for an nrl team that is going to be competing directly with the biggest club in the world.

Hopefully one of the criteria for any new club wanting to be in will be a min standard stadium to play out of.

You could play 2-3 of the smaller matches there though. Let’s not get too precious.
 
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Biggest issue for them will be stadium. Suncorp is about an hours drive or 90mins on public transport and I can’t see the nrl wanting another Brisbane team that isn’t playing out of Suncorp. The Redcliffe stadium would need $100million spending on it to get it anything like what the nrl wants clubs to be playi g in and Q’land council won’t pay for it.

According to the timetable it’s 1 hour by train from kippa ring station to Milton station. Not terrible.
 

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I also wonder what kind of impact Redcliffe coming into the NRL would have on ISC here in Queensland?. The Broncos entry back in 1988 killed off a lot of the local league scene and the Dolphins play a big part in the ISC and have a proud history in Brisbane/QLD competitions and hope a lot of that history isn't lost if Redcliffe did join.

I would imagine they maintain their pathways as they are now as that is one of there biggest assets.
 

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You could play 2-3 of the smaller matches there though. Let’s not get too precious.

No you couldn’t, the nrl wants to grow the game, not see precious expansion spots taken up with suburban mentality small time clubs like it is saddled with in Sydney.
 

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