Redcliffe put their hand up

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People from Sunshine Coast don’t associate themselves with being from Moreton Bay.
I like a more generic name such as SEQ dolphins.

If it's the nearest team to the Sunshine Coast and within driving distance it will draw fans.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I like Southern Hemisphere Dolphins. Massive catchment of around 800 million people.

Too divisive limiting it to just the southern hemisphere. Should be the Cosmos Dolphins so that little green men from other planets have a team to get behind.

 

[LeagueXIII]

Why does our game worry about this marketing bs...do you think Fremantle or port Adelaide carried on with this crap when they entered the afl.
Do only people who live in arsenal follow the gunners in epl.
Tradition is highly undervalued in our game as we sell out to an easy dollar.

 

[The Great Dane]

Why does our game worry about this marketing bs...do you think Fremantle or port Adelaide carried on with this crap when they entered the afl.
Do only people who live in arsenal follow the gunners in epl.
Tradition is highly undervalued in our game as we sell out to an easy dollar.

Both Fremantle and Port had blues over their brands... Basically every expansion club in any sport that I can think of had heated discussion about what their brands should be, and normally continue to have them constantly throughout their existence.

Your Arsenal example isn't a like for like comparison either.

A better comparison would be; if Arsenal were being promoted into a higher league to represent London would you expect the other EPL fans from London to support them?
That's what's being expected in the Dolphins' case.

Tradition, or more accurately history, carries baggage with it, and not all baggage is good baggage.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Why does our game worry about this marketing bs...do you think Fremantle or port Adelaide carried on with this crap when they entered the afl.
Do only people who live in arsenal follow the gunners in epl.
Tradition is highly undervalued in our game as we sell out to an easy dollar.

Redcliffe would be a fine name for the club. Everyone knows the Redcliffe Dolphins. If they don't go with that name then Moreton Bay Dolphins.

 

[Quicksilver]

Enter them.

The Redcliff Lions

Cliff Lyons to coach. Or to play 5/8.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Enter them.

The Redcliff Lions

Cliff Lyons to coach. Or to play 5/8.

Back in the 90s there was a bid in Logan to field a team in the NSWRL. They were going to call the team the Logan Lions. Maybe the QRL and NRL should create that team, then have a big laugh as AwFuL ruffle their feathers. The publicity it would provide our game would be priceless.

 

[greenBV4]

Back in the 90s there was a bid in Logan to field a team in the NSWRL. They were going to call the team the Logan Lions. Maybe the QRL and NRL should create that team, then have a big laugh as AwFuL ruffle their feathers. The publicity it would provide our game would be priceless.

I think you'll run into copyright issues there

I wouldn't have any faith in the NRL's legal team against the AFL's either, it'd likely be our feathers that get ruffled - and why waste the money

 

[LeagueXIII]

Both Fremantle and Port had blues over their brands... Basically every expansion club in any sport that I can think of had heated discussion about what their brands should be, and normally continue to have them constantly throughout their existence.

Your Arsenal example isn't a like for like comparison either.

A better comparison would be; if Arsenal were being promoted into a higher league to represent London would you expect the other EPL fans from London to support them?
That's what's being expected in the Dolphins' case.

Tradition, or more accurately history, carries baggage with it, and not all baggage is good baggage.

Maybe,however alot of it is good, far outways the negative. I don't see Port or Freo changing their names.

Alot of these names transcend the area they come from eg. Collingwood, St.George, South Sydney etc.

 

[LeagueXIII]

Both Fremantle and Port had blues over their brands... Basically every expansion club in any sport that I can think of had heated discussion about what their brands should be, and normally continue to have them constantly throughout their existence.

Any evidence of this. I live in Melbourne and don't recall anything like this at all. The only issue for Port was their colours and the fact they were the Magpies which clashed with Collingwood.

 

[T-Boon]

I think you'll run into copyright issues there

I wouldn't have any faith in the NRL's legal team against the AFL's either, it'd likely be our feathers that get ruffled - and why waste the money

Yeah it would end up like that Joe Exotic story.

 

[T-Boon]

St.George, South Sydney etc.

They aren't good examples of what we want a second Brisbane team to achieve.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I think you'll run into copyright issues there

I wouldn't have any faith in the NRL's legal team against the AFL's either, it'd likely be our feathers that get ruffled - and why waste the money

Brisbane Lions are a soccer club from Richlands. AwFuL had to pay them money to change their name to Queensland Lions. They now play in the A-League as Brisbane Roar.

It would be a PR nightmare for AwFuL if they were to kick up a stink about an RL team calling itself Logan Lions, especially when the concept was introduced before the Brisbane Lions Fumbleball Club was around. There's already an RL club in Logan called Slacks Creek Lions.

 

[greenBV4]

Brisbane Lions are a soccer club from Richlands. AwFuL had to pay them money to change their name to Queensland Lions. They now play in the A-League as Brisbane Roar.

It would be a PR nightmare for AwFuL if they were to kick up a stink about an RL team calling itself Logan Lions, especially when the concept was introduced before the Brisbane Lions Fumbleball Club was around. There's already an RL club in Logan called Slacks Creek Lions.

the difference is the NRL and AFL are competitors, those other clubs were minows. and PR nightmare? against the AFL? surely you know how the media treats the 2 different codes.

The NRL would be stupid to try introduce a team in Brisbane/SEQ called the Lions.

 

[The Great Dane]

Maybe,however alot of it is good, far outways the negative. I don't see Port or Freo changing their names.

Alot of these names transcend the area they come from eg. Collingwood, St.George, South Sydney etc.

The only people that care about the "good" are already fans, and in the Dolphins case there aren't enough of those fans to support an NRL club on their own. So if the club is going to be the success it should/could be then they have to attract new people in, and you don't do that by running out in a brand that huge portions of those potential new people have been conditioned to hate.

You are also conflating support that has been gained through mass exposure over generations with people supporting a club simply because it's a "historic" club.

The Dolphins haven't really had that multigenerational mass exposure, and what they did have of it would have largely been lost in the previous 30 years. But even if they did have a bunch of supporters in the countryside they don't really need a bunch of "supporters", they need steady customers, and the vast majority of a clubs' steady customers come from their immediate region.

Any evidence of this. I live in Melbourne and don't recall anything like this at all. The only issue for Port was their colours and the fact they were the Magpies which clashed with Collingwood.

Sorry but I'm not trawling 30 year old newspapers looking for articles.

But anyway, the Dockers were initially announced as the 'Freemantle Sharks' until people threw a massive stink over it, I'll let you figure out why, and Port, or rather their potential fan base, argued over way more than just the colours, they argued over the brand, they argued over the badge, they argued over whether or not the club should be called 'Port Adelaide' or if it should have a more inclusive name, they argued over whether or not there should be a magpie on the jersey, and probably a bunch of other stuff that I'm forgetting and/or didn't hear about.

 

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the difference is the NRL and AFL are competitors, those other clubs were minows. and PR nightmare? against the AFL? surely you know how the media treats the 2 different codes.

The NRL would be stupid to try introduce a team in Brisbane/SEQ called the Lions.

Queenslanders wouldn't sit back and allow AwFuL to boss us around. Any legal action from them would be viewed as an attack on our game and our traditions. It's a good way of getting people who are apathetic to fumbleball to hate it with a passion.

 

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Slacks Creek’s Lions celebrate new den

Slacks Creek Rugby League Club has added another trophy to the cabinet – a new clubhouse.

The $1.4 million clubhouse is a welcome addition for a club that has been a fixture on the Logan sporting landscape for more than 40 years.

The new facility was opened today in front of club members.

City of Logan Mayor Darren Power said it was fantastic to see the club rewarded for all its hard work and commitment in recent years.

“The club has been without a fully functioning clubhouse for a number of years and the committee has worked extremely hard to keep things going,” Cr Power said.

“They have improved the playing surface of the field and maintained the club’s membership numbers.

“I am pleased that the committee will now see the rewards of its hard work by having a new clubhouse. I know how much this means to the club.”

Slacks Creek Rugby League Club Secretary Timothy Burke thanked Logan City Council, the State Government, the NRL and QRL for funding the construction.

“We haven’t had a fully functioning clubhouse for a number of years so the new facility will make a huge difference to our rugby league community,” Mr Burke said.

“Slacks Creek Rugby League Club enjoys incredible community support with kids growing up to be involved at committee level and then their children playing in teams.”

The club has more than 187 registered players ranging from under 6 to under 17, including a number of girls’ teams.

Minister for Sport Mick de Brenni said the new clubhouse will make a massive difference to the club in recovering from the global pandemic.

“COVID-19 threw a spanner in the works for sporting clubs across Queensland but, just like their players do out on the field, the Slacks Creek Lions haven’t stopped giving it their all.

“As we continue to focus on restoring the economy and jobs from the impact of the pandemic, it’s also so important that local clubs like the Lions have a quality home to flesh out their game plan to get more kids involved in sport.”

QRL Managing Director, Robert Moore congratulated the Slacks Creek club on their new clubhouse and acknowledged the contribution made by the Logan City Council and the Queensland Government.

“This is a terrific outcome that reinforces the strength of the Queensland Government Footy Facilities Fund and the results this whole-of-game initiative continues to deliver to rugby league clubs in our local communities,” Mr Moore said.

“The Slacks Creek club has been a proud part of their local community for more than 40 years and this development sets the club up nicely for the future.”

The new clubhouse was jointly funded by Logan City Council ($1.1 million) Council and the Queensland Government Footy Facilities Fund ($300,000).

The Fund is a joint initiative of the National Rugby League, Queensland Rugby League and the State Government, designed to improve the quality, access and condition of community rugby league facilities across Queensland.

https://www.miragenews.com/slacks-creek-s-lions-celebrate-new-den/

 

[Pippen94]

The only people that care about the "good" are already fans, and in the Dolphins case there aren't enough of those fans to support an NRL club on their own. So if the club is going to be the success it should/could be then they have to attract new people in, and you don't do that by running out in a brand that huge portions of those potential new people have been conditioned to hate.

You are also conflating support that has been gained through mass exposure over generations with people supporting a club simply because it's a "historic" club.

The Dolphins haven't really had that multigenerational mass exposure, and what they did have of it would have largely been lost in the previous 30 years. But even if they did have a bunch of supporters in the countryside they don't really need a bunch of "supporters", they need steady customers, and the vast majority of a clubs' steady customers come from their immediate region.


Sorry but I'm not trawling 30 year old newspapers looking for articles.

But anyway, the Dockers were initially announced as the 'Freemantle Sharks' until people threw a massive stink over it, I'll let you figure out why, and Port, or rather their potential fan base, argued over way more than just the colours, they argued over the brand, they argued over the badge, they argued over whether or not the club should be called 'Port Adelaide' or if it should have a more inclusive name, they argued over whether or not there should be a magpie on the jersey, and probably a bunch of other stuff that I'm forgetting and/or didn't hear about.

Except all online polls & surveys show Redcliffe as preferred option among fans. Almost always least favorite are bombers your favorite - got to ppl what they want

 

[LeagueXIII]

The only people that care about the "good" are already fans, and in the Dolphins case there aren't enough of those fans to support an NRL club on their own. So if the club is going to be the success it should/could be then they have to attract new people in, and you don't do that by running out in a brand that huge portions of those potential new people have been conditioned to hate.

You are also conflating support that has been gained through mass exposure over generations with people supporting a club simply because it's a "historic" club.

The Dolphins haven't really had that multigenerational mass exposure, and what they did have of it would have largely been lost in the previous 30 years. But even if they did have a bunch of supporters in the countryside they don't really need a bunch of "supporters", they need steady customers, and the vast majority of a clubs' steady customers come from their immediate region.


Sorry but I'm not trawling 30 year old newspapers looking for articles.

But anyway, the Dockers were initially announced as the 'Freemantle Sharks' until people threw a massive stink over it, I'll let you figure out why, and Port, or rather their potential fan base, argued over way more than just the colours, they argued over the brand, they argued over the badge, they argued over whether or not the club should be called 'Port Adelaide' or if it should have a more inclusive name, they argued over whether or not there should be a magpie on the jersey, and probably a bunch of other stuff that I'm forgetting and/or didn't hear about.

I'm not against Redcliffe being called something else, what I am against is the marketing BS, for example I recall clubs with iconic names like Balmain and Canterbury becoming Sydney Bulldogs and Sydney Tigers to grow their product. It didn't and they eventually returned to their original identity that transcends all.

Once Redcliffe are in the major league they will get the support.

Of course you can't call them Freo Sharks as there were two clubs in the local comp, East Freo Sharks and Sth Freo Bulldogs. Port was about giving up their tradition to Collingwood. These weren't about the clubs actual name just their nickname.

You can use google to save time rather then trawl through old newspapers.

 

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I'm not against Redcliffe being called something else, what I am against is the marketing BS, for example I recall clubs with iconic names like Balmain and Canterbury becoming Sydney Bulldogs and Sydney Tigers to grow their product. It didn't and they eventually returned to their original identity that transcends all.

Once Redcliffe are in the major league they will get the support.

Of course you can't call them Freo Sharks as there were two clubs in the local comp, East Freo Sharks and Sth Freo Bulldogs. Port was about giving up their tradition to Collingwood. These weren't about the clubs actual name just their nickname.

You can use google to save time rather then trawl through old newspapers.

There's nothing wrong with Redcliffe staying with the name they've been known as for 60+ years. Brisbane's second team should not call itself Brisbane as it will make it too hard for outsiders to distinguish it from the Broncos.

Heartland areas such as Brisbane have too much tribalism, built up over 100+ years of fierce competiton between local clubs, to have a club that can unite everyone from all areas. Half the reason the Broncos never caught on like people thought they would is because they're based in Wests/Brothers territory. It's hard for knowledgeable and passionate fans from Souths, Easts, Norths, Redcliffe who don't identify with Wests/Brothers to get behind them. Some might be able to get over past grievances to support them, but many won't.